CassidyIzABeast
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He just gonna have to hold that L.
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White news anchor uses n-word, gets fired, black anchors does same is spared, sues
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Describe to me your utopia so I can flee the madness of this country. Which uncharted island is yours? All I need is coordinates.
He can say 'nigger' free of consequence in his homeland. LMAO
Yes that part of the tale is interesting:
How could this have happened? Perhaps a jealous co-worker? The usage of the N-word should not beget attempts on people's lives, despite how vile it may be. This should have began and ended privately.
This.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Is "we" referring to him and his colleagues, or white people? I'm inclined to believe it's the latter but either way its hard for me to get outraged about any of this.
His colleagues are either total arseholes or there is some history there which caused them to react in the manner that they did.
Also, at some point he should have realised that with people after his head he should have stopped doubling down and saying "nigger" when asked what happened in the meeting. It's not the time to try and make some a point, just say "the n-word" even if you think it's silly.
His colleagues are either total arseholes or there is some history there which caused them to react in the manner that they did.
Also, at some point he should have realised that with people after his head he should have stopped doubling down and saying "nigger" when asked what happened in the meeting. It's not the time to try and make some a point, just say "the n-word" even if you think it's silly.
The Faceless Master
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ZackieChan
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I saw this scene in 30 Rock, right?!
Fucking Philly. And hell, nobody even watches Fox29 anyway, it's all about NBC10
I grew up watching Fox29. It's where I watched The Simpsons and Married With Children. So good.
The Faceless Master
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in this context?
the context we have here is he said Does this mean we can finally say the word n-----? in a crowded room. everyone agrees to this.
then he claims that the other anchor said it to him when the two of them spoke later. she denies that.
BronsonLee
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Well I mainly meant the local news. It's barfmcbarf
Feel the Swift
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adamsappel
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I personally wouldn't, but I also wouldn't have made the first joke, either. He didn't do himself any favors by not substituting "the N-word" in his retelling (even though I subscribe to the Louis CK line on that). But I think if you're being asked what you said, and you repeat it verbatim, it's not right to punish that instance. Has it become a Word-That-Must-Not-Be-Named?
Anton Sugar
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BeatResetsTheWorld
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Dear white people,
How about we make a trade? You get to say nigger and we get to walk around without being profiled. Seems fair enough, right? Considering we're talking about things we aren't able to do, right? Cool. No takebacks. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Black people
How about we make a trade? You get to say nigger and we get to walk around without being profiled. Seems fair enough, right? Considering we're talking about things we aren't able to do, right? Cool. No takebacks. Thanks.
Sincerely,
Black people
Zvonimir Boban
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That's just ridiculous. There is a difference between Chris Rock joking about the difference between black people and niggers and some random white guy trying to make that kind of joke.
Just like I can use "Paki" ironically but if someone who isn't Asian says it people will flip out.
MHWilliams
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No, that's called language and social context.
I can't call your wife or husband "honey", in most situations. This is an understood thing, one without a charged history. Yet people get confused when it comes to the n-word.
Shamrock7r
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I think most reasonable "white people" want the word to die off rather than have the ability to say it. It sounds like this guy was maybe cracking a joke. Unreasonable, unproffesional and stupid if that is the case.
AbortedWalrusFetus
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But in Philly everyone gets called hon or honey all the time.
PseudoKirby
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the word should be abolished regardless of who uses it. TBH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_0mSuUNVRE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_0mSuUNVRE
A man would not call another man's wife honey in most situations, and ESPECIALLY not in front of that woman's husband.
I don't know where they do that in Philly.
Anton Sugar
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This doesn't work because we don't live and interact in a vacuum free from historical and social context.
BeatResetsTheWorld
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Yeah, I know, but there are those who also just want to be able to say it for some bizarre reason.
MHWilliams brings up an excellent point. No one gives a shit that they can't call other people's spouses "babe" or other affectionate terms, but when it comes to "nigger" all of a sudden people make a big deal out of it
Why does context not count when it comes to race?
Zvonimir Boban
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Two people comparing their dieting stories "God, we're still such fat fucks eh?"
Later on they're at the supermarket doing the groceries and the cashier asks them "Are you sure you fat fucks don't want to get the whole-wheat pasta instead?"
Difference should be abundantly clear.
Later on they're at the supermarket doing the groceries and the cashier asks them "Are you sure you fat fucks don't want to get the whole-wheat pasta instead?"
Difference should be abundantly clear.
BronsonLee
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Nah man it's 'jawn' for everything ever in Philly
Don't get me started.
Why is should be abolished?
And more importantly why is there a How I Meet your mother preview when you quote your link?
No, it's applying an even hand. If, barring justifiable context, you lack the common sense and restraint to keep yourself using from racially charged words in a professional environment, especially if the word is commonly associated with hate speech, then regardless of whether or not you're a part of the same group that word is aimed at, you deserve to be on the receiving end of the exact same consequences if it were anyone else.
The workplace does not fall under your private sphere of conduct. You are expected to be a professional.
BronsonLee
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The worst thing Philadelphia has ever done is make jawn real
Shamrock7r
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I see your point and what Williams said. A difference though, is I'm under the impression that it wouldn't be regarded as acceptable if 2 white people were using the n-word in the same context as your "fat fuck" scenario.
Overall I do think the debate over this specific word and its usage holds a different weight because of the historical context behind the word.
SirMossyBloke
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How about no one uses that stupid fucking word, regardless of colour. Its just an awful word with an awful history and it needs to die as much as racial profiling does.
By far the worst atrocity that has occurred within the city.
ZackieChan
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I only care about "Hurricane" Schwartz. Whenever I go home for holidays it's a big nostalgia shot that all these people are still doing the local Philly news.
Who are you to say that word is stupid? Who are you to completely disregard its context?
Jawn is fine. The worst thing Philly has ever done is convince the world that Philly Cheese Steaks are a thing that you should want to eat.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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The bit about fearing for their lives and safety is duck but people have to learn to prioritize their livelihood over the allure of busting out "nigger"
PseudoKirby
Banned
the word is so vile and hateful, I dont care what it turned into or who owns it, it represents a horrible time and place.
its widespread use in rap culture has only led non-black people to use it so casually.
Honestly, regardless of WHO says it, this word shouldn't be used. Black, white, whatever, this just confirms that whether or not people consider to not be racist if one race has no-right to use a hurtful word, it's a slur all in the same.
His suit makes a point in that, while this doesn't pardon his termination, if it is inappropriate to say in a work place it should be for every employee.
Unfortunately "buuuut Moooom, he said it first!" doesn't work for these sorts of appeals, racial or not.
His suit makes a point in that, while this doesn't pardon his termination, if it is inappropriate to say in a work place it should be for every employee.
Unfortunately "buuuut Moooom, he said it first!" doesn't work for these sorts of appeals, racial or not.
SirMossyBloke
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Disregard? Can you read?
jamesinclair
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How is a news reporter asking if he can use the word in a news report about the word illogical?
And then being told he can't use the word when in a session about the use of the word?
Aquamarine
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Another example:
A student is in a study group. He is with his peers. "I'm such a fucking dumbass" proclaims the kid to his friends as he gets an answer wrong.
The same kid gets the same answer wrong when he is called in by a teacher. "Can I call you a fucking dumbass now?," the teacher quips when he gets it incorrect.
One is appropriate, the other is not.
Yes. So answer the question.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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I think they were using it pre-Sugar Hill Gang
SirMossyBloke
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You can't read, obviously, it has a bad history.
Edit: also there's a lot of people saying the same thing as I am, why don't you grill them too.
Gordon Shumway
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How Dare you? That is none other than Sir Mossy Bloke! That tone..for shame..
MHWilliams
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Honestly, if you want to use more colloquial version by yourself (rocking to a Kendrick rap or something) or with close friends, I don't particularly care. No one would even know. It's when people get into larger social situations that they trip up, use it, and get themselves in trouble.
Hence, I tend to just avoid the word altogether.
Ingueferroque
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But he was obviously asking the question in relation to the N word 'burial' that they were discussing. He was also ASKING if they could actually say it.
Firing him over this, and claiming to fear your life over him saying it (in this context) is absolutely ridiculous. And I hope he wins his lawsuit.
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