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UFC 257: Poirier vs. McGregor 2
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INC
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He went down pretty easy as well, but thats another reason why mma is so great to watch, anyone can be knocked out, at any time.
Was disappointed overall, thought conor would go further than that, but props to dustin, dudes a great brawler, really digs his feet in, and bites down when swinging.
This makes conor an under dog going into his next fight, I saw that dustin part 3 is already on the cards, before the fight even started
DeepBreath87
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These guys almost always loss there edge once they make it to the top. It’s kind of human nature. I think Khabid is the exception because he’s so disciplined in his faith. Guys like McGregor get too many distractions.
SidViscous
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I voted for Poirier to win, but expected a much shitter McGregor and sharper Poirier to turn up.
McGregor was the better fighter and landed some great shots in that first round, guy has homing missiles built into his gloves and found his chin a couple of times, could have ended in the first round if the dices rolled slightly differently. But McGregor got sloppy, made no effort to check those kicks, and gave zero fucks about staying in the centre of the octagon. If you can't move and find yourself against the fence, Poirier is going to wail on you like a fat kid who got his candy bar stolen.
Humble McGregor is the worst too, he needs to bring back the swagger and shit-talk if he wants to keep raking in 34 million a fight.
McGregor was the better fighter and landed some great shots in that first round, guy has homing missiles built into his gloves and found his chin a couple of times, could have ended in the first round if the dices rolled slightly differently. But McGregor got sloppy, made no effort to check those kicks, and gave zero fucks about staying in the centre of the octagon. If you can't move and find yourself against the fence, Poirier is going to wail on you like a fat kid who got his candy bar stolen.
Humble McGregor is the worst too, he needs to bring back the swagger and shit-talk if he wants to keep raking in 34 million a fight.
12Goblins
Lil’ Gobbie
agree with your analysis of the fight. happy for dustin though, couldn't have happened to a better guy
VGEsoterica
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Watching McGregor get knocked out was a fun time
Arkam
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But he won round 1 and was winning the fight. His undoing was not giving proper care to the low leg kicks early on. He thought he could weather them and get his KO.... he was wrong. That was a strategic mistake, not a failure of ability. I havent seen the stats yet, they out? In real time felt like Connor was landing some hard blows in the first. When watching I thought Poirier wasnt doing well until about 30s before the end.
Connor is still competitive with every top 10 lightweight. Hardly "done" unless the only game in town is to be the undisputed best. Id have him fight Furgeson next to prove whether he can hang with the top. Both lost last outing and both beat Cowboy in 2019. Assuming Connor wins, then you have him do a "pay day" title eliminator against Chandler (assuming he wins his next fight against Gaethje/Olivera, and that Khabib is done) With this fight UFC wins no matter who wins teh fight. Its redemption of a banner carrier (Connor) or the official arrival of the potential next one.
Unknown Quantity
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Dustin did well, Chandler too. Tsarukyan looks good at lightweight, he impressed at his loss to Islam a while ago & won 3 in a row now. Rountree was robbed. Herb stopping, restarting the Ribas fight. Split decision where 1 fighter looks like he got mugged in the early prelims. The shit show is entertaining soooo.
Lightweight looks great with Oliveira & Tony in the mix.
@artemlobov was all over the GAF, soz
ArtemisClydeFrog
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Lightweight looks great with Oliveira & Tony in the mix.
@artemlobov was all over the GAF, soz
ArtemisClydeFrog
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manfestival
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I know everyone is talking about Conor as expected but let's be real. Michael Chandler was the true biggest story of the night.
manfestival
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Dustin did well, Chandler too. Tsarukyan looks good at lightweight, he impressed at his loss to Islam a while ago & won 3 in a row now. Rountree was robbed. Herb stopping, restarting the Ribas fight. Split decision where 1 fighter looks like he got mugged in the early prelims. The shit show is entertaining soooo.
Lightweight looks great with Oliveira & Tony in the mix.
@artemlobov was all over the GAF, soz
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I love Theo. I do listen to the King and the Sting every now and then. I would be in for Gaethje vs Chandler ALL DAY. Talk about a scrap.
Also side note: I am sad that my booboo Amanda lost her fight but there is definitely potential there for growth. Her opponent was much stronger than her. Even from the down position she was getting overpowered at times in the 1st despite Amanda controlling the whole round. Come back stronger Amandaaaa
ArtemisClydeFrog
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Theo is funny as fuck, love that dude.
The Hamburglar
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So he was washed up after all
midasmulligan
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If I didn’t know better, I’d of guessed that Connor threw that fight....
Yoboman
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You can tell Dustin used to throw down in the streets when he was young. He constantly goes to fix his shorts out of habit even though you don't need to with MMA shorts
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Dustin used the same strategy as Connor did against Diaz 2, he took his legs away from him. As soon as I saw connor not checking those kicks I knew it was coming to an end. Dustin took his legs out from under him and he had no where to go but take those shots because he couldnt move. Anyone who fights Connor should do this because the guy doesnt know how to defend against it
Yoboman
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Win or lose Conor just needs to be active if he ever wants to get back to the summit
He said the current him would beat the Alvarez version of him. I dont believe that for a second
If he doesn't realise his time off has sent him way backwards, to a lower top 10 fighter, then he should give it away
And if he can't be fighting 3 to 4 times a year and recognise a title shot may be a few years away with consistent winning then he should also give it away
He said the current him would beat the Alvarez version of him. I dont believe that for a second
If he doesn't realise his time off has sent him way backwards, to a lower top 10 fighter, then he should give it away
And if he can't be fighting 3 to 4 times a year and recognise a title shot may be a few years away with consistent winning then he should also give it away
regawdless
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Conor was so flat footed, lacked a lot of dynamic. His usual in and out, his baits, all were lacking.
Also, good game plan by Dustin.
Also, good game plan by Dustin.
Ornlu
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He definitely cut a good promo; looking forward to Wrestlemania.
Amen. Watching someone just get chopped over and over is always a teeth-clencher.
Fortunate_Son
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I am glad Dustin won. McGregor hasn't been fighting like his usual self and he just hasn't been interesting.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Conor has a problem in that everyone knows his tricks by now. He's very skilled, and typically gets reads on his opponent faster than they get on him, but without the psychological component of his world-class trash talking he's just another good fighter.
That he's so classy in defeat just shows his pre-fight shenanigans as a ploy to get inside his opponents head and make them fight his fight. To be honest I think this realization is what killed Aldo, he realized after the fact that Conor played him; using his pride and emotion to rush in and get sloppy.
Bottom line is that McGregor no longer has an aura of invincibility and everyone who faces him knows and expects his wind-up tactics. He's still a prospective champion, and doubtless a good box-office draw, but he's going to need to start picking his opponents more carefully.
That he's so classy in defeat just shows his pre-fight shenanigans as a ploy to get inside his opponents head and make them fight his fight. To be honest I think this realization is what killed Aldo, he realized after the fact that Conor played him; using his pride and emotion to rush in and get sloppy.
Bottom line is that McGregor no longer has an aura of invincibility and everyone who faces him knows and expects his wind-up tactics. He's still a prospective champion, and doubtless a good box-office draw, but he's going to need to start picking his opponents more carefully.
manfestival
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Conor lost that Aura ages ago. He wasn't even undefeated going into his climb. Also the UFC completely ruined Aldo.
Maxwell Jacob Friedman
leads to fear. Fear leads to xbox.
Nah he just needs a better game plan, if he started checking hose kicks his leg wouldn't have been tore up as much as it was to the point where it was an easy way for Dustin to finish him off. Connor wanted the flash KO victory but hopefully this makes him realize he needs to use his entire skill set to get W's, much like against cowboy, he tried a few quick left jabs and then went for the head kick that finished him off,
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
I dunno, he's a striker so losing by submission in his previous defeats never really impacted his aura in the same way as this last one. Admittedly the way Dustin ate up his leg with the calf-kicks did the heavy lifting, but its still a TKO. Big diff from how he lost to Khabib and Nate.
For my money the one time he really impressed me was his utter dismantling of Eddie Alvarez... most of his bigger victories have been more flash than substance imho. Its kinda what I was getting at with Aldo, I mean coming off that how could Jose not feel like the architect of his own undoing? He got drawn into Conor's circus due to his pride and machismo being hurt in the lead-up and got himself tagged and KO'd straight off the bat.
I'm a big believer in Dom Cruz's perspective that the truest victory comes from dominating your opponent completely for the duration. Its not as glamorous as a flashy KO, but in terms of really seeing the fruits of your training and gameplan pay off... its not even close.
manfestival
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I disagree completely on the takes making it seem like submissions are some sort of lesser thing compared to a KO/TKO. Especially since there are rarely if ever "fluke" submissions. Submission is actually more humiliating in the grand scheme of things. Not just that but Khabib dominated Conor for the most part(rounds when Khabib was resting more but the crowd got excited when he landed a few shots on Khabib). Which is far more telling than what we just saw with Dustin. Not saying Dustin had some flash KO or TKO. He methodically worked him. Khabib wanted to destroy and humiliate him... and accomplished just that. In a sense, Khabib did to Conor what Conor did to Aldo(minus being screwed over by the UFC). As far as the fight itself, he was his own victim as was Askren to Masvidal.
Though I do feel your last line almost contradicts the first considering Khabib did dominate Conor. "Let's talk now"
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StreetsofBeige
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When Conor was trash talking he was at the top of his game. When he started losing (Nick Diaz), his mouth zipped it half the time. Now he barely says anything and his results are hit and miss. And there's no way I'm going to give him props for beating an over the hill Cerrone who is 4-8 the past 4 years. Seems the UFC just uses Cerrone's name as a punching bag.
Seems like a confidence issue. He might be one of those guys who needs to be amped up trashing talking or else his performance sinks. Needs the attention.
Seems like a confidence issue. He might be one of those guys who needs to be amped up trashing talking or else his performance sinks. Needs the attention.
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GymWolf
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
Lets be honest, what Khabib did to Gaethje was actually far worse than what he did to Conor! I mean, he went to his back for the sub!
The point I was making is that Dustin took Conor on at his own game and knocked him out. That's got to feel worse than being submitted for a fighter who's preferred gameplan leans heavily on out-striking and controlling opponents on their feet. There's a big diff in my opinion between control on the ground and on the feet. Stood up, everyone has a puncher's chance, on the ground its about survival and recovering position/your feet unless you are a submission specialist. Its a different sort of dominance.
Note: I'm not a fan of Conor anymore, his schtick got old for me before his out-of-ring behaviour tilted decisively towards the cuntish. That being said, I do respect his skill as a fighter and his acumen for working the business.
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