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Watch_Dogs PC Performance Thread
- Thread starter VisceralBowl
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You need to be set under Display to Full Screen. Borderless window does not let you select Vsync or Refresh rates.
Did you try activating it through the xml?
Seems like my performance took a random dump, like I had to lower everything to medium and still got FPS drops to 40 when driving.
Got to a point were the graphics are pretty bad, by bad I mean sleeping dogs actually looks better ( not a dig against Sleeping dogs, that is great looking game, I mean a 2014 game isn't much better than a 2012 game)
Not sure what is happening with this game, so weird.
Got to a point were the graphics are pretty bad, by bad I mean sleeping dogs actually looks better ( not a dig against Sleeping dogs, that is great looking game, I mean a 2014 game isn't much better than a 2012 game)
Not sure what is happening with this game, so weird.
3GB is enough if you use post-AA options, like SMAA or Temporal SMAA. Temporal SMAA looks better than MSAA in motion and in many cases static.
MSAA is irrelevant if a game supports SMAA/Temporal SMAA.
stufte
Member
Yah this is pretty much my setup as well. I can live with some lower settings, I can't live with the stuttering.
Feels bad man.
Ugh, this is basically my setupWhat AA setting are you running?
Tried with Temporal SMAA and TXAAx2, both seems to run fine, FPS wise. It's all in the stutters, man.
I would imagine it will take a few patches for them to improve performance. It happened with AC4 too.
This is my settings for Ultra settings at 1080p on a single card. You don't need super sampling to make it look good. Super sampling just bogs down the framerate, and it's pointless unless you have SLI.
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB OC (1200/1800)
You need to download Sweet FX 1.5.1 Configuration
http://sweetfx.thelazy.net/
Download the Sweet FX Watchdogs preset. There are a few but I chose this.
http://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/1675/
Load the watchdogs.exe on the Sweet FX configurator. Then load the preset. Some people might have trouble viewing the preset, but close it, and reopen it.
Once you see the preset configuration, simply click add sweet fx on the right column then save config.
Use the Reddit PC tweak guide here
http://www.reddit.com/r/watch_dogs/comments/26c3ew/deferredfxqualityconsole/
DeferredFXQuality= PC
PostFXquality = off
Resolution= 1920 x 1080
(Adjust to your liking)
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After you are done with the settings, this is what you should have.
AA: OFF (Sweet FX has it's own SMAA)
AF: 16x (Through Nvidia Control Panel)
Ambient Occlusion: HBAO+ High
Shaders: High
Shadows: High
Everything else Ultra
You'll get at least around 45 AVG fps.
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HamiltonianConstraint
Neo Member
TXAA 2x is very forgivable in this game if your GPU supports it, that is why I was shocked that more people are not experimenting with it, I think people should experiment with it and see how many frames they really lose compared to lesser settings.
Windom Earle
Member
I think their V-ram specifications ingame are actually optimistic. Might actually want to turn textures down to medium for 2gb cards and high for 3gb.
One thing I have to say is that I like the daytime lighting much more than in the videos I have seen. Together with the crisp PC image I do think it looks nice.
One thing I have to say is that I like the daytime lighting much more than in the videos I have seen. Together with the crisp PC image I do think it looks nice.
Thanks; of course I maxed everything out, and that top TXAA selection makes a huge difference here (moreso than with other titles, in my experience).
TXAA adds blur, not as much as FXAA, but it takes away sharpness. Temporal SMAA has the advantage of lower VRAM and keeps the image sharp. The jaggies are not as clean, but I would rather of lower VRAM and better performance and a sharp overall image.
TXAA will have better performance and lower VRAM than MSAA, so at least it has that going for it.
Please, again, everyone: THERE IS NO POINT IN USING MSAA!
Zero stuttering so far. It is installed on my SSD and I do have 6GB of VRAM - whereas you are restricted to 3GB of VRAM. Both of those could be limiting factors.
TXAA is blurry garbage. FXAA is definitely the way to go - unless you head down the MSAA route.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
That was exactly it, thanks.
The SSD is probably helping the most. You would only get stutters and lower performance if you were actually going over your VRAM. With everything on Ultra, 1080p, Temporal SMAA I never go over 3GB of VRAM, but there is the occasional stutter. I however have the game installed on a 7200rpm hard drive.
No doubt the stutters and general performance will improve in later patches.
Ya the higher the resolution the more VRAM you need especially for open world games. Better off sticking with 1080p and 144hz
But I already sold my kids' education down the river for this hardware!
Computer Spec:
[email protected]
16GB Ram
SLI Titans
2X256 Samsung 840 SSD Raid 0
Game Settings (max):
Standing:
Running:
Driving:
30-50 fps. I need to play with the setting to try to get locked 60fps. And, I hate blurriness so going to disable TXAA, DOF and motion blur while playing.
[email protected]
16GB Ram
SLI Titans
2X256 Samsung 840 SSD Raid 0
Game Settings (max):
Standing:
Running:
Driving:
30-50 fps. I need to play with the setting to try to get locked 60fps. And, I hate blurriness so going to disable TXAA, DOF and motion blur while playing.
Is there a way to install the game to my main SSD (C
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover does the job after you've downloaded. There are other tools and methods, too, but I don't recall them off by heart. Paging JaceC!
I find that TXAA is great when I play a game on my TV, as the blur isn't really visible, but the improvement on aliasing sure is. TXAA on my monitor however is just horrible.
FunkyLounge
Member
This does not actually work. I would not be posting otherwise. Thanks though
huh?
Not being familiar with TXAA, I can't really imagine anything being blurrier than FXAA.....
VisceralBowl
Member
They're both blurry garbage.
piratepwnsninja
Member
Is anyone else missing icons on the minimap as well as their reticle?
KINGofCRA5H
Member
yeah, I'm really not understanding the hate for TXAA. Isn't the whole point of AA to remove the sharp, jaggy lines? FXAA and MSAA seem to just sharpen them, making them worse imo, unless you go to 8xMSSA. TXAA remove the sharpness AND the jaggies. Win/win for me.
Robobandit
Member
Maybe the 6GB of vram is helping you out, then. I also have the game installed on a SSD.
(samsung 840 evo)
ok so i discovered something odd whilst messing with the borderless window and full screen setting in display options in game. i have vsynch turned on in NCP and also vsynch set to 1 in the options. Now when i start the game my fps is locked to 30fps but goes upto 45-50 in parts.
once the game has loaded i toggled the window mode first to borderless and then full screen. now my fps stays steady at 45-50 right at the start when you leave the locker room for the first time. before the toggle it stayed rock at 30. weird but im happy as its a bit smoother no idea why this is happening but my guess is a vsynch bug/glitch
once the game has loaded i toggled the window mode first to borderless and then full screen. now my fps stays steady at 45-50 right at the start when you leave the locker room for the first time. before the toggle it stayed rock at 30. weird but im happy as its a bit smoother
no idea why this is happening but my guess is a vsynch bug/glitchVisceralBowl
Member
FXAA blurs the entire image. TXAA has a very similar effect. MSAA is one of the best types of AA outside of super sampling.
I guess soft edges wouldn't be that bad but textures and far off objects are affected by the blurring process.
Is there a way to install the game to my main SSD (C
steam gives you the option to have multiple install locations. if you haven't downloaded it there is a section that allows you to pick what drive you want to install it on once you added a folder in it.
This there are both horrible.
I am getting around 32 ona 7870 with a 8350, but on my Nvidia set-up with a 760 I get around 45, this is Ultra with SMAA and High Textures.
I have looked at Textures on PC High and they are LOWER than PS4 version which is a surprise
So, does this really work? Because, I'm experiencing some stuttering on Ultra, with these specs:
i7-4770K @ 4.4Ghz
GTX 780Ti 3072MB
8GB DDR3 RAM @1600Mhz
Is this how it's supposed to look?
I also have 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 RAM lying somewhere arround here, should I install those, too?
KINGofCRA5H
Member
I still have some tweaking to do, but imo TXAA looks the best by far to me, in terms of removing jaggies. Even 8xMSSA doesn't look as good, plus I get better performance when using 2xTXAA
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Has anyone run into a bug where you can't get any sound/audio playing?
The opening menu has sound but when I start the game the sound disappears completely.
The opening menu has sound but when I start the game the sound disappears completely.
adampa1006
Banned
Can anyone with a 3770K or 4770K and 290X chime in? Sorry If i missed it
Anyone who's better at tech than me that's got an explanation for this? I'm not getting any performance gains from changing resolutions. Not a single frame. Tried switching from 1080p all the way down to 800x600. Nothing. I've never in my life seen that before.
Generally speaking no change in graphics = no performance changes imply a CPU bottleneck, right? But like I said, my 3570K should be able to deal and it isn't even reaching above 75 % load.
This game is driving me insane.
Generally speaking no change in graphics = no performance changes imply a CPU bottleneck, right? But like I said, my 3570K should be able to deal and it isn't even reaching above 75 % load.
This game is driving me insane.
Robert J. Sullivan
Member
Some dude/dudette on Reddit said he eliminated stuttering by using borderless window mode, haven't tried it though. Let me know if it works.
VisceralBowl
Member
The benchmarks in the OP have some.
Weird.. What card do you have?
I don't think that is the case.
I'm currently running Watch Dogs on my 4670K/770 with 8GB of RAM and a 250 GB Samsung EVO SSD and I'm experiencing a lot of stuttering unless I turn down the texture setting to medium and the rest of the graphics options to high.
I get about 40 ~ 60 fps with no way of getting it stable.
Where did you see this? I've got my laptop runnign it on high textures and my friend's PS4. High looks identical for the most part, however they are inconsistent. On PC a sign might look lower rez, but then you walk a block and a part of the street on the PS4 looks lower rez.
Ultra on PC is undeniably better than PS4, but you need a big fat GPU buffer.
4xTXAA certainly is.
Crimsonsky
Member
Max Titanfall settings requires 3+ as well, how many games need to come out that can't be done with 2gb before you guys see the light? Telling people "2 is fine for the foreseeable future", which gets done constantly in the PC thread, is just wrong.
Wrong. Skyrim IS a 32 bit application, which means it can see and use 4GB of RAM and at least 4 GB of VRAM. Not 4GB total, 4GB of EACH. Also it is just the opposite, if you are modded even remotely with 2GB of VRAM you are done for you'll be crashing regularly. At 3 you have to be careful(1k textures outside, 2k inside), and I've personally never seen it reach or go past 4(I had a 7970 6GB that I got up to 3.9GB with 8k textures) but there is a guy in the Skyrim thread who says he saw his Titan hit 5GB. ENB also helps you go around the VRAM limit by doing a large chunk of the graphics processing itself and it has no limit on VRAM.
This thread is just proof positive that you need to be doing your own research when you go to purchase parts or a PC and no matter how helpful someone maybe that doesn't mean they are correct.
No. MSAA 8x is the most demanding. TXAA 2x is about on par with MSAA 2x and TXAA 4x with MSAA 4x.
The difference being that MSAA only samples geometry. Texture and transparency aliasing are not treated.
So you have nice anti-alised edges on everything except things like shapes on textures and chain link fences.
I personally don't mind TXAA's blur too much, so it's my preffered AA method, if I can turn it on without too much issue. Otherwise SMAA is best, temporal even better, because as much as static jaggies detract from the scene, even the most obscure jaggies will dance cry out to you merrily the moment the camera/your perspective moves.
Lostconfused
Member
I'd agree with this statement.
VibratingDonkey
Member
[email protected], 8GB, 780.
Maxed out SMAA@1080p, AKA the exact settings Nvidia recommends. Stuttering, freezing mess when driving. The framerate is perfectly fine, seems to be all about the VRAM. Will probably have to bump textures down to high to make it playable. Hopefully future titles will cool it on the VRAM or this will have been the worst GPU I've ever bought.
Maxed out SMAA@1080p, AKA the exact settings Nvidia recommends. Stuttering, freezing mess when driving. The framerate is perfectly fine, seems to be all about the VRAM. Will probably have to bump textures down to high to make it playable. Hopefully future titles will cool it on the VRAM or this will have been the worst GPU I've ever bought.