Battersea Power Station said:I'm probably around the same level as you. I can do push-ups OK (not great) but I suck at pull-ups (I can do 6 reverse and like... 2 wide). And I've also been doing running/jogging everyday.
I've found it doable, but I do the reverse schedule: P90X in the morning, jogging in the evenings. I like that because running kinda loosens and extends many of the muscles that were worked in the morning. Some days I feel good and can do 3 miles and some days my legs are dead and I stop at 2. Some days after running I also try to do some foot-speed exercises. I do some competitive fencing and foot control/speed are maybe the most important thing for me, so I need to balance the weight and strength-training with quickness and flexibility.
nilbog21 said:Can someone give me an idea of what the diet consists of? And also do you need to buy their shakes, etc? I've looked through this thread and failed :/
Also do you need a resistance band? aren't those a joke?
I'm not going to say this is a "scientific" answer as it's only from personal experience: yes. If you're actively working out, you need to up your food intake. But don't be afraid about getting it "perfect."J Tourettes said:I've started this today and I have a question. Using the workings given in the book, I'm in the level 2 category for the food plan. Hwever, I cycle a 19 mile round journey to and from work every day so would I be better off starting being in level 3?
Thanks.
Battersea Power Station said:Re: Yoga X
I don't have extensive experience with yoga (I've done maybe 2 different routines, and one of them is Bikram Yoga, which most don't consider "authentic") but, damn. The discrepancy between the first half and the second half is huge. The first is like a chore: repeating the runner's stretch evolutions over and over and over and over and over. And it's all isometric strength training -- not too much flexibility involved. Then the second half is like light stretching, followed by the 17-minute or so ab exercises, which brings me to the next question:
abs: The day before yoga includes Ab Ripper X, yoga includes abs, the day after yoga includes Ab Ripper X. That's 3 days in a row of abs. Is that cool or is it not giving enough rest time to the ab muscles?
Thanks.
Battersea Power Station said:I'm not going to say this is a "scientific" answer as it's only from personal experience: yes. If you're actively working out, you need to up your food intake. But don't be afraid about getting it "perfect."
One of my downfalls is that if I'm not doing the absolutely right thing, e.g. right amount of protein, carbs, weight, reps, etc., I feel as if I'm wasting my time and I almost give up. I have to keep reminding myself that it's ok to be less than exact and that I just need to use the feedback for next time.
Since I do running in the evenings, sometimes I'm really low on energy and can hardly do the number of laps that were easy for me last week. So I know I (probably) didn't eat enough and I'm low on energy and I adjust accordingly.
Just remember that it's a constant adjustment -- a push and pull, maybe even based upon how hard/easy you're biking/coasting to or from work -- and that it's ok if you're off a little here and there. At least it helps me.
Good summary of the differences.Jugendstil said:It's my understanding the core muscles that yoga and pilates routines focus on are often different than standard ab exercises like crunches. The "core" (which is kind of a buzzword but it works) refers to the abdominal muscles group, but also your hips and lumbar muscles and back. It's why even people with a six pack often have trouble with certain yoga poses - if you've only ever done crunches, you haven't done much to strengthen your entire core, and you're at risk of actually weakening your back. A thorough yoga routine is going to work this entire section of your body and in turn help you with your ab exercises as well.
I think there's enough of a variety in the workouts that you should be fine, and if anything the yoga will help you during Ab Ripper, but obviously if it feels painful or wrong, take a break.
Freedom = $1.05 said:So, any recommendations for good resistance bands? I keep reading about some breaking and whatnot.
jason10mm said:I got the 10 band set from this place:
http://www.extremebodyworkout.com/p90x-products/resistance-bands-complete.php
Which is probably the same set sold everywhere else. Get some extra handles though, changing them out on the thicker bands is a PITA and not something you would want to do very often. I find I use the orange, green and blue bands the most, but still need the thin pink and red bands for some of the shoulder stuff. I'm not sure if the color=weight thing is standardized across all band manufacturers, but if you are a decently strong male, you could probably get by with the 25/40/45 pound bands (OJ/green/blue) or so plus a set of 5 pound doumbells for the few shoulder exercises if you don't want to spring for the 10 band set.
For the bike commuter guy, are you thin, average, or fat? If you stick to the 6 day/week work-out cycle, your body will quickly tell you if you need to eat more, you will find that you are falling off on the workout reps (if you write them down like you are supposed to). If you eat properly now, then the p90x diet won't do much for you. If you live off pizza and beer, then you will definitely see a change. The p90x diet is mainly designed to feed you protein for muscle growth while limiting fat and carbs to lean you up, though by the end the carb count is fairly high versus South Beach or other "diet" plans.
How often do you do them? Even if you can only do a couple, if you keep at it, you should eventually improve unless your form is off or something. Eh, you could try pull-downs(if you have access to a gym), or Dumbbell rows which all work the Lats and other supporting muscles. Also, in the P90x videos, the girl normally uses a chair as a support when she does them. So maybe you could try using one(or w/e for support) till you improve enough to do it without. You could also try using a band(s) instead, by wrapping one end around the bar and the other around your foot(or feet).Pangya said:I really want to start P90X but I heard that you would be required to do pull-ups like crazy. I can't even do a single one.... mostly because I'm weak and a bit overweight (5'6 160 pounds). What's the best way to train myself to be able to do pull-ups? I've tried reverse pull-ups but it doesn't seem like I'm progressing at all still =x
Pangya said:I really want to start P90X but I heard that you would be required to do pull-ups like crazy. I can't even do a single one.... mostly because I'm weak and a bit overweight (5'6 160 pounds). What's the best way to train myself to be able to do pull-ups? I've tried reverse pull-ups but it doesn't seem like I'm progressing at all still =x
Pangya said:I really want to start P90X but I heard that you would be required to do pull-ups like crazy. I can't even do a single one.... mostly because I'm weak and a bit overweight (5'6 160 pounds). What's the best way to train myself to be able to do pull-ups? I've tried reverse pull-ups but it doesn't seem like I'm progressing at all still =x
Do you have a doorway? They have ones that specifically fit into your doorway. If not, then you can try the reverse pull-up(you just need a bar and some chairs or something for support) or Dumbbell rows I guess.cybamerc said:Is there no alternative to the pull-up bar? I just don't have a place to install such a thing.
cybamerc said:Is there no alternative to the pull-up bar? I just don't have a place to install such a thing.
Lebron said:Do you have a doorway? They have ones that specifically fit into your doorway. If not, then you can try the reverse pull-up(you just need a bar and some chairs or something for support) or Dumbbell rows I guess.
Also, I just finished my first day. That damn thing almost killed me. I was laid out on the floor for like 10mins, couldn't move at all. My dog just came and laid down beside me while I tried to regain movement :lol
I messed up trying to keep up with them in the beginning. I was like, psh, I can do 30 pull-ups/sit ups/etc. Little did I know of how many sets and variations they would do. Yeah, after today I will pace. I'm just doing 5-10 each time
Trax416 said:I don't plan on doing this because I have my own routine, but here is my question for those who did.
What do they tell you to do when the 90 days are up? Do they have a long term plan for everyone?
Also to the guy who said he liked it because they didn't try to sell it to you and say things like "be in shape spending just 30 minutes a day etc..". Maybe you should check their site, thats all they do. Their entire website is just marketing shit. :lol
idk, i just assume that once im done with it im gonna start all over againTrax416 said:I don't plan on doing this because I have my own routine, but here is my question for those who did.
What do they tell you to do when the 90 days are up? Do they have a long term plan for everyone?
Also to the guy who said he liked it because they didn't try to sell it to you and say things like "be in shape spending just 30 minutes a day etc..". Maybe you should check their site, thats all they do. Their entire website is just marketing shit. :lol
Meatpuppet said:Going to start tonight if possible. Have watched through some of the videos and somewhat concerned that the plyo workout looks a bit easy. I guess if I up the intensity over what they are doing (for the most part) in the video it should be fine.
Trax416 said:I don't plan on doing this because I have my own routine, but here is my question for those who did.
What do they tell you to do when the 90 days are up? Do they have a long term plan for everyone?
Also to the guy who said he liked it because they didn't try to sell it to you and say things like "be in shape spending just 30 minutes a day etc..". Maybe you should check their site, thats all they do. Their entire website is just marketing shit. :lol
If you did Chest/Back that's normal, but it should be your arms, your chest, your upper back and possibly your abs if you followed it with Ab Ripper.lbcyalater said:OK, so I just did my first day yesterday...seriously am I supposed to be this sore? Am I doing something wrong or is this just the norm for getting into it? The only thing seems to be my arms, I cant seem to bend them all the way in today and lots of pain.
Help me GAF!
If you aren't sore after a workout, then you're doing it wrong. And yes, the day after is normally the worst.lbcyalater said:OK, so I just did my first day yesterday...seriously am I supposed to be this sore? Am I doing something wrong or is this just the norm for getting into it? The only thing seems to be my arms, I cant seem to bend them all the way in today and lots of pain.
Help me GAF!
lbcyalater said:OK, so I just did my first day yesterday...seriously am I supposed to be this sore? Am I doing something wrong or is this just the norm for getting into it? The only thing seems to be my arms, I cant seem to bend them all the way in today and lots of pain.
Help me GAF!
Did you do shoulders/arms or something? The chest/back shouldn't make you feel that way but it's very likely the arms workout will, i'm expecting it as I'm doing that workout today.lbcyalater said:I would normaly agree that being sore after a workout is good but this is rediculous, I cant bend my arm more than 40 degrees...its like its stuck. I am starting to think there is ONE muscle that I worked out in this routine that I have never used.
I know some claim the "muscle confusion" thing is BS but it's just a fancy way of saying your muscles do get used to doing the same movements and thus get less sore. When you do Phase II you'll be surprised that you may actually be MORE sore in your chest, etc. than you were during Phase I due to the change in routine.silvon said:I was very sore after most of my first week workouts, but I feel significantly less sore on the second week... is this because my body's adjusting to the workout, or am I not pushing myself hard enough?
no I actually did chest/back but what I dont get is why they dont call it arms too with all the push ups and pull up you have to donegreenfield said:Did you do shoulders/arms or something? The chest/back shouldn't make you feel that way but it's very likely the arms workout will, i'm expecting it as I'm doing that workout today.
True, you do get some shoulder and tricep work with it, mine are currently quite sore so I'm dreading arms tonight but I don't feel anything in my biceps. Next week you probably wont'feel much in your arms after chest/back.lbcyalater said:no I actually did chest/back but what I dont get is why they dont call it arms too with all the push ups and pull up you have to do
so just after one week I wont feal much huh? some how I find that hard to believe lolnegreenfield said:True, you do get some shoulder and tricep work with it, mine are currently quite sore so I'm dreading arms tonight but I don't feel anything in my biceps. Next week you probably wont'feel much in your arms after chest/back.
silvon said:I was very sore after most of my first week workouts, but I feel significantly less sore on the second week... is this because my body's adjusting to the workout, or am I not pushing myself hard enough?