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[Roxkis_ii]

Jesus, just because a game failed doesn't make me a victim, you social justice warriors just want to victimize everything you touch right? Okay, even if I was a victim, you were telling me to shut up and stomach it, isn't that very opposition to your social justice creed, that victims need to voice out? Where is your logic?

Even just inside this thread, many people acknowledge they knew the game for better or worse, who in order to defend, you don't even mind blatantly lying?
Do you even have a slice of reading comprehension ability? Where the fuck in the OP I "righteous fury" anything? Even the title has a completely sarcastic tone. And no, not a single reasonable person would think my thread is advertising SBI. If your big brain thinks mockery equals to advertising, I'd be happy to advertise you all day long, seriously, get some help.

Bro, I don't even know who your responding to at this point. You seem to just be talking out your ass from what I can gather.

No one is forcing you to play games you don't want to. No one is forcing to buy games you don't want to, but you have my permission to keep on crying about games you never intended on buying if that makes you feel better, just don't complain when people call you a baby for it.

I hope one day you look at these post you made and cringe.

 

[jason10mm]

Hey fellow GAF incels, I have a great idea. How about we infiltrate every female-dominated fandom and fix them up. We’ll demand that every game/show/movie should have an average looking dude with a dad bod as the main protagonist. And
He should be the smartest, strongest, bravest, and most virtuous character ever with no flaws. He should constantly boss around all the women, in fact let’s make the women really weak willed and dopey so the protagonist looks good in comparison.

And if anyone criticizes it, we call them misandrists.

Hell YEAH! Lets force them to insert uber-chads into the next "knitting circle solves local murders" or "mid-wives band together to solve local murders" or "waitresses team up to solve local murders" IPs out there and get some testosterone going!!

But seriously, men HAVE already infiltrated most womens spaces, look at the beauty pageants, sports teams, and fashion worlds. LOTS a dudes in there now.

 

[jason10mm]

I actually don’t think it’s that insidious. Face scanning is not a perfect technology because the human face is not static, it’s no different than if you took a bunch of photos of a beautiful woman, she won’t look beautiful in all of them, you have to catch her at the right moment and the right angle, etc. That why great photographers gets paid big bucks.

Same is true with scanning which is just a 3D digital photo. The result has to be touched up by an artist to get the final result to be more aesthetically pleasing. The problem is they aren’t being touched up, because nobody dares to suggest they should be. Because doing so means you are saying the actress is not good looking naturally, or the person doing the scan is doing a bad job, etc. The toxic positivity thing. And you end up with what probably what the actress looks like when they get out of bed in the morning with a growl on her face, it’s recognizably her, but in her worst light.

But we DO see it work really well in some cases. So why the discrepancy? Tech failure or maybe they cast a person for whom the tech just doesn't work well and instead of recast they just ran with it? Or they didn't have the resources to fix it? Or they didn't WANT to fix it because the product met their goals?

 

[ChoosableOne]

Looks nice.

 

[LectureMaster]

Bro, I don't even know who your responding to at this point. You seem to just be talking out your ass from what I can gather.

No one is forcing you to play games you don't want to. No one is forcing to buy games you don't want to, but you have my permission to keep on crying about games you never intended on buying if that makes you feel better, but just don't complain when people call you a baby for it.

I hope one day you look at these post you made and cringe.

Jesus, being a recorder repeating "Nobody forces you to buy games" won't help you mend all your shallow logic.

Where did I say anything about people forcing me to play or buy games? When you guys have no reasoning, you just came up with things? How convenient!

And yet you keep dodging the course argument, that It's never about random games, it is the SBI plague that keeps spreading. Constantly changing goalposts and setting strawmen won't really help your SBI defense cause, get better.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The anti-woke is just as annoying as the so called woke.

One created the other.

And way to gaslight, "so called woke" but not call the other "so called anti-woke"

You're not fooling anyone.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

Perfection.

 

[digdug2]

What's up with all of these developers making their female protagonists ugly as sin? I'm not sure which is worse, the protagonist for this game or the Fable remake.

 

[peek]

I wishlisted it. Not expecting much but its a new IP and it seems a bit similar to 3rd Birthday with the teleportation possession stuff. Look at all this glorious slightly janky AA stealth. That is my fetish.



I'm 100% picking it up on sale.

Thanks for posting this. Was curious what the game even is. Great little warning for those who were interested!

xD

 

[Buggy Loop]

Legit first time I hear about this game, in this thread.

 

[sainraja]

I am really not seeing how the actress was made ugly. See videos below.

Trailer:


Preview:


Outside changes to character that might be based on the story/setting of the game, the character model still looks like the actress playing her and she still looks pretty. I feel like some people in this thread are going blind or something.

EDIT
The more I see it, the more interested I am getting lol. I hope the game does well because gameplay looks pretty interesting/cool.

EDIT
The character is ALSO supposed to be an Indian.

Ya'll need to relax and put down the pitch forks. Game could still do bad, but it's likely not going to be because of the reasons being mentioned.

 

[LectureMaster]

One created the other.

And way to gaslight, "so called woke" but not call the other "so called anti-woke"

You're not fooling anyone.

Fuck all those "oh anti-woke is as bad as woke"

Do they not understand, if there was no wokeness to begin with, there would never be anti-wokeness?

It is fucking like, "oh Hitler was bad killing people, but the allies killing people was as bad"

 

[Clear]

Its doomed.

If you pick a name for your game that isn't immediately indicative of what the "hook" is, then you need to do that visually -in a glance.

This does neither. So its just not going to get any traction I suspect.

Which isn't to say it won't be a good game, just that there are certain fundamentals that you need to sell your idea to the public.

Again its one of those times where I have absolutely no idea who's supposed to be excited by this. It looks decent visually, but its so blandly anonymous that I can't imagine it attracting much attention. Especially at this time of year.

 

[Last Hearth]

But we DO see it work really well in some cases. So why the discrepancy? Tech failure or maybe they cast a person for whom the tech just doesn't work well and instead of recast they just ran with it? Or they didn't have the resources to fix it? Or they didn't WANT to fix it because the product met their goals?

That’s my point, the times you see it working all had artists touch up the scanned results. Which in a toxic positivity environment no one would dare suggest.

 

[vanillaFace]

She's Indian irl.

No idea if she is fair skinned or wears light makeup.

she's attractive, don't know why they deliberately made her ugly.

 

[DeepEnigma]

she's attractive, don't know why they deliberately made her ugly.

They hate women. Especially pretty ones.

 

[vanillaFace]

I am really not seeing how the actress was made ugly. See videos below.

can you see it now?

 

[strike670]

One created the other.

And way to gaslight, "so called woke" but not call the other "so called anti-woke"

You're not fooling anyone.

Hilarious. I said "so called woke" because anytime there is a POC or a non attractive white male or female MC some people here and elsewhere whine about a game being DEI or woke. It's juvenile and pathetic. Some here were crying about the Ghosts sequel being woke because the MC is a female. It's transparent as hell. A good example of a game actually being woke would be the Suicide Squad game. That game definitely fits the criteria, but a lot of this shit is overreaction and projection.

 

[strike670]

Fuck all those "oh anti-woke is as bad as woke"

Do they not understand, if there was no wokeness to begin with, there would never be anti-wokeness?

It is fucking like, "oh Hitler was bad killing people, but the allies killing people was as bad"

You are comparing Hitler to people forcing diversity. Makes sense.

 

[LectureMaster]

You are comparing Hitler to people forcing diversity. Makes sense.

Jesus, it's about the logical fallacy. I can't help you if you must take this literally.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Hilarious. I said "so called woke" because anytime there is a POC or a non attractive white male or female MC some people here and elsewhere whine about a game being DEI or woke. It's juvenile and pathetic. Some here were crying about the Ghosts sequel being woke because the MC is a female. It's transparent as hell. A good example of a game actually being woke would be the Suicide Squad game. That game definitely fits the criteria, but a lot of this shit is overreaction and projection.

Once again, the pushback would not be formed, if there weren't entire organizations, institutionalized, politically, etc., pushing so hard in one direction.

Context and nuance is a thing, yes, but one would not be without the other. Ebb and flow.

 

[The Saint]

Does it really hurt SBI if the games they make fail? Aren't they just some idiotic consultancy group? If the game fails, weren't they paid for their work no matter what? I'm not saying they are not trash; I am just wondering what kind of affect it has on them because they are still getting work. Wake me when they actually suffer so much that they perma shut down and then I will celebrate.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Does it really hurt SBI if the games they make fail? Aren't they just some idiotic consultancy group? If the game fails, weren't they paid for their work no matter what? I'm not saying they are not trash; I am just wondering what kind of affect it has on them because they are still getting work. Wake me when they actually suffer so much that they perma shut down and then I will celebrate.

They are lobbyist that "help" bring funds in exchange for fucking up the game story/characters.

This fake company can't be understood as a normal business model, otherwise no game studio would hire them.

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

I genuinely don't care whether this game is DEI or not. It just looks really shit.

 

[pudel]

Does it really hurt SBI if the games they make fail? Aren't they just some idiotic consultancy group? If the game fails, weren't they paid for their work no matter what? I'm not saying they are not trash; I am just wondering what kind of affect it has on them because they are still getting work. Wake me when they actually suffer so much that they perma shut down and then I will celebrate.

I would assume when devs, publishers and investors realize that this whole unnecessary DEI stuff just makes them loose money in the end....than this consultancies are disappearing themselves.

 

[Hotel Security]

Never heard of it. Did it get any real promotion at all?

 

[strike670]

Once again, the pushback would not be formed, if there weren't entire organizations, institutionalized, politically, etc., pushing so hard in one direction.

Context and nuance is a thing, yes, but one would not be without the other. Ebb and flow.

The way I see it, is that both sides are pushing to hard in either direction. One side overreacts about POC or non attractive game characters and the other side cries anytime there is an attractive game character or white male MC. I find myself asking why not have both, and let the creators determine what direction they want their game to go artistically. If the game is good, then the game is good regardless what the MC looks like. I find all of this drama exhausting and takes enjoyment away from the hobby.

 

[strike670]

Jesus, it's about the logical fallacy. I can't help you if you must take this literally.

I just think using that as a comparison is in bad taste.

 

[Hotel Security]

The way I see it, is that both sides are pushing to hard in either direction. One side overreacts about POC or non attractive game characters and the other side cries anytime there is an attractive game character or white male MC.

Yeah, That's just how media works now. You only get attention for extreme and loud opinions. People who want to be level-headed about this stuff get ignored. So everyone's got to exaggerate and use hyperbole and none of them represents what the majority actually thinks. Sadly, it works.

 

[RedC]

The way I see it, is that both sides are pushing to hard in either direction. One side overreacts about POC or non attractive game characters and the other side cries anytime there is an attractive game character or white male MC. I find myself asking why not have both, and let the creators determine what direction they want their game to go artistically. If the game is good, then the game is good regardless what the MC looks like.

This is my overall take.

I'm all for legitimate critiques and arguments made in good faith, but I'm also for letting creators create whatever they want, and letting the market decide whether it's good or bad, like or dislike it, and more importantly if there's a sizable enough audience willing to spend their money on it to make it a profitable venture or a loss.

 

[LectureMaster]

I just think using that as a comparison is in bad taste.

Then you overthink too much.

Let's get back to point, if you could get rid of those forced DEI craps, I assure you there wouldn't be any of those "overreacts", how about that?

 

[delfrickintree]

The way I see it, is that both sides are pushing to hard in either direction. One side overreacts about POC or non attractive game characters and the other side cries anytime there is an attractive game character or white male MC. I find myself asking why not have both, and let the creators determine what direction they want their game to go artistically. If the game is good, then the game is good regardless what the MC looks like. I find all of this drama exhausting and takes enjoyment away from the hobby.

The Pro Gamer and Anti Pro Gamer debate never ends. Look at how long these threads go with the same old talking points, I am exhausted too! But you know what they say, cant handle the heat, get out of the kitchen. I just stick around to see if anyone says anything new, or to learn who the newest appointed DEI Defender™ is. Its kind of amusing in that sense.

And leave Hitler out of this. Nobody knows whether he would have been a Pro Gamer these days.

 

[semiconscious]

game looks interesting enough (not day 1 interesting, but few games are, eh?). & people might remember that just because some of these developers get sweet baby involved doesn't necessarily mean they either 1) end up listening to them, or 2) ever bring them back...

 

[lmimmfn]

I get what you are saying but the actress playing the character is half Indian and in some of her pictures online looks pretty similar to how the character looks.

If the character model looks a bit off that is probably due to the skill of the developer but it's close and she still looks pretty.

Game might still do bad but there is no need to predict its failure based on these factors. They haven't taken an existing IP and changed anything so.. I don't see the big deal here.

She is pretty, her character in game is ugly/trans(deliberately made masculine).

I can't honestly take you guys seriously anymore, you seem like plants.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Yeah, That's just how media works now. You only get attention for extreme and loud opinions. People who want to be level-headed about this stuff get ignored. So everyone's got to exaggerate and use hyperbole and none of them represents what the majority actually thinks. Sadly, it works.

Yup. For a lot of media, but not all.

I dont see Wall Street Journal or National Geographic putting themselves out there saying wacky things on stage or their writers do click bait YT videos where the thumbnail is a hipster face dude with his gasping open mouth. They get respect and sales from mature content.

But content that exaggerates or has click bait headlines or dopey visuals need to do that to get attention because often times the content is junk.

 

[simpatico]

I wishlisted it. Not expecting much but its a new IP and it seems a bit similar to 3rd Birthday with the teleportation possession stuff. Look at all this glorious slightly janky AA stealth. That is my fetish.



I'm 100% picking it up on sale.

I could see the stepping being pretty cool depending how creative you can get. Not seeing a problem with the game. It's not gender swapping or race swapping existing characters. She's not playing as an Army Ranger Sniper or anything. This game appears to be in its lane. Maybe I haven't seen enough. This just looks like a game targeted toward chicks, and the budget seems to be in line with that market size.

 

[digital_ghost]

Sigh, another...dude looks like a lady game

The modern game industry was foretold by the prophet Steven Tyler.

 

[DarkstarRising13]

Does it really hurt SBI if the games they make fail? Aren't they just some idiotic consultancy group? If the game fails, weren't they paid for their work no matter what? I'm not saying they are not trash; I am just wondering what kind of affect it has on them because they are still getting work. Wake me when they actually suffer so much that they perma shut down and then I will celebrate.

Unfortunately no. As Steve Jobs said, consultant groups don't bear the cost of a product flopping due to their consultant, and they are often paid in advance before their game's release. But the number of flops the games they are involved in are getting along with the soaring amount of negativity surrounding that group, Sweet Baby Inc.'s disgusting days in the gaming industry are numbered. I won't be surprised if they shut down within a year and all its members blacklisted for good.

 

[strike670]

Yeah, That's just how media works now. You only get attention for extreme and loud opinions. People who want to be level-headed about this stuff get ignored. So everyone's got to exaggerate and use hyperbole and none of them represents what the majority actually thinks. Sadly, it works.

That seems to be the state of everything now. I try to hear varying opinions and analyze the information and form my own opinion from that. Sometimes I am wrong and sometimes I am right, but that goes for everyone, live and learn and hopefully grow from that experience. I am just to old to let pride get the best of me. I am just tired of this fence sitting bullshit, where no one can budge and each side thinks the other is the devil incarnate.

I personally blame social media for much of this and wish it never existed to be honest.

 

[Kotaro]

Go woke go broke

Go DEI go DIE!!!

 

[flying_sq]

Nah, she's a total smoke show in real life. I went out of my way to google the actress after seeing her in the game. Absolute boner fuel.

Go watch The French Dispatch

 

[Small John McCarthy]

I don’t buy games where I suspect I may get a lecture.

 

[thekillergreece]

Not sure about the hate cause the games seems to be... fine? I'll wishlist it and see if the gameplay and story is actually good.
The title is also misleading, trailers got 20k views and only 2.6k dislikes. That's hardly an indication for a flop.

 

[duck_sauce]

Fuck all those "oh anti-woke is as bad as woke"

Do they not understand, if there was no wokeness to begin with, there would never be anti-wokeness?

It is fucking like, "oh Hitler was bad killing people, but the allies killing people was as bad"

Please stop posting without fully thinking things through. You can't compare these two situations and expect it to be okay.

This thread has lost all meaning, and it's turned into a place where people attack each other just for the sake of arguing and trying to be right. Healthy discussion is welcome, but it’s crucial to leave your emotions at the door. When emotions take over, you can’t claim to be using reason and logic—that’s simply not how it works.

 

[midnightAI]

Once again, the pushback would not be formed, if there weren't entire organizations, institutionalized, politically, etc., pushing so hard in one direction.

Context and nuance is a thing, yes, but one would not be without the other. Ebb and flow.

And everyone would be much better off if both extreme sides didn't exist

 

[Londo]

Tyson on a fucking nes

I raise you a Harrison Ford on a sweet Atari 2600

 

[LectureMaster]

Please stop posting without fully thinking things through. You can't compare these two situations and expect it to be okay.

This thread has lost all meaning, and it's turned into a place where people attack each other just for the sake of arguing and trying to be right. Healthy discussion is welcome, but it’s crucial to leave your emotions at the door. When emotions take over, you can’t claim to be using reason and logic—that’s simply not how it works.

I have replied before, it's about the logical fallacy, one created the other, and calling those two equal devils is simply fallacious. And that's the point.

 

[peek]

I am really not seeing how the actress was made ugly. See videos below.

Trailer:


Preview:


Outside changes to character that might be based on the story/setting of the game, the character model still looks like the actress playing her and she still looks pretty. I feel like some people in this thread are going blind or something.

EDIT
The more I see it, the more interested I am getting lol. I hope the game does well because gameplay looks pretty interesting/cool.

EDIT
The character is ALSO supposed to be an Indian.

Ya'll need to relax and put down the pitch forks. Game could still do bad, but it's likely not going to be because of the reasons being mentioned.

But the gameplay just looks like shit xD

Add on top of that, playing some plain jane middle aged woman is... yeah not very exciting lmao.

 

[VanCityGamer]

Most beautiful woman alive, imho.

It's a fucking crime what they did with the in-game model.

I don’t think she’s anywhere near the most beautiful woman in Hollywood, but is very good looking for sure.

 

[GymWolf]

I raise you a Harrison Ford on a sweet Atari 2600

It looks just like him.