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Goody gumdrops. In other news I just discovered perlon straps and they are a thing of beauty.
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The wrist watch thread.
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Not often that I get jelly of someone's entire collection because there's always a pickle in there. But man, I aspire to having a collection like this towards the end of my life span. Even the Panerai was fabulous.
Cyberpunkd
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The current panerai is a fake brand created by Richemont. There are much better places to put your money.
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I crap my pants every time I see it in display because of the size of it. Longines has created a much better Panerai with the Majetek imho.
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Yerd
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This is my tiny collection.
The Luminox caught my eye when I noticed they have the white face with green band and a blue face with a blue band. I thought it would look great with white face/blue band. I still haven't bought a blue band for it. I bought a bunch of extra straps for these 3 watches from amazon. I want to get the metal band for the Luminox, but that single watch with the metal band was the first "fancy" watch I ever bought, back in the 90s I think, and it plays hell with my arm hairs, so I've been afraid of any watches with metal bands ever since.
The Luminox caught my eye when I noticed they have the white face with green band and a blue face with a blue band. I thought it would look great with white face/blue band. I still haven't bought a blue band for it. I bought a bunch of extra straps for these 3 watches from amazon. I want to get the metal band for the Luminox, but that single watch with the metal band was the first "fancy" watch I ever bought, back in the 90s I think, and it plays hell with my arm hairs, so I've been afraid of any watches with metal bands ever since.
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Random wrist shot of my 42mm "Cooper" vs Longines Big Eye 41mm
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I'll be forever kicking myself for not getting a Seiko Ripley when I had the chance 10 odd years ago. That thing is going for 2 grand now which is very sad. That would have been my third movie watch in my collection.
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Before I die, I want to own an OMEGA Seamaster. Moreso than the Speedmaster which is equally impressive. I don't know which color though. Maybe blue like the one Pierce Brosnan wore in Goldeneye. That one hits close to the nostalgia strings.
The old style blue seamaster like Brosnan wore (it was the quartz version in Goldeneye, but the mechanical for the rest of his run and the first Criag film) is the 2531.80. They can be had all day for ~$2K, maybe a bit more if its been recently serviced or in really good condition. VERY nice watch as it pre-dates the moder Omega era of fat cases. The current Seamaster 300m with the thicker waves and ceramic bezel is a MUCH better watch, scary accurate, but of course is much more expensive and feels more bulky on wrist.
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Date window on my Hamilton "Cooper" has stopoed flipping. It's time to get this serviced after 10 years.
I was gushing over a Tudor Black Bay Pro ref: M79470-0002.
That's going on my wish list.
I was gushing over a Tudor Black Bay Pro ref: M79470-0002.
That's going on my wish list.
That spring drive is smooooooooth.Some day I want to own a Grand Seiko Snowflake.
Forsete
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That is one of the things I want to experience... and that damned dial, so beautiful.
Could do without the power reserve indicator and these days I prefer a 6 o'clock date window, but yeah, it's on my list as well. Going from a quartz second hand jump to 24-28khz sweep was awesome, but then to behold the PERFECT second hand of spring drive....just sublime.
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I don't know the first thing about watches other than I like them and I want to start a collection. Any advice for beginners that won't break the budget < $1000
Hamilton or Seiko if we are talking about mechanicals.
Helps to know a little more. Dressy? Sporty? Diver? Daily wear or just every now and then?
For me, if its a daily wear watch, then accuracy is king, none of this "+/- 10-15 second a day" bullshit. That rules out a lot of the lower end seikos, quite frankly. But if you are wearing a smart watch during the week and the mechanical is just for weekends, then it doesn't really matter.
Personally, if you are "starting a collection", avoid the copies of better watches. It will just be $$$ lost towards getting the watch you really want. Find manufacturers that speak to you and do as much in house as possible, not just have a chinese clone made for them. I have a few Weiss watches, for example, because even though the movement is a bog standard swiss one (this is an advantage if he goes under, anyone can service it), he does a lot of the other case and dial stuff in-house. Plus if you email him you get him or his wife, not some minion.
You can score some really nice older models as many high end models have been pretty timeless since the lume moved to the modern stuff that holds up well. The superb Omega 2531.80 Brosnan Bond seamaster, for example, can be had all day long for ~2K from a reputable seller like exelonman and that's easily an end game watch. I have one from him. 2K may seem like a lot, bit once it is on wrist that smile never goes away. The mechanical game is pricey, just the way it is. Pretty soon you are throwing down 10k+ for rolex and thinking "30k for A. lange sohne, not too bad...."
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Yes mechanical, daily wear. I like dressy, but not flashy. I like leather strapsHamilton or Seiko if we are talking about mechanicals.
Helps to know a little more. Dressy? Sporty? Diver? Daily wear or just every now and then?
For me, if its a daily wear watch, then accuracy is king, none of this "+/- 10-15 second a day" bullshit. That rules out a lot of the lower end seikos, quite frankly. But if you are wearing a smart watch during the week and the mechanical is just for weekends, then it doesn't really matter.
Personally, if you are "starting a collection", avoid the copies of better watches. It will just be $$$ lost towards getting the watch you really want. Find manufacturers that speak to you and do as much in house as possible, not just have a chinese clone made for them. I have a few Weiss watches, for example, because even though the movement is a bog standard swiss one (this is an advantage if he goes under, anyone can service it), he does a lot of the other case and dial stuff in-house. Plus if you email him you get him or his wife, not some minion.
You can score some really nice older models as many high end models have been pretty timeless since the lume moved to the modern stuff that holds up well. The superb Omega 2531.80 Brosnan Bond seamaster, for example, can be had all day long for ~2K from a reputable seller like exelonman and that's easily an end game watch. I have one from him. 2K may seem like a lot, bit once it is on wrist that smile never goes away. The mechanical game is pricey, just the way it is. Pretty soon you are throwing down 10k+ for rolex and thinking "30k for A. lange sohne, not too bad...."
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Billbofet
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Look at Tissot Gentleman, Hamilton Khaki, Midos, Citizen Tsuyosa, or higher-end Seikos (not Grand Seiko - unless you want to drop 5K).
I have an Orient Bambino that is stunning on a strap and costs a fraction of any I listed above ($180-ish).
Have fun!
I love the Omega recommendation from Jason10mm. It could truly be a one-and-done if you wanted.
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I really liked the Tissot, Citizen Tsuyosa and the Orient Bambino. Thanks for the suggestions!
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More nifty brands than I had anticipated.
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This one caught me off guard today. It's pretty in the flesh (pun intended). I don't own a skeleton piece yet.
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Cyberpunkd
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Here you go: https://www.tissotwatches.com/fr-fr...E1vxWRxXwDLU_DAY-MOzEna_DzjDyUzxoC7IIQAvD_BwE
You don't need another watch. I have three and that's probably two too many, but two of them are PP so I will suffer for greatness. I cannot for the life of me understand people having a huge luxury watch collection where it's much better to put that amount into investments.
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Casio digital for $10 will keep infinitely better time than a $100,000 Patek Philippe. People don't wear mechanical watches because of timekeeping, they wear them because they are relics of a bygone era.
I feel there is pleasure in a 0.1 second deviation per day versus 15 seconds a day. Knowing the movement has been regulated and represents a high level of craftsmanship. I can go a month or more without having to adjust my better watches because they won't stray more than a minute off, which is about has much "inaccuracy" as I can tolerate.
So just accepting that mechanicals are not going to keep good time is not really valid in the higher end watch game. Cheap quartz can vary more than a good mechanical.
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Oh, its definitely something to consider as you are spending some "real" money on a watch, but, as Cyber pointed out, that Casio F-91w will be more accurate.
In my view, one has to view watches as tools (accuracy being a part of that), jewelry/accessory, heritage/history, and relics of a bygone era. Only you can figure out how to balance those for your tastes.
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Once you see that 28.8k bph second hand it's hard to go back to that "1 tic per second" hand on a quartz. Feels like watching the wall clock from school. The hi-beats are even better, then that smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth spring drive.....oh yeah!
I was hoping the built in solar quartz watches would switch to a continuous sweep second had since they were not as battery dependent anymore, but so far I've not seen any. I think smart watches have kinda killed off the entire low end watch market now, so I'm not sure there will be much innovation anymore. Someone came up with a mechanical movement that could be set via an electronic motor using an app, an attempt to bring "atomic clock" accuracy to mechanicals, but I forget the brand. Even the spring drive, with its quartz regulator and magnetic brake, gets some folks twisted because it uses electricity. My only real worry about the spring drive is getting it serviced, though now that rolex (and omega with the co-axial I think) are largely forcing independent watch repair out by restricting parts, I guess Grand Seiko isn't as much of an anomaly. Obviously the big boys like VC, ALS, or PP probably mandate factory maintenance as well, maybe one day I'll find out
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I don't disagree. Those high beats are hypnotic as is that Spring Drive!Once you see that 28.8k bph second hand it's hard to go back to that "1 tic per second" hand on a quartz. Feels like watching the wall clock from school. The hi-beats are even better, then that smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth spring drive.....oh yeah!
I was hoping the built in solar quartz watches would switch to a continuous sweep second had since they were not as battery dependent anymore, but so far I've not seen any. I think smart watches have kinda killed off the entire low end watch market now, so I'm not sure there will be much innovation anymore. Someone came up with a mechanical movement that could be set via an electronic motor using an app, an attempt to bring "atomic clock" accuracy to mechanicals, but I forget the brand. Even the spring drive, with its quartz regulator and magnetic brake, gets some folks twisted because it uses electricity. My only real worry about the spring drive is getting it serviced, though now that rolex (and omega with the co-axial I think) are largely forcing independent watch repair out by restricting parts, I guess Grand Seiko isn't as much of an anomaly. Obviously the big boys like VC, ALS, or PP probably mandate factory maintenance as well, maybe one day I'll find out
I think Casio did it on some of their G-Shock models.
I think if you had a VC, ALS, PP, AP, you would want to have some interaction with the brand with respect to servicing.
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You need a three piece collection. A daily driver, a dress watch, and a beater.
Cyberpunkd
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Rolex fits all three criteria, Tudor if you are on a budget. You can probably find a good Speedmaster for 2.5k.
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I like this as a daily driver. I can afford if I don't eat for a week and go donate plasma.
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Raven117
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These are quite sharp! Congratulations!
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As a beginner under 1k? Might be a bit much. A daily driver that can dress up is likely the best way to go. (Ie, steel sports watch).
Rolex does fit most bills, but there is a question you have to ask yourself in that "Do you want a Rolex?" The brand says something, whether you want it to or not.
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Cyberpunkd
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Absolutely no way these are mechanical for anything than insanely high price (I never heard about this grand).I like this as a daily driver. I can afford if I don't eat for a week and go donate plasma.
EDIT: Just checked, it's quartz for 2.5k€. Bro wtf, just get a used Speedmaster. I have absolutely no idea how the jumping day and week mechanism is supposed to work.
Again, please don't get stupid crap for this amount of money.
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Fair point, in such a case Speedmaster would be a really good choice.
I don't wear Rolex as a beater. To the pool/hot tub to impress the ladies is one thing, but if I KNOW I'm gonna be sticking my hand into a nest of iron pipes and concrete or working with power tools, I wear a cheap watch that can get scuffed or scratched, pop a strap pin and fall off, whatever, and I won't cry (much) about it. But if I drag a rolex across concrete.....no way. Despite their origins as tough and reliable tool watches, Rolex has loooooooong since past that by just due to the economics of fixing anything.
Tudor....maybe. I would wear a Pelagos or FXD to go diving, which I wouldn't do with ANY Submariner. A. you don't need that type of dive watch anymore, B. there are 'as good' options, and C. good luck getting it fixed/repaired in a reasonable amount of time or cost.
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Eh? Rolex is exactly as it always was, they are the very definition of a daily beater except you plan to keep your watch in a safe. As for scratches - the watch will scratch due to your body hair, nothing you can do about it.
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I don't understand, it's an iconic diving watch. You buy watch as an investment or to wear it?
Raven117
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Speedmasters are awesome. The 3861 likely can't be had for 2.5k (and those upgrades are in fact quite snazzy), but one may be able to find a 1861 for that. Maybe replace with the strap with something black and leather.
That's a classy watch right there.
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Thanks for the advice that's why I posted. In America I can get it for $500 still not worth?
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I don't want a Rolex. I'm damn nearly destitute. Im not trying to look like I have money. If I had money sure I'd buy one but owning one would make me feel like a fraud.
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