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[VGEsoterica]

I do enjoy a good Analogue product; I have a Pocket and two diff FPGA consoles from them...but sometimes it can be quite frustrating. Constant missed ship dates, waiting months past pre-order delivery estimates to received products and products that were promised support back in 2022 that still to this day have not come through (DAC support for Pocket)

Great company but lately it feels like their communication has been minimal to non-existent and a lot of the promised features and ship dates just don't

and trust me...not surprised. That is their reputation. But lately its been feeling like its getting old

 

[nkarafo]

Well, they promised a 100% compatible/accurate N64. That's not gonna happen any time soon.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

I think Taki from MisterPi will take the reigns from Analogue.

 

[Chittagong]

This has been the case forever.

I once made a thread about their constant missed promises on GAF. Must have been the NES era. Creepily the founder of Analogue PM’d me addressing me with my real name. Turns out I had linked an image that was tagged with my Analogue newsletter account.

I love their products and aesthetics, but the guy definitely isn’t helping his own reputation.

EDIT: wow, it’s been a decade like that

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/analogue-nt-500-hdmi-nes-gets-4th-delay-to-april-2015-more-shady-broken-promises.983675/

 

[AngelMuffin]

Crowd funding with multiple delays & next to no communication is basically their business model at this point. Love thier products, but loathe the company.

 

[JORMBO]

They've never had much communication. Their products always sell out quickly so they don't feel they have to care about customer service at all.

 

[Yoda]

They could scale but seem to have no interest. Might be intentional to keep the company small -> not worth \Nintendo's legal department's ire. In general I think any lawsuit wouldn't actually land, but Analogue probably doesn't have the $ to defend.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

Analogue's always been a pain in the ass, but it's more or less justified by the quality of the end product. I am annoyed that the DAC hasn't come back in years.

 

[JackHanma]

Speaking of which, is there any game play footage of this thing?

 

[Ozzie666]

The DAC is probably their biggest fail really. Delays I can understand. It would be nice if they could issue more of their older products. I wound guess if the analogue 3D and its scaling is good they will revise their older consoles. Rerelease with built in 4K.

Their products are usually of great quality and feel. Just need to work on longer support.

 

[diffusionx]

The SNES and Genesis systems they made are legitimately great, and the Pocket is very good, but it seems like other companies have figured it out and catching up to them. I don't think that they are going to hold on to this niche for much longer.

 

[Chittagong]

What I really don’t get is that how bad are they in business if they need to run stealth kickstarters for a decade? Like, how can’t they figure out their cashflow to allow for R&D? Given how their existing products seem to sell well, it’s just weird.

I kinda get it with the first Analogue NT being a moonshot - they made cool product photos, promised stuff, collected preorder money, and at apparent great pain, eventually made the product they promised. But to be doing the same routine a decade later is just bad management, which leads to bad PR.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

Well, they promised a 100% compatible/accurate N64. That's not gonna happen any time soon.

i preordered one and i dont expect they'll hit that mark.

like if i bust out turok2, go into 2-player multiplayer and use in-game cheats to load SP levels, essentially enabling local coop... will it perform the exact same at real hardware? bugs and all?

kinda bought one to find out.
plus it looks sexy.
plus 4k ha.

 

[kevboard]

Well, they promised a 100% compatible/accurate N64. That's not gonna happen any time soon.

pretty sure even the MisterFPGA core already has 99% compatibility... so not sure why you would say that

 

[baphomet]

pretty sure even the MisterFPGA core already has 99% compatibility... so not sure why you would say that

Compatibility and accuracy aren't the same thing.

 

[Dacvak]

This is pretty par for the course with Analogue. They make great products, but both the hardware and software always take 3x the time they say it will.

I love their products, I hate their company.

 

[kevboard]

Compatibility and accuracy aren't the same thing.

I heard only good things about the Mister core. pretty sure it's highly accurate as well

 

[awwr999999]

The SNES and Genesis systems they made are legitimately great, and the Pocket is very good, but it seems like other companies have figured it out and catching up to them. I don't think that they are going to hold on to this niche for much longer.

Their SNES clone could have easily been the future of independent gaming and they dropped the ball.
They could have legally owned an online SNES platform that operates on SNES HW.
Build the FGPA into an ARM board with 2GB of NVME storage and wifi/ethernet.
Open the platform to studios with the lowest game development cost and fastest game development time of any modern platform.
Games would have zero load time, take up very little storage space and sell for the same price as Switch/PS5 games with zero 2nd hand physical resale.
Studios today would have every advantage over studios that made games during the SNES era with no cartridge expenses or strict Nintendo policies getting in the way.
Nintendo could do exactly the same thing with branded HW for much less money but would never be able to stop whatever Analogue starts.
Objectively it's an incredibly rare opportunity to own a modernized version of one of the most beloved platforms of all time.

 

[baphomet]

I heard only good things about the Mister core. pretty sure it's highly accurate as well

It's not. There's still games that don't work and tons of bugs/non-accurate stuff.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

This is one reason why I’m not interested in their products.
People can keep waiting. Meanwhile I’m playing N64 on my Mister Pi that cost less than this and takes much, much less space, plus it gets all of the other cores after the initial setup instead of having to wait for the community to “jailbreak” it like it always is with Analogue’s systems.

 

[kevboard]

It's not. There's still games that don't work and tons of bugs/non-accurate stuff.

so, if the stuff I found after a quick google search are to be believed, it has a 100% compatibility status. I haven't found a list with issue or anything, but it seems to at least play every commercially released game.

and this is a non-profit hobby development as well, while Analogue has people developing their cores as a job.

 

[Spukc]

People complaining about analogue always give me this cartman waiting for the wii vibes.

It’s not like all of their products have been complete shit. Well the dac i guess. And shipping is fucking expensive to europe.

It will come out eventually. But the analogue pocket really impressed me. So i don’t mind delays as long if it’s good
If you can’t wait for it.. try the core on your Mister or do that misterpi thing.

 

[SidViscous]

The hardware will be sat in a warehouse somewhere without any firmware.

Making a cycle accurate FPGA N64 core and a decent 4k upscaler on the same FPGA chip is super hard.

 

[BlackTron]

Their SNES clone could have easily been the future of independent gaming and they dropped the ball.
They could have legally owned an online SNES platform that operates on SNES HW.
Build the FGPA into an ARM board with 2GB of NVME storage and wifi/ethernet.
Open the platform to studios with the lowest game development cost and fastest game development time of any modern platform.
Games would have zero load time, take up very little storage space and sell for the same price as Switch/PS5 games with zero 2nd hand physical resale.
Studios today would have every advantage over studios that made games during the SNES era with no cartridge expenses or strict Nintendo policies getting in the way.
Nintendo could do exactly the same thing with branded HW for much less money but would never be able to stop whatever Analogue starts.
Objectively it's an incredibly rare opportunity to own a modernized version of one of the most beloved platforms of all time.

So you're saying make a SNES clone with internet to attract developers to make SNES grade games that people will buy for the cost of Switch/PS5 games, after buying a dedicated hardware, while you can already get SNES style games on Switch and PS5 for a fraction of the price. Once it becomes successful, sit back and rake in profits while Nintendo's lawyers do absolutely nothing.

Is there a way for me to invest?

 

[VGEsoterica]

This has been the case forever.

I once made a thread about their constant missed promises on GAF. Must have been the NES era. Creepily the founder of Analogue PM’d me addressing me with my real name. Turns out I had linked an image that was tagged with my Analogue newsletter account.

I love their products and aesthetics, but the guy definitely isn’t helping his own reputation.

EDIT: wow, it’s been a decade like that

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/analogue-nt-500-hdmi-nes-gets-4th-delay-to-april-2015-more-shady-broken-promises.983675/

well thats some weird shit

 

[SweetTooth]

I'm always amazed that people still believe these obvious scams in this connected age

 

[rabbity-thing]

I'm always amazed that people still believe these obvious scams in this connected age

What? A company with a track record of best-in-class retro systems using hardware emulation is an obvious scam now? They might be aloof and miss deadlines, and such practices shouldn't be forgiven, but that hardly makes this endeavor a scam.

Hands down, if one wants to use physical carts on an unmodded HD device that doesn't have to dump a rom first, Analogue has the best products available. In this niche space, absolutely nothing, NOTHING, bests the NT Mini, Super NT, Mega SG, Duo, and Pocket. Pair these bad boys with an Everdrive, and, for those that don't want to tinker with a Mister, you've got the perfect way to play retro games.

I'm all for being critical of a company's failings, but let's not outright misrepresent things here. Analogue is not a scam. The 3D may end up failing to deliver on the promise, but that's not the same as a scam. Scams, from the outset, promise something that they never intend to deliver on. I fully believe that Analog believes they can pull this off. Whether or not they can... We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[nkarafo]

pretty sure even the MisterFPGA core already has 99% compatibility... so not sure why you would say that

Even hacky emulators like Mupen have 100% compatibility. But the timings and accuracy are wrong. Mister and Ares are better but still far from perfect.

 

[VGEsoterica]

I'm always amazed that people still believe these obvious scams in this connected age

far from a scam. Their customer service may be lacking but its a real company delivering real products

 

[Blitzkrieg!]

Analogue is

This has been the case forever.

I once made a thread about their constant missed promises on GAF. Must have been the NES era. Creepily the founder of Analogue PM’d me addressing me with my real name. Turns out I had linked an image that was tagged with my Analogue newsletter account.

I love their products and aesthetics, but the guy definitely isn’t helping his own reputation.

EDIT: wow, it’s been a decade like that

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/analogue-nt-500-hdmi-nes-gets-4th-delay-to-april-2015-more-shady-broken-promises.983675/

Jesus, what a fucking creep. The company always felt to me like it was run by cringe, elitist Redditors. Thankfully, the idea of hardware emulating 30 year old consoles has never appealed to me.

 

[Kagoshima_Luke]

I have an Analogue Duo that I use to avoid wear and tear on my Duo-R. No complaints so far, at with the console itself.