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[Frolow]

I can't wait for the AMA tomorrow.

 

[Camp Lo]

My main use of Twitch is speedrunners, well that's fucked now. VoD lenght caps, complete censorship if certain music is played so their commentary gets wrecked in the process. I hope this blows up real good.

All the Games Done Quick are gonna be garbage now on Twitch.

 

[Talyn]

Remember the good old days when Google's motto was "don't be evil"and everyone loved them? Yeah, those days aren't coming back...

 

[Nuklear]

RIP Twitch. To hitbox we go!

 

[Nokterian]

Awesome. This implementation really is amazing in its stupidity.

Edit: Bahaha, DOTA 2 The Invitational VODs also hit http://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti/b/549093223

Oh..my...god.

 

[WillyFive]

Hitbox already has more customers that it can handle.

 

[Xater]

Looks like Hitbox is already seeing more people visit them they just tweeted this:

Welcome newcomers to #hitboxlive! Don't forget: Every partner on hitbox still gets a sub button!

https://twitter.com/hitboxlive/status/497143563717971969

 

[FStop7]

I did a 24-hour Last of Us stream last week for charity and its already happened to me. Blocks of the stream have been muted: http://www.twitch.tv/johnny___cullen/b/553426776

Also, Hitbox is getting slaaaaaaamed (I know, I'm trying to make an account).

I wonder what this means for the future of streaming support in the Xbox One and PS4. Will they add Hitbox support? Will they leave it as is? Drop it, entirely, for fear of putting their customers into a minefield of copyright infringements that they themselves could somehow be held accountable for?

 

[MattPeters]

I can't wait for the AMA tomorrow.

It's going to be a trainwreck, cant wait!

 

[Mesoian]

Remember the good old days when Google's motto was "don't be evil"and everyone loved them? Yeah, those days aren't coming back...

To be fair, those days have been long gone for a while.

Hell, google engaged in an illegal search last week. Granted it was for the right reasons but you can't just do that.

 

[Tomat]

Hitbox doesn't have kappa though.

 

[hypotc]

Pretty sure he just went offline and his chat assumed that. I don't even know anymore.

Ah, he wrote that he didnt feel like streaming on twitter.
I checked his channel and the chat was raging and saying he got banned. When do I learn never to trust twitch chat?

Wonder if Coamo will move to another streaming service.

 

[BY2K]

Just imagine that the guy in purple is Twitch.

 

[ExpressGalaxy]

Hitbox doesn't have kappa though.

So it really is the superior service.

 

[inm8num2]

The exodus from Twitch to Hitbox has begun.

 

[Moofers]

Google circa 2008: "Don't be evil"

Google circa 2014: "Fuck you, I'm eating"

 

[U2NUMB]

Looks like Hitbox is already seeing more people visit them they just tweeted this:



https://twitter.com/hitboxlive/status/497143563717971969

But really.. how long till they fold to the same copyright BS? I hope they hold out but they will get huge.. and google will just buy them out and do the same thing.

sad day for sure

 

[Kouriozan]

Hitbox already has more customers that it can handle.

This is amazing, really.
If the threat is real, Twitch will do some 180.

 

[SparkleMotion]

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

 

[Mesoian]

So it really is the superior service.

Seriously, imagine if a live stream chat could be effectively culled...even MANAGED!?!? the very thought...

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

It's been the number 1 complaint about twitch for months. Shit just disappearing before anything can be done to the footage serverside, it's garbage and it's been broken since FOREVER.

 

[HylianScribe]

The party is over. The dream is dead. It was fun while it lasted.

Audio Recognition will only be run against audio in VODs. We are not scanning live broadcasts and there is no automated takedown of live content.

The dream is still alive! For now...

 

[Smooth Operator]

This is amazing, really.
If the threat is real, Twitch will do some 180.

Lol

 

[RurouniZel]

The exodus from Twitch to Hitbox has begun.

Makes me wonder what Twitch honestly expected the reaction to this change would be.

 

[Ferrio]

But really.. how long till they fold to the same copyright BS? I hope they hold out but they will get huge.. and google will just buy them out and do the same thing.

sad day for sure

Well that's the story of the internet. Of course it'll eventually happen but hey then another replacement will come along.

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

Again, it's foolish to think this will stop at VODs.

 

[lerontonge]

2K14?

 

[Kouriozan]

Lol

Yeah, I know

 

[Foffy]

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

Vods are a big deal for marathons and eSports events...

 

[Fantasy Final]

Google started following me on Twitter after I talked about Twitch's archives.
https://twitter.com/thesabin/followers

I seriously hate them for good now. Their world domination on everything is starting to bother me now...

 

[Leafhopper]

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

I can't realistically be awake during all of AGDQ or SGDQ. I could wait for those to go up on youtube but that takes months, for the stuff I missed.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

The International being hit is proof that this is a badly thought out route by Twitch. However, their hands are tied thanks to the wonders of international copyright law...

They now cannot remove the ContentID system, as that represents willfull disobedience to the music industry's copyrights. They can (and hopefully witll) refine it to not be total garbage.

 

[WillyFive]

But really.. how long till they fold to the same copyright BS? I hope they hold out but they will get huge.. and google will just buy them out and do the same thing.

sad day for sure

The internet migrates. Just as people went from Myspace to Facebook to Instagram to something else in the future; people will move from Justin.tv to Twitch to (what may be) Hitbox to something else in the future. It's a good thing, it keeps competition and the quality of service up.

 

[gai_shain]

So a streamer got his portal pb muted and another one didnt get his muted.
The guy that didnt get his muted is a twitch partner hmmmmmm

 

[Cse]

If anyone thinks this system will remain limited to VODs, well, you're dreaming.

VODs are honestly just the start. They're probably using VODs to test the system.

Expect this to apply to livestreams within the next year.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Oh jeez, seeing how strong the muting has hit..

 

[Setsuna]

I knew there was going to be changes, but i didnt expect CHANGES

 

[Persona7]

So a streamer got his portal pb muted and another one didnt get his muted.
The guy that didnt get his muted is a twitch partner hmmmmmm

I am pretty sure partnered streams are already getting muted.

 

[KarmaCow]

Twitch is the fourth highest driver of internet traffic in the US behind Netflix, Google and Apple respectively. It was only a matter of time before the MPAA knocked on their doors. That being said, this implementation is pretty godawful.

But that's in terms of bandwidth, what about concurrent and daily users? It's inherently going to be a massive source of data being piped across the world because it's people streaming high quality video for hours on end.

 

[Xater]

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

Well it's a worldwide platform. Sometimes streams happen where it's just impossible for me to watch it live. A VOD is immediately accessible which was always a great way to for example watch a FGC tourney in the morning.

 

[Nanashrew]

I never realized so many people cared about the archived streamed.

Can't always catch a stream. Some I follow live on the other side of the world at a time I may or may not be up.

 

[Wario64]

Google started following me on Twitter after I talked about Twitch's archives.
https://twitter.com/thesabin/followers

I seriously hate them for good now. Their world domination on everything is starting to bother me now...

Cool. I'm sure they're not official Google accounts.

 

[dmr87]

I hope Twitch feels good about themselves now.

 

[Leafhopper]

So a streamer got his portal pb muted and another one didnt get his muted.
The guy that didnt get his muted is a twitch partner hmmmmmm

The International - the Dota 2 championships, is getting part of its videos muted from this year dude.

 

[U2NUMB]

The internet migrates. Just as people went from Myspace to Facebook to Instagram to something else in the future; people will move from Justin.tv to Twitch to (what may be) Hitbox to something else in the future. It's a good thing, it keeps competition and the quality of service up.

I realize that but it must be very tough to build up a load of followers only to have to start over. We all knew it was gonna end.. just hitting me hard as I was not expecting it to hit this hard and so sudden. Silly me..

 

[kiunchbb]

Google spent billions to fuck up things we like. Dam the evil corporations!

 

[gai_shain]

I am pretty sure partnered streams are already getting muted.

I know that, im just gonna wait and see if the partnered guy also gets his stuff muted

the International is getting part of its videos muted from this year dude.

haha what? This is just stupid

 

[Foffy]

I am pretty sure partnered streams are already getting muted.

They are.

 

[inm8num2]

Makes me wonder what Twitch honestly expected the reaction to this change would be.

Perhaps they underestimated people having a viable alternative or otherwise figured that users wouldn't want to change up their streaming/viewing habits.

 

[Sentenza]

I'm not even mad at Google. Well, not exclusively.
I'm mad at those companies who own the rights for this music and think that that endorsing/forcing censoring of people who use their copyrighted songs as a background in their stream will surely do great for their business.

 

[LiK]

Looks like Hitbox is already seeing more people visit them they just tweeted this:



https://twitter.com/hitboxlive/status/497143563717971969

this made me lol

 

[Haunted]

Oh man, even twitch's foremost sucessful streaming personality poster child who's in all sorts of promotional programs and doesn't usually speak up against twitch is being negative on twitter about this (MANvsGAME).

You know your policy change was bad if your #1 cheerleader shits on you in front of his 36k Twitter followers.