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Winter of Anime 2013 |OT -4| It's not my fault!
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New Gargantia PV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDz7FX-GRus
Jex
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That camera rotation is so god damn juddery it hurts.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
What is this magical place? Something seems different here. It's beautiful and serene. Have we made it too the promised land?
Maybe it'll look better when it airs? Could be unfinished!
Hahaha! I can't even say that with a straight face myself. 
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
lol repeated ad nauseam. ^^;
Dedication Through Light
Member
That's what happened at the end of the last ot? I missed the chance to post the best sfw ficlet of fall 2012.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
That scene certainly looks not contrived at all.
Master Milk
Member
I need an S3 for Medaka.
I guess this is just the perfect time for me to post the worldwide moe train anthem character albums sung by various girls, Train to Train.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun 12-13
So uh...there's going to be a second season, right? Because otherwise I feel a bit ripped off. ;_;
So uh...there's going to be a second season, right? Because otherwise I feel a bit ripped off. ;_;
Dedication Through Light
Member
Theres going to be an ova.
DrForester
Kills Photobucket
I really need to post more in the anime thread.
We made it! *throws confetti*
*looks at thread title again*
Hyyyyyyype!
Oh my.
I was going to post Haruka Ouma from Guilty Crown, but I fell asleep.
Yum.
*looks at thread title again*
Hyyyyyyype!
2 TRAIN 2 SCARF
RAIL WARS ON RAILS
Oh my.
I was going to post Haruka Ouma from Guilty Crown, but I fell asleep.
Yum.
chickdigger802
Banned
That bum.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
So with the new Gargantia PV, I was thinking about the mecha design a bit, and also about what Branduil was saying about the uncomfortable abundance of 3DCG mecha animation in newer shows. And then I thought about it some more, and I realized that as far as some of the specific shows we're talking about, there's actually some sort of connection which explains the more frequent use of CG in mechanical stuff, aside from the previously discussed factors.
Makoto Ishiwata seems to be a common factor in several of the more... notable (?) recent projects with mecha or complex "mechanical" designs - Fate/Zero, Robotics;Notes, Psycho-Pass, Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet, and Valvrave the Liberator. He's a designer on all these shows, in various different capacities. On Fate/Zero he was one of the additional designers, probably responsible for some of the guns and vehicles. On Robotics;Notes, Gargantia, and Valvrave, he's the original or main mecha designer. For Psycho-Pass he designed the Dominator gun.
So who exactly is he? And how is it that his only previous involvement in anime before all this recent work, is being the mechanical designer for Blassreiter over 4 years ago? Well, for those familiar with these projects, the connection should be rather obvious - Nitro-Plus. Aside from Valvrave, every single one of those projects including Blassreiter are Nitro-Plus projects, either by involvement of Urobuchi, or an adaptation of an existing Nitro-Plus work.
Ishiwata has a design studio called Polygon Bangcho, which specializes in design and CG work. His main client is Nitro-Plus, and he has been involved in many of their game projects over the years. As Nitro-Plus got more popular outside of the Visual Novel industry, it seems Ishiwata did as well. He now has much more designer cred, and he's even able to land a major new Sunrise project without Nitro-Plus' involvement. It's pretty interesting to see how a relatively obscure designer who previously didn't even work in the anime industry managed to get successful by association with the company he works with.
It's of course not surprising that his designs lend themselves naturally to CG given the sort of design background he has. So in these cases, it might not be so much that the studios are unable to find mechanical animators for these projects, but rather the designs themselves helped determine the form of mechanical animation for the shows.
It would also explain why people who dislike one of the designs in these shows tend to have a negative opinion of all the designs in the other shows, since it's the same guy doing them.
Makoto Ishiwata seems to be a common factor in several of the more... notable (?) recent projects with mecha or complex "mechanical" designs - Fate/Zero, Robotics;Notes, Psycho-Pass, Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet, and Valvrave the Liberator. He's a designer on all these shows, in various different capacities. On Fate/Zero he was one of the additional designers, probably responsible for some of the guns and vehicles. On Robotics;Notes, Gargantia, and Valvrave, he's the original or main mecha designer. For Psycho-Pass he designed the Dominator gun.
So who exactly is he? And how is it that his only previous involvement in anime before all this recent work, is being the mechanical designer for Blassreiter over 4 years ago? Well, for those familiar with these projects, the connection should be rather obvious - Nitro-Plus. Aside from Valvrave, every single one of those projects including Blassreiter are Nitro-Plus projects, either by involvement of Urobuchi, or an adaptation of an existing Nitro-Plus work.
Ishiwata has a design studio called Polygon Bangcho, which specializes in design and CG work. His main client is Nitro-Plus, and he has been involved in many of their game projects over the years. As Nitro-Plus got more popular outside of the Visual Novel industry, it seems Ishiwata did as well. He now has much more designer cred, and he's even able to land a major new Sunrise project without Nitro-Plus' involvement. It's pretty interesting to see how a relatively obscure designer who previously didn't even work in the anime industry managed to get successful by association with the company he works with.
It's of course not surprising that his designs lend themselves naturally to CG given the sort of design background he has. So in these cases, it might not be so much that the studios are unable to find mechanical animators for these projects, but rather the designs themselves helped determine the form of mechanical animation for the shows.
It would also explain why people who dislike one of the designs in these shows tend to have a negative opinion of all the designs in the other shows, since it's the same guy doing them.
Jex
Member
Maybe it'll look better when it airs? Could be unfinished!
Hahaha! I can't even say that with a straight face myself.
What happened to you man, you used to be able to lie
Jex
Member
That's more like rubbing salt in the wound.
To me it still gives off some Xam'd vibes, albeit crappy ones.
Wow, if you tell me this is written by Gen Urobuchi I wouldn't believe it.
Gotta give Production I.G credit for one thing, they know how to draw sexy women figures as evident in Guilty crown and Psycho pass. In fact they should do Rail War!
It's not OT4, look closer.
http://countdown.mandragon.info/
Duckroll is trying to make it difficult for us to reach Winter OT4 since it will now require 8 threads.
I didn't get it either. Then I watched Medaka Box Abnormal. I'm not saying you should, because the show isn't very good, but the final episode which is totally stand alone and totally random was very entertaining. This is a... homage of sorts.
Nah, it actually continues to go down. -5, -6, -7, etc. Lulz.
That's what I was looking for.
Thanks.
Animegaf.
Tamako Market: UNLIMITED WAIFU WORKS!
Jex
Member
This should actually just be in the OP. As should the link to the IRC, as it usually is.
Ultimadrago
Member
You missed the party.
Jex
Member
You know, the usual.
There should also be a simulcast list and other useful information too. Unfortunately, Kumagawa disagreed. We'll just have to wait until he calms down or something. Remember,『It's not his fault!』
So it's ANOTHER slice of life? But on a market.
NONONONO... I said I won't watch.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Someone set up us the bomb.
Crash Station
Member
I wake up to Kumagawa erasing the existence of OT4. Does his evil know no bounds!? I bet he also erased the work done on the winter OT, so now we have to stick to that chart for the whole season.
Thanks for the gift duckroll.
Thanks for the gift duckroll.
Jex
Member
Winter season is truly backlog season.
What shows were sorted out for the group backlog, anyway?
I'm going to watch Trepeze and Mononoke as promised. I dunno if anyone is going to watch them with me. I haven't decided when I'll start yet though. In general, the "planning" for Winter is a mess because many of the good shows in Spring are still airing, most of Winter shows suck, and there were a lot of interesting announcements for Spring. So I don't think we really reached much of a consensus on anything. Then dresden stabbed me in the back with the thread change!
Beach episode confirmed?!
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