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The Xbox + Bethesda 2021 E3 Showcase & Discussion Thread
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Vae_Victis
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One good thing they did is limit the amount of CGI "coming eventually, maybe" type of announcements. Those were traditionally for me one of the worst points of Microsoft conferences.
I can't really say this conference did much to convince anyone to buy an Xbox per se, but at this point I assume their goal is more to convince people to subscribe to Game Pass, and in that regard they did well.
Still a huge question mark hanging over Halo Infinite as far as I'm concerned. "Parts of it" coming this year, but no exact date to announce (even though FH5 has a date for November, and even Starfield has a date for freaking November 2022). Of the single player they showed what was either an in-engine cutscene or a highly-railroaded interactive sequence, which in itself didn't look particularly inspired or inspiring. Multiplayer was a montage that looks to me pretty much indistinguishable from Halo on Xbox One (on a technical level).
I can't really say this conference did much to convince anyone to buy an Xbox per se, but at this point I assume their goal is more to convince people to subscribe to Game Pass, and in that regard they did well.
Still a huge question mark hanging over Halo Infinite as far as I'm concerned. "Parts of it" coming this year, but no exact date to announce (even though FH5 has a date for November, and even Starfield has a date for freaking November 2022). Of the single player they showed what was either an in-engine cutscene or a highly-railroaded interactive sequence, which in itself didn't look particularly inspired or inspiring. Multiplayer was a montage that looks to me pretty much indistinguishable from Halo on Xbox One (on a technical level).
CatLady
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it's not even 60fps on top of the line PCs. It's so far ahead of anything else, it's next, next gen
ZehDon
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Salty Popsicle
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The only thing that surprised me was the absence of Hellblade 2. I was thinking it would be an early 2022 game but now I'm thinking late 2022. Hopefully it's shown at GDC or Game Awards later this year.
FunkMiller
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Oh there was nothing in that show, and there never has been anything ever that would make me want to buy a series X. I have a good gaming laptop, what would be the point?
TheMan
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I only caught a few seconds of this and I seriously thought it was The Last Night rebranded
Lukaku's First Touch
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that game pass looking pretty hot
Pallas
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And you probably won’t of their mind is already dead set, can’t satisfy everyone.
Bartski
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MvCSpiderman
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Well was a good conference. They showed XSX graphics with MS flight and Horizon 5. 120fps Halo.
I find it hard to believe this isnt how its going to end up eventually. In movies/tv space Netflix was one if not the only at first and now look at how many difference subscription services there are..its rediculous. Probably be some sort of Amazon Prime "Game Pass" in the future, could also see some sort of "Steam Pass" tooNah, its only a matter of time before every somewhat sizeable studio starts their own fucking pass
Still I don't know the economy of GP so I don't know how it will work long-term, I like the idea as a consumer but I'm not so sure its great for games and studios, time will tell because Software as a service is here to stay..
Ogbert
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What's even worse on the PS Store is the default advert for each new game is invariably the premium edition at £80 plus.
Maybe we're just stung by exchange rates at the moment, but PS5 prices are off the charts in the UK. It's just too much money.
longdi
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Oh don't get me wrong. I too would love to see kojima new game, but this event is all about games with expected dates. Kojima first appeared on Phil shelf quite recently. Things are probably brewing behind. I mean we didn't get to see hellblade2 on UE5 either.
Quantum253
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Summerville had some great vibes. I loved the aesthetic and Jumpship did a great job to bring the Limbo feeling
LRKD
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The games were mostly weak with a few really cool show offs and a few really bad ones. The presentation style itself was really good... Except the Horizon part, they went full classic e3 cringe during that part, which is a shame cuz that game looked really good. Shoulda just let the game do the talkin.
I think overall it was pretty good though, despite the lack of games, the lack of cringe made up for it lol. I feel for Microsoft they are in pretty much the same position Sony was like 5 years ago. They have plenty of big titles to show off, but they are all too far away. Unlike Sony though it seems they are trying not to show of the same games 5 years straight. Like they only mentinoed PD and Fable by name instead of showing them off again.
I think overall it was pretty good though, despite the lack of games, the lack of cringe made up for it lol. I feel for Microsoft they are in pretty much the same position Sony was like 5 years ago. They have plenty of big titles to show off, but they are all too far away. Unlike Sony though it seems they are trying not to show of the same games 5 years straight. Like they only mentinoed PD and Fable by name instead of showing them off again.
Salty Popsicle
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Perfect Dark and Fable are late 2023 games in my estimation, so I didn't expect them. Avowed is supposedly an Elder Scroll type next-gen RPG so 2024 is more likely. Too far away to be shown this year unfortunately.
kyussman
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Nah,zero interest in PC gaming.
Excess
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Legit had never even considered the original game, but that sequel trailer hit me in the feels and I'm now gonna try it on Game Pass.
Mister Wolf
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Starfield not showing anything of substance was a dud too. So many great games are coming to Gamepass no one can front on it.
THE:MILKMAN
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Lots of games for Game Pass with a few interesting indi games (again) but not much killer on the AAA side for my taste. FH5 did look great and it was just about the only new game shown with actual (and impressive) gameplay graphics.
The Blur style CGI trailers are really starting to grate though and they clearly understand the issue as the Outer Worlds 2 trailer showed.
It is a fair point on value for money for sure and the Sony FP pricing (and more TP I'm seeing...) is just one of a number of reasons why I've upgraded my PC recently instead of getting console(s) and pray reasonably priced console level bang for buck GPUs come back soon. For various reasons both consoles have put me right off and after today's MS showing I doubt Sony are sweating and will probably now hold stuff back unless the pricing and other things start hit them in sales (we know it won't for the foreseeable).
Right now PC+GP+Steam seems the most logical way to go.
The Blur style CGI trailers are really starting to grate though and they clearly understand the issue as the Outer Worlds 2 trailer showed.
It is a fair point on value for money for sure and the Sony FP pricing (and more TP I'm seeing...) is just one of a number of reasons why I've upgraded my PC recently instead of getting console(s) and pray reasonably priced console level bang for buck GPUs come back soon. For various reasons both consoles have put me right off and after today's MS showing I doubt Sony are sweating and will probably now hold stuff back unless the pricing and other things start hit them in sales (we know it won't for the foreseeable).
Right now PC+GP+Steam seems the most logical way to go.
Halo is Back
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Red Fall looks super generic and boring. I predict the game will fail hard. What a waste of Arkane's talent.
I was disappointed to see no Hellblade 2 wtf MS?
I was disappointed to see no Hellblade 2 wtf MS?
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FrankieSab
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Series S a lead weight on development for Halo? Come on it's coming for Xbox One... S has the same CPU and SSD, not a Jaguar anemic CPU.
wipeout364
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Looked great, super happy with what’s coming. Amazing lineup between first party and third party. 2022 is going to be insane if all those titles hit their release dates. The crazy thing is how much variety they have in their line up.
Really Looking forward to Stalker, Starfield, Halo multiplayer, Forza Horizon 5, Outerworlds 2, Avowed. Also getting Back for Blood in gamepass is pretty amazing.
Really Looking forward to Stalker, Starfield, Halo multiplayer, Forza Horizon 5, Outerworlds 2, Avowed. Also getting Back for Blood in gamepass is pretty amazing.
Burythelight
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Yeah because sony already made good games on ps5 e don't shoot cgi trailer of 2025 games.
kyliethicc
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oldergamer
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I thought redfall looked interesting. Its just a teaser though, so you can only get so much from it.
Burythelight
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For poor xbox standard yes
eastcoastkody
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Arkane has made nothing but good games for a decade. So u kinda have to give them the benefit of the doubt. BioWare and DICE have dropped like 3 duds in a row and ppl still get hype for them.
Md Ray
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Yeah, it was like one of the first Series X games they showcased, albeit a CG trailer. But still... Expected to see at least something of it.
CrustyBritches
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4K Atomic Heart trailer
This type of shit is right up my alley. The RT demo on PC is really good looking with a nice mix of cool and creepy design.
This type of shit is right up my alley. The RT demo on PC is really good looking with a nice mix of cool and creepy design.
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BootsLoader
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Hellblade will be a great game I’m sure about that. I wanted so much to see that in their press but I guess next time. As for kojima I’m very very impressed that you are so sure about their collaboration. Let’s see how things will play out.Oh don't get me wrong. I too would love to see kojima new game, but this event is all about games with expected dates. Kojima first appeared on Phil shelf quite recently. Things are probably brewing behind. I mean we didn't get to see hellblade2 on UE5 either.
As for games with dates etc, the most impressive thing they showed was gamepass which is blowing and I admit it I’m a little jealous. May build a new PC or buy a Series S just for that as I want to buy a PS5 for main console gaming. Anyways, this time MS got their shit together. Now I’m waiting for Sony to blow us away (joking
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longdi
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Legit had never even considered the original game, but that sequel trailer hit me in the feels and I'm now gonna try it on Game Pass.
Just Gamepass it!
Never heard of this game either, but asobo studios was a hit with Flight simulator.
The sequel trailer looks good, love the medival settings
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Standouts for me were Forza Horizon 5, STALKER 2, that one JRPG and arguably Halo Infinite (tho I'm still trying to figure if the stuff with him leaping around in zero-G was gameplay or in-engine stuff. The multiplayer looks better than the July 2020 stuff tho, at least from what was shown).
Does this show "move the needle" for stalwart Sony & Nintendo people to jump into the ecosystem if they haven't already? Probably not. But those among them who were entertaining a Series system and/or GamePass I think will have a lot more motivation to do so after this show.
At least we can say that Xbox has some of the other best-looking games on the market tho, or will starting next month. FS 2020 and Forza Horizon 5 are visually stunning and compete with the best I've seen from PS5 so far, easily. I'm still curious how FS will translate to console, maybe the Top Gun expansion helps give it that "story"-esque narrative hook that can pull more people in, they definitely should have dogfights in there as some type of mode, maybe something with a storyline inspired by the new movie coming up.
And again, Forza Horizon 5..that looks just straight-up amazing. Best-looking racing game until Forza Motorsport drops, easily. Visual fidelity and density is spot-on, literally only a handful of other games doing that (namely, Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West and Demon's Souls remake).
I think if you're an Xbox fan who had realistic expectations, it was at least a 9/10 show. If you're more a PS/Nintendo person who was still considering an Xbox or jumping into GamePass at some point soon, it was likely an 8/10 - 8.5/10. If you're a PS/Nintendo person who needed more convincing to jump in, it was maybe closer to a 7/10 on the high end.
For me, it was a pretty solid 8/10 - 8.5/10 kind of show; some of the middle section dragged a bit IMO but the first 30 and last 30 minutes were very strong. I'd like for a bigger push for more fighting games, JRPGs and 3rd-person narrative-driven stuff (which on that front at least we know Plague's Tale 2 is coming and looks greats), and I honestly don't think Grounded should've been in there (Sea of Thieves I can understand because of the Pirates crossover, but what did Grounded bring?), but aside of that it was a pretty solid showing.
That said, I'm still surprised we haven't gotten any new Bright Memory Infinite gameplay, it's still coming this year, right? And no "massive" 3P GamePass announcements. I mean, are they going to get any big stuff aside from Outriders and MLB The Show this year? On a technicality Farcry 6 and Battlefield 2042 are there, but only if you have GPU and it's "only" for the first 10 hours each through EA's service. Granted I like a lot of the 3P GP stuff they showed but can we really say most any of it is going to grab headlines among the mainstream? Maybe 12 Minutes due to who's involved but a lot of the rest probably won't (but like I said they still look quite fun).
We also didn't get any acquisition announcements, or confirmation on if Kojima actually is doing anything with Xbox, etc. Between those rumors and the constant leaks and pessimistic "temper expectations" stuff, I think I'm officially done listening to ANY of these "insiders" and their leaks. It's one thing to do that with upcoming console hardware, but it actually does suck away some of the fun when it starts happening with the games themselves. The way those insiders were yabbering up to the event you'd of thought we'd gotten announcements of those but nope xD!
So I think I will say, while getting confirmation on things like FS 2020 and improvements to Halo Infinite (even if some were cryptic on the single-player side) was great, plus some of the other CG trailer reveals, and gameplay for Battlefield 2042, the gameplay for STALKER 2 and Forza Horizon 5 easily make up the lionshare of my enjoyment with the show. I hope they show more of Halo Infinite's single-player campaign at an upcoming event, still need more to ascertain some things but again, things look a lot better in most respects from what was seen in 2020.
And who knows, we might get a few more Xbox/GamePass-related announcements or reveals from the Square-Enix and Capcom shows later on. I just hope they're newer games.
Does this show "move the needle" for stalwart Sony & Nintendo people to jump into the ecosystem if they haven't already? Probably not. But those among them who were entertaining a Series system and/or GamePass I think will have a lot more motivation to do so after this show.
At least we can say that Xbox has some of the other best-looking games on the market tho, or will starting next month. FS 2020 and Forza Horizon 5 are visually stunning and compete with the best I've seen from PS5 so far, easily. I'm still curious how FS will translate to console, maybe the Top Gun expansion helps give it that "story"-esque narrative hook that can pull more people in, they definitely should have dogfights in there as some type of mode, maybe something with a storyline inspired by the new movie coming up.
And again, Forza Horizon 5..that looks just straight-up amazing. Best-looking racing game until Forza Motorsport drops, easily. Visual fidelity and density is spot-on, literally only a handful of other games doing that (namely, Rift Apart, Horizon Forbidden West and Demon's Souls remake).
I think if you're an Xbox fan who had realistic expectations, it was at least a 9/10 show. If you're more a PS/Nintendo person who was still considering an Xbox or jumping into GamePass at some point soon, it was likely an 8/10 - 8.5/10. If you're a PS/Nintendo person who needed more convincing to jump in, it was maybe closer to a 7/10 on the high end.
For me, it was a pretty solid 8/10 - 8.5/10 kind of show; some of the middle section dragged a bit IMO but the first 30 and last 30 minutes were very strong. I'd like for a bigger push for more fighting games, JRPGs and 3rd-person narrative-driven stuff (which on that front at least we know Plague's Tale 2 is coming and looks greats), and I honestly don't think Grounded should've been in there (Sea of Thieves I can understand because of the Pirates crossover, but what did Grounded bring?), but aside of that it was a pretty solid showing.
That said, I'm still surprised we haven't gotten any new Bright Memory Infinite gameplay, it's still coming this year, right? And no "massive" 3P GamePass announcements. I mean, are they going to get any big stuff aside from Outriders and MLB The Show this year? On a technicality Farcry 6 and Battlefield 2042 are there, but only if you have GPU and it's "only" for the first 10 hours each through EA's service. Granted I like a lot of the 3P GP stuff they showed but can we really say most any of it is going to grab headlines among the mainstream? Maybe 12 Minutes due to who's involved but a lot of the rest probably won't (but like I said they still look quite fun).
We also didn't get any acquisition announcements, or confirmation on if Kojima actually is doing anything with Xbox, etc. Between those rumors and the constant leaks and pessimistic "temper expectations" stuff, I think I'm officially done listening to ANY of these "insiders" and their leaks. It's one thing to do that with upcoming console hardware, but it actually does suck away some of the fun when it starts happening with the games themselves. The way those insiders were yabbering up to the event you'd of thought we'd gotten announcements of those but nope xD!
So I think I will say, while getting confirmation on things like FS 2020 and improvements to Halo Infinite (even if some were cryptic on the single-player side) was great, plus some of the other CG trailer reveals, and gameplay for Battlefield 2042, the gameplay for STALKER 2 and Forza Horizon 5 easily make up the lionshare of my enjoyment with the show. I hope they show more of Halo Infinite's single-player campaign at an upcoming event, still need more to ascertain some things but again, things look a lot better in most respects from what was seen in 2020.
And who knows, we might get a few more Xbox/GamePass-related announcements or reveals from the Square-Enix and Capcom shows later on. I just hope they're newer games
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Mr Moose
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Warablo
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Yeah, sick of these goofy art styles that everyone is trying to do. Just go with a grounded or realistic approach.
Dibils2k
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if someone has a gaming PC then nothing xbox ever shows will tempt them to buy xbox so its just PS only users they need to try and tempt
Mister Wolf
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Is anybody else wondering why Arkane spent all that money on a 5 minute CGI trailer and couldn't show a lick of actual gameplay.
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Salty Popsicle
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Hopefully they are saving it for GDC or Game Awards in December. How awesome would it be if they showed gameplay and then revealed "coming Spring 2022"
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Yeah but will it look like that in gameplay is my question. I gotta watch everything in high-quality later; general rule is to take the MP gameplay an multiply the visuals by like 1.5x and that's what the single-player gameplay will look like
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