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Vegan community thread - Give Peas a Chance
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shinobi602
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Nobody's had the Morning Star burgers :-/ ?
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No such thing really as a "health" vegan. Either you abstain from all animal products (clothes, shoes, cosmetics as well as food) or you're not a vegan.
As for restaurants, phone and email ahead of time.
Happy Cow is a good site too with reviews, maps and a smartphone app.
No such thing really as a "health" vegan. Either you abstain from all animal products (clothes, shoes, cosmetics as well as food) or you're not a vegan.
As for restaurants, phone and email ahead of time.
Happy Cow is a good site too with reviews, maps and a smartphone app.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
I don't think they're vegan, so there might not be much experience with them in here. They have cheese of some sort to keep it all together. They're pretty good vegetarian burgers, though! About the same taste as most others. I believe Boca's plain burgers and "chicken" patties are vegan.
Also for an easy way to determine what's vegan, look at the bold "CONTAINS: MILK, EGG" etc. near the bottom of the ingredients. It's meant for allergy sufferers, but it helps to quickly figure out what's vegan, too.
Sure. while the OP focuses on diet, all vegan topics are welcome as far as I'm concerned.
I used to have these all the time when I lived at home. Good stuff.
twilitesparklemotion
Member
Unless something new's come out in a few months, Morningstar burgers aren't vegan. Boca are, but they're shit (chicken patties are okay).
Asking the is probably the quickest way ("is this vegan?/do you have any vegan dishes?/what does this dish contain?"), or if you know a forum that might now about it (say, a local vegan community forum), you could try asking them if they have any knowledge about it if you don't dare asking the restaurant cooks/waitresses yourself. Sometimes they can even make some dish vegan-compatible even if normally it includes, say, cow milk if you just ask them to
shinobi602
Member
Ah ok, my mistake. I'm not vegan/vegetarian but my wife got some of them today and I thought I'd ask here for some opinions. Thanks 
Awesome.
I'm not vegan myself, (enormously supportive of the cause though) but I try to do the best I can in other aspects of a cruelty free lifestyle and any further tips/information would be fantastic for anyone else in a related position.
I know several people who have food intolerances, be it dairy or other animal products, and as a result went "fuck it" and decided to go vegan. I think the distinction is a minor semantic one.
You Are Viewtiful
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Thinking of going vegetarian for health reasons (I've read people feel more energetic, especially in the brain department). Subbed. Great OP btw
And a needlessly confusing one. There aren't different categories of vegans, you're either one or you're not and you can't divorce ethics from veganism. It's not just a diet.
With my job we went to visit a local honey producer in Ohio and it was really interesting. He definitely had a lot to say about the issue and a big problem is the pesticides used on crops. I'm am not an expert, and don't debate the issue, but I personally have no issue with honey especially seeing how this business was run.
It's funny. Something like 5 years ago I was one of those people who'd be all "dat kebab-salami-ham pizza omnomnomnomnomnom :3 :3 :3" (not bacon, though, always hated bacon, tastes like shit, vegan bacon is so much better) and could never even imagine becoming a vegetarian let alone a vegan. But here we are, me thinking about trying to go completely without any animal products. I'm still a vegetarian, though probably something like 80-90% of the foods I buy & cook are completely vegan (and most of the rest have maybe 2-3dl of cow milk, eggs I mostly only use when I make my delicious, delicious chocolate cake, though the next time I do it I'll try it without eggs). At this point I'm almost there, but I'm not sure if I want to become the kind of strict vegan who'll complain from even the pettiest things involving meat like if someone brings meat-including food to my house. I might do it so that I won't buy or cook any animal product including food myself, but if someone offers me food that has been made with milk or has a bit of cheese in it, I'll allow myself to eat it. So a vegan in my everyday life, but can stretch the rules to dip into vegetarianism for sanity's sake in more or less special circumstances.
Aeriscloud
Banned
Why would I ever give peas a chance?
freenudemacusers
Member
cool thread. I've thought about going vegan (diet-wise) for a bit, mostly cuz I think it's good to reset the diet from time to time and try new things.
I don't want to be the vegan police but you're not a vegan if you do these things. It's not something you can just drop when you find it a bit inconvenient or fancy a bit of cheese.
Do what you can by all means but I think you've got the wrong end of the stick as regards veganism.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Famassu, do you know someone IRL who does that thing about complaining about meat in the house? I feel you're creating a very false impression for yourself of what a vegan is.
OverBlood 3
Banned
I see no problem with it myself, every little helps. Christ it's nice to hear when my meat eating friends eat quorn once in a blue moon. You can't really call yourself a vegan if you do that though just like 'vegetarians' who eat fish...oh and the ones that eat chicken are the best haha oh dear.
Basically the same for me. I used to be the definition of omnivore. I'd eat anything - I've eaten ostrich, insects and snails (all of which were delicious BTW.) Hell, I even had Foie Gras once...
Now I don't even feel the need to cheat on veganism anymore. And it's been so gradual too, I've slowly cut back on animal products and foods, until about 90% of all I've been eating was vegan, so one day I just decided to "come out" and told my family and friends I'm vegan. I did start off with an agreement with my mom that will eat vegetarian when I come visit so that I can eat there. I think it's good to go into it as slowly as you feel comfortable. Thanks to that, I think it was really easy to me to make the 100% transition, to the point that now I don't even feel tempted when someone brings a cake to work. Once you go in slowly, you can very easily an comfortably set your own boundaries when you're ready for them.
As for meat in the house - I live with two meat-eating flatmates. So I don't think that has to be a problem.
Well, most vegans "cheat" every once in a while. It's hard when you're constantly surrounded by non-vegan food. Or when a friends bakes a cake, and you know it will be super awkward when you say you can't eat it. It takes time to get to the point you are past that. For me it did, anyway. I still called myself vegan while I was going through that process, because I felt that saying I was "vegan" rather than a "sympathizer" or "trying it out" was giving me more purpose and made me feel worse when I did cheat, until eventually I stopped.
You Are Viewtiful
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I never got why people hate peas. They're one of the few "healthy foods" that I would die to eat (along with brown rice) om nom nom.
Thanks for taking the question seriously (I mean, is not like I was asking "what about plants feelings?" for people to get defensive).
Another (superserious) question: do vegans really have superpowers?
The Vegan Society strictly prohibits all discussion on this subject.
ldcommando
Banned
love me some peas
TouchMyBox
Member
I went from vegetarian to wheat-free vegan in December and I've been feeling great, it can just annoying have to think about what i'm going to make for meals sometimes.
I can't speak for anyone else but I don't cheat. I am okay with being a bit awkward.
When starting out, sure but that's a transitionary period.
I can't speak for anyone else but I don't cheat. I am okay with being a bit awkward.
When starting out, sure but that's a transitionary period.
The question is how long the transition period is... I personally think you should take your time and go in slowly. That way it's easier to stand by the boundaries you set for yourself. Even if that means going "90% vegan" for a while.
I'm personally not as strict with definitions like that. You might define a vegan as someone who will never ever never ever touch anything animal-based ever again and a vegetarian as someone who's never willing to touch a chicken etc. ever again. I think someone can be a vegetarian, like, 99,9% of the time and maybe having something like chicken when visiting a grandma who doesn't know how to do vegetarian/vegan food doesn't mean he/she stops being a vegetarian. Same goes for veganism. You can define it as someone who will never toucn animal products no matter the situation, but that's the most extreme form of veganism and there can be vegans who aren't quite as strict with it. It's unrealistic to expect that you aren't put into a situation where there isn't some little thing wrong and avoiding it seems sillier/more illogical than just letting it go for that one time. I personally feel like I could consider myself a vegan if I live like a vegan in my oersonal life, yet can bend the rules for a special occasion.
And I wasn't talking about "fancying a bit of cheese", I was talking about situations where, say, maybe someone has sprinkled a bit of parmesan in your food, forgetting/not knowing you are a vegan and me allowing myself to eat that food that someone has seen effort to make for me and would possibly go to waste if I didn't eat it. It would be moronic to throw that food away so you might as well eat it. Or maybe someone has made vegan food for you before and has put something that includes some animal product or the other in it without acknowledging it, and you only find out about it when you're already half-way through the meal. At that point it's all the same to finish the food and it would frankly be stupid not to eat it.
But hey, I'm in it more for the ecological POV (meat production is perhaps the biggest & worst humanmade environmental catastrophe excluding the big CC) than "I don't want to kill/hurt animals" reasons, though if me eating ecologically means no animal has to be hurt, that's a huge plus. I see throwing food away as a much bigger sin than bending your principles in some not-everyday situations. I consider myself a vegetarian even though I occasionally (quite rarely) eat fish (only fish that a friend or a relative has fished, never buy it from the store and avoid Norwegian salmon, tuna etc. completely) and this one time I had to eat chicken because that was the best option available at the time.
There is no such thing as "extreme" veganism. Just veganism.
You can't just redefine things around your lifestyle. Vegan has a specific meaning, that is no animal products. It's much more of a philosophy than it is a diet. Same with vegetarian; no meat. You calling yourself vegan or vegetarian then doing things that directly contradict these things out of convenience is dishonest. If you can't be bothered to explain clearly to your friends and family your dietary needs and help out in the kitchen so it's not a burden on them that's on you. Plenty of veg*ns manage this just fine, I have been doing it for a good 12 years.
If you want to dramatically reduce your meat/dairy/eggs consumption then great, good for you but you're not a vegan if you're bending what it really means when it's inconvenient to you.
speculawyer
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Go rent the Bee Movie.
Paracelsus
Member
Are lupini beans de facto good replacements for meat or there's a catch, like "no, you gotta pair them with this and that".
I love some good vegan food, I just couldn't do it as a lifestyle. Some friends are on again off again vegans, full time vegetarians, and their food is always awesome. Don't think I could ever not be an omnivore though.
Too bad about the palm oil in it :/
Too bad about the palm oil in it :/
Sell, trade, give away to friends or charity or use until they need to be replaced then get vegan replacements.
It's up to the person and what they are comfortable with and what they are financially able to do. The product has been made and bought so the harm has been done already.
I think I needed new shoes at the time anyway so it was pretty effortless.
I only had leather items, and I donated them.
I did use them until they got worn out though, because I think it's better to maximize their use before buying more and creating more waste.
Quorn isn't vegan (it has egg).
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
While not a vegan, I eat a lot of vegan-y stuff since I'm mediterranean. Here's a delicious recipe for you!
Espinachs with pine nuts and raisins.
It works best with frozen espinachs that come in square blocks.
Soak the raisins in cognag and heat them in the microwave for like half a minute. Let them soak while you cook the dish.
Boil the spinachs, after that rinse them to ensure they do not carry any water.
Take a pan, add olive oil and heat up but not too much. Once you reach a proper temperature drop a skinned clove of garlic for 1-2 rations, if you're making a large amount drop more cloves. With a gentle heat, move around the clove(s) of garlic so that the olive oil takes the flavor of garlic. Once the cloves start to brown, add in the spinachs and raise the temperature of the fire a bit. Stirr a few times, then add the pine nuts and the raisins. Keep stirring until the ingredients have soaked up the olive oil.
Serve.
Things to take into account: temperature of oil and amount are critical. If the oil is too hot ingredients won't mix the flavors, rather they'll just brown and fry. If there's too much oil the ingredients won't soak it all and oily spinachs taste bad and no matter how much you try you won't be able to rinse it all.
Variations: if you don't like garlic, you can replace it with minced onion. If you aren't fond of alcohol, you can soak the raisins in water instead, but be sure to rinse and dry them well before throwing them into the pan.
Spices and salt according to your tastes.
Enjoy!
Espinachs with pine nuts and raisins.
It works best with frozen espinachs that come in square blocks.
Soak the raisins in cognag and heat them in the microwave for like half a minute. Let them soak while you cook the dish.
Boil the spinachs, after that rinse them to ensure they do not carry any water.
Take a pan, add olive oil and heat up but not too much. Once you reach a proper temperature drop a skinned clove of garlic for 1-2 rations, if you're making a large amount drop more cloves. With a gentle heat, move around the clove(s) of garlic so that the olive oil takes the flavor of garlic. Once the cloves start to brown, add in the spinachs and raise the temperature of the fire a bit. Stirr a few times, then add the pine nuts and the raisins. Keep stirring until the ingredients have soaked up the olive oil.
Serve.
Things to take into account: temperature of oil and amount are critical. If the oil is too hot ingredients won't mix the flavors, rather they'll just brown and fry. If there's too much oil the ingredients won't soak it all and oily spinachs taste bad and no matter how much you try you won't be able to rinse it all.
Variations: if you don't like garlic, you can replace it with minced onion. If you aren't fond of alcohol, you can soak the raisins in water instead, but be sure to rinse and dry them well before throwing them into the pan.
Spices and salt according to your tastes.
Enjoy!
Nope, I read it somewhere on the internet... Can't even remember where. Just thought it would be cute and harmless.Just curious if you got the thread title from this bridge I used to drive through every day in London:
Made me laugh!
Pine nuts are amazing in salads. Also, can make some amazing pine nut butter with them, but they're so expensive I can never justify using so much of themI love pine nuts. Shame they are so expensive.
And that recipe looks very good Bitmap Frogs, I might try it today if I have some pine nuts left. Thanks!
Most Indians eat chicken and fish.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
entremet
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itsinmyveins
Gets to pilot the crappy patrol labors
I was a vegetarian for nearly two years when I was younger way back, but I've recently started to move to a vegetarian diet again.
I like meat a lot.
Hamburgers. Steaks. Gah, my mouth starts watering just at the thought of it, but I thought I should at least do a bare minimum of "good" so I've decided to eat vegetarian mostly, but leaving room to allow myself a burger or so occasionally. It's better than nothing, I'm thinking. Haven't had meat for months now though, apart from maybe fish once or twice.
I like meat a lot.
Hamburgers. Steaks. Gah, my mouth starts watering just at the thought of it, but I thought I should at least do a bare minimum of "good" so I've decided to eat vegetarian mostly, but leaving room to allow myself a burger or so occasionally. It's better than nothing, I'm thinking. Haven't had meat for months now though, apart from maybe fish once or twice.