Dr. Wilkinson
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This. And also for many other reasons that have been discussed to death for years.
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With Xbox consoles seemingly dead, should Nintendo re-enter the home-only console market?
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HRK69
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Unknown?
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Obviously he wants Nintendo to make a home console. You looked at a TV powered by a tablet, he wants something that has power.
Woopah
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They made one ecosystem to target both audiences but I don't think anything was cannibalised. They are still selling software and hardware to the Wii U and 3DS audience, plus reclaiming some of the Wii audience they lost.
LazyParrot
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Why would Nintendo care? Microsoft has never been a threat to them.
Iced Arcade
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noob smokes
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No cuz that means theyll have to spec up & directly compete against playstation & that dont usually end up well for them
Like ps1/2 days nintendo was gettin whipped it was the handheld/hybrids that saved them
Like ps1/2 days nintendo was gettin whipped it was the handheld/hybrids that saved them
I collect VHS tapes
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you make the dumbest threads dude
MrJangles
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They could if they are willing to spend $2-3 billion in R&D which they won't.
SkylineRKR
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Why on earth would they?
Nintendo doesn't need to deliver Naughty Dog levels of fidelity to be succesful. They exited the spec wars for a reason and sell gangbusters as is. They release games for Tegra 3 graphics, and sell them for a decade at full price.
Sony meanwhile is locked into this need of improving tech each time, ramping up development budgets in the process.
Nintendo doesn't need to deliver Naughty Dog levels of fidelity to be succesful. They exited the spec wars for a reason and sell gangbusters as is. They release games for Tegra 3 graphics, and sell them for a decade at full price.
Sony meanwhile is locked into this need of improving tech each time, ramping up development budgets in the process.
Effigenius
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Nintendo is on pace to have the best selling console of all time that has a very strong attach rate. So no, I think flushing that all away and going backwards to make a non hybrid console would be monumentally stupid of them
GoldenEye98
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Nothing is really stopping hem from just releasing a Switch 2 box that just runs in docked mode and then throw in a pro controller...
LordOcidax
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LectureMaster
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Syphon Filter
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nintendo is in the home console market, just because they give you a choice for portable doesn't mean its not a home console.
Davevil
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Switch is not a home console, it is a portal console that you can attach to an external screen if you want
RoadHazard
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Why would they? Give me a single reason.
namenotfound
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Among their best selling home/handheld consoles, the only one that compares well with their handhelds is the Wii. Consider that the Xbox console is flailing but the PS5 isn't outselling the PS4 time aligned, why would Nintendo think there's much demand from the former and current Xbox customer base to buy into another pure home console? If you're Nintendo and you look at 2004-2017, would they think that they would sell more hardware and software with a single platform or Wii+DS or Wii+3DS? The markets changed a lot since 2004 and still a lot since Wii U 2012. They've already said to expect longer dev times as they move onto newer hardware so how much releases would they have to market for either platforms a year
Kvally
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lol wut? Xbox isn’t going out of the console business. You kids need a new shtick.When Microsoft entered the home console market back in 2001, this no doubt came to severe detriment to Nintendo’s home console business.
While the NES, SNES and N64 were seen as successes, the GameCube and Wii U ended up being failures (Wii setting the trans).
With Microsoft seemingly to have now grown in the towel by becoming a third party publisher and their home console business looking precarious with no new competitors entering the fray, could it be time for Nintendo to exploit the market.
I see 2 options
1. A powerful console that goes toe to toe with PS5/PS6, it runs discs and has its own excsluives. It’s worth bearing in mind that when announcing the NX project Iwata’s aim was for Nintendo to combine their efforts to focus on a single platform.
2. A slightly more powerful Switch 2 that removes the screen. It can run Switch and Switch 2 games at 2160p/60fps and would have no exclusives.
What do you guys think considering neither Amazon, Apple, Tencent or Valve seem well suited to enter this market?
Woopah
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It still competes in that market.
The Switch appeals to the audience who bought a Wii for Wii Sports, Wii Fit and local multiplayer Mario Kart / Mario Party.
GigaBowser
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no just use dlss annnnd put the games on switch 2 too fats for console need to lie down
blacktout
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I don't think he understands that there's a difference between cannibalizing markets and consolidating them. Nintendo's software sales and profits this gen pretty clearly show that they've done the latter, not the former.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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Just produce a box that can be easily downscaled from to their handhelds power envelope. When Switch is 720p/30 it should be easy, cheap and lucrative to have something that does the same at 4K/60
REDRZA MWS
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By the poll results Nintendo can kick rocks. And everyone who voted “no”. Nintendo’s devs are master class. Their efforts shouldn’t be in vain. They should have modern hardware to work with. Not 2-3 generation behind toy filled gimmick bs. As long as their games are firewalled behind, dated, portable, weak, gimmicky hardware they won’t get a dime from me.
GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
hardware dont matter totks had waaaay more physics gameplay complexitimy on crud hardware then any ps5 xbox series
hououinkyouma00
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I think people have always overestimated how much Nintendo home consoles sell.What do you notice about this list for Nintendo?
No way in hell does Nintendo do a console without being a handheld hybrid
They won the 3rd and 4th generation of consoles though Sega did sell about 3/4 in the 4th gen. The 5th and 6th generations both saw Nintendo selling quite a bit less then before with the N64 being beaten 3:1 by PlayStation(even being beaten by the Saturn in Japan), and the GameCube being beat by over 7:1 by the PlayStation 2 and even being beat by the newcomer again with the Xbox outselling the GameCube. Now obviously the Wii won the 7th gen by about 14M, but with the WiiU they got outsold by the PS4 by nearly 9:1, and the Xbox One by over 4:1.
IMO the Wii was an outlier and the Switch is so successful because of the fact that it combines the home console and handheld sectors into one.
The smartest thing Nintendo can do is to continue the path that they are currently on, and there really isn't much point in designing a docked only model of the Switch 2 because they know that people will buy their console even if they don't care about handheld use.
GigaBowser
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lazy devs use unreal 5 dont know how to opertimize there games barely interactions
bitbydeath
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No.
Nintendo are doing great as they are, there is no need to change from their current strategy.
Nintendo are doing great as they are, there is no need to change from their current strategy.
Kacho
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Preach bruddah
Kvally
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Yes it is.
AngelMuffin
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Nah, I don’t see a valid business reason for them to do that. They’re coming off their most successful console ever & it’s because of the dual use capabilities of the system. They also don’t have to divide their development resources to focus on portable/home. What did they have, like 72 games that sold over 1M copies or something?
Codeblew
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You are still in phase 1, "Denial". You will get there someday buddy, I am rooting for you.
Xdrive05
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The only way this *could* be realistic would be an uncompromised T239 at max clock speeds in a dedicated console box with the excellent cooling that you can't get in a tablet form factor. They could double the clock speeds and performance and probably keep the price about the same, since the hardware won't have a screen, etc.
Would they actually do it though? No, almost certainly not.
Would they actually do it though? No, almost certainly not.
Gamerfan81
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Nah, continue as is. Nintendo has a winning formula, which is a hybrid console that focuses on gameplay and a unique visual art style for their games. Over 150 million hardware sales and over 1 billion in software sales. Also, since they are not focusing on power, it keeps development costs down. Furthermore, as an added bonus, they stay out of politics and social issues, which they have gone on record saying that they prefer to make fun gaming experiences.
Imo, it's Sony and MS that should be copying Nintendo and following their path.
Imo, it's Sony and MS that should be copying Nintendo and following their path.
Loomy
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You're a kid with a lemonade stand. 2 other neighbour kids have similar stands. One sells Red Bull and the other sells Monster Energy.
You just saw the kid selling Monster Energy throw a hissy fit, buy out all the cases of Prime and Celsius from the store, trip over their shoelace and knock over their stand. So now they've started giving cans of Monster, Prime, and Celsius to the Red Bull kid to sell for them.
None of that affected you because you sell lemonade and most people just want a cold lemonade instead of whatever the fuck Prime is. So you've been straight up thriving.
As a smart lemonade stand owner, you have 2 options:
You just saw the kid selling Monster Energy throw a hissy fit, buy out all the cases of Prime and Celsius from the store, trip over their shoelace and knock over their stand. So now they've started giving cans of Monster, Prime, and Celsius to the Red Bull kid to sell for them.
None of that affected you because you sell lemonade and most people just want a cold lemonade instead of whatever the fuck Prime is. So you've been straight up thriving.
As a smart lemonade stand owner, you have 2 options:
- Continue doing your thing and making a shit tonne of money
- Start an energy drink stand and hope you do better than the last clueless idiot.
hinch7
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No, Nintendo were struggling keeping two platforms with content (3DS and Wii U). Better to have one. Their portable consoles >>>>>> home consoles in terms of popularity as well.
Also Microsoft hasn't left the console space yet. They're still in it for another round - or so people say.
Also Microsoft hasn't left the console space yet. They're still in it for another round - or so people say.
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