ryutaro's mama
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I like how WW has a rotten symbol next to it with a 92% score.
xaoslug showing his bias.
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Wkd BO 0623-2517 - Transformers snore than meets the eye, Woman keeps up with Cars
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xaoslug showing his bias.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Cinemascores are really only useful when comparing to films in the same series or genre. Here's the Cinemascores for the other TF films
1: A
2: B+
3: A
4: A-
Also, B+ is a pretty bad score for a summer blockbuster.
I know, but someone is voting for it on there and making it seem better than it actually is. SOMEONE likes these movies enough to rate it highly lol
Ah, I see thanks
Cinemascore for blockbusters operates on the IGN scale
A+ = Great to Amazing
A = Good to Great
A- = Decent to Good
B+ = Below Average
B and Lower = Terrible
Glass Rebel
Member
Bummer, I didn't know Star Trek Beyond didn't even break $400m.
Less than Ant-Man! What a time to be alive.
I mean, it's not trash. It's a measure of how well the film connected with the audience who paid to see it.
You would expect at this point that those walking into a Bayformers movie 1) Know what they are in for 2) probably like it.
A B+ score for a 5th movie in a series with a pretty self-selected audience is actually pretty shit.
Z
ZombieFred
Unconfirmed Member
It's crazy looking at the number of screens WW still has and only lost 80 or so cinemas in its fourth running week.
God damn.
God damn.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
It got ignored. I think the gap between films isn't doing them any favors. 4 years between Star Trek and Into Darkness, then another 3 years for Beyond. It was reviewing really well, just seems like the audience wasn't interested. The marketing didn't do it many favors. Lots of shots of characters mugging for the camera in a "They're back!" kinda way. I get that it's Star Trek and this is the third film, but you still gotta sell it.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Mark Wahlberg depending on Asian audience to save his move. Only in Hollywood.
It's a fun movie, just in ways it didn't really intend. It's summer schlock and some of the best unintentional comedy I've seen in a while.
Given the reportedly low budget and that this was bound for direct to video just a short while ago, the release is definitely a success.
Yeah, it's interesting looking at how theaters made room for Transformers. They dropped It Comes at Night, Baywatch and The Mummy. It wouldn't make sense to cut Wonder Woman. Next couple weeks it will probably lose some theaters to make room, though. (It Comes at Night is gonna be basically out of theaters next week.)
I think it's going to have a baby box office return.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Dad joke/10
I'll take that as a compliment.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
Edgar Wright finally makes a very accessible movie and Sony releases it the week before their own Spider-Man.
Between this and GLOW, I've had my share of miscarriage jokes this weekend.
And they moved it to that day, it was suppose to come out a month ago
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
More like ironic considering he once blinded an Asian person.
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
But even then, the first two did pretty poorly worldwide compared to other franchises in the same budget range. I wonder why Trek has always had such a hard time breaking through outside of the US and the UK.
Star Trek 09:
Domestic: $257,730,019 66.8%
+ Foreign: $127,950,427 33.2%
Into Darkness:
Domestic: $228,778,661 48.9%
+ Foreign: $238,602,808 51.1%
Beyond:
Domestic: $158,848,340 46.2%
+ Foreign: $184,623,476 53.8%
Actually it was supposed to be an August film.
I knew it was a month in either direction, not everyone has an encyclopedic knowledge of movies Kswiss
ryutaro's mama
Member
Messofanego
Banned
Damn
I still think the release window was the final nail in the coffin for it. It got beat by Bourne in it's second weekend and after Suicide Squad in the third weekend it was over.
I think it would have done better in September or October, or even January for that matter.
Slayven, post if you're okay.
Wafflecakes
Member
I did a breakdown years ago on the IMDB forums, in 2012 I think, doing a study on how cinemascore correlates to review scores, opening weekends, grosses, and legs.
After looking at 100 films over 5 years I came to the conclusion that there was absolutely no meaningful correlation. Rolling a dice is about as accurate of a predictor as cinemascore. The sample size is too small and too biased.
Shame those forums are gone so I cannot search for it.
You just made the list
And you two just joined him
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
That's what Wahlberg believed, but the victim revealed in an interview that he had lost that eye during the Vietnam war.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Knuckle Sandwich
Member
I took my oldest to Wonder Woman for his b-day yesterday. That was the 4th time I saw it lol. It deserves all the success.
xaosslug
Member
fixded
Yep, can't release these movies in the summer anymore. October would be good.
Sony seem to enjoy learning nothing at this point.
Jeff Albertson
Member
It's funny, Wonder Woman is clearly a massive (and it sounds like fully deserved) success whilst Pirates from the outside has looked a bit of a flop but they look like both making similar, quite massive sums worldwide.
For some reason everything about Pirates feels like a failure but it's not that bad. You have to wonder if they go for one final fling focussing heavily on
I know compared to the others it's low and it was costly to make but it feels like they are guaranteed $500m worldwide without putting too much effort in
For some reason everything about Pirates feels like a failure but it's not that bad. You have to wonder if they go for one final fling focussing heavily on
Davey Jones
I know compared to the others it's low and it was costly to make but it feels like they are guaranteed $500m worldwide without putting too much effort in
Thewonandonly
Junior Member
Honestly he was the best part of them. He just had good charisma I think.
Sucks he is fucking nuts so no one wants to work with him because he is a damn fine actor exspecialky in fury 👌
They don't own the TV rights to Star Trek, only the movies. Which is part of Star Trek's problem, full stop. No one company holds it and is interested in growing it broadly.
Star Trek has never done well internationally, and their attempt to make it more palatable flopped. So I dunno what they do if it can't support a AAA budget but they're only interested in making AAA movies.
The story is kinda meh too ... I expected a better script from Simon Pegg
Having the crew stuck in a planet during 2/3 of the movie while the movie is called " Beyond ", it's very disappointing
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
It's about time people started voting with their wallets en masse and stopped funding the Bayformers dumpster fire.
Nice to see WW still showing off her legs. The film totally deserves it, especially considering the DCEU name was essentially mud before it came out.
Will say, I'm really saddened to have seen Captain Underpants to have dropped so low, despite coming out at the beginning of the month. It seems very likely to fall out of the top ten completely by next week. Good thing it was made on such a relatively low budget, otherwise this would be another massive L for DWA to hold.
Nice to see WW still showing off her legs. The film totally deserves it, especially considering the DCEU name was essentially mud before it came out.
Will say, I'm really saddened to have seen Captain Underpants to have dropped so low, despite coming out at the beginning of the month. It seems very likely to fall out of the top ten completely by next week. Good thing it was made on such a relatively low budget, otherwise this would be another massive L for DWA to hold.
Jon Carter
Member
The first Transformers movie I thought was actually good. The second one was the most boring, incoherent blockbuster I've seen in theaters. I haven't watched 3 in full but what I saw sucked. Haven't even bothered with the Mark Wahlberg ones as I find him unlikable and Shia was at the core of the franchise.
I think the franchise was successful in spite of Bay and not because of him. The guy was famous for over-the-top action, but there's been plenty of over-the-top action films in the past decade that are much better. His direction likes class and coherence, the scripts suck, and Shia and Megan were much more likable than the people they replaced them with. Well, Shia was more likable, but Megan Fox has a one-of-a-kind beauty that makes her hard to replace.
I think the franchise was successful in spite of Bay and not because of him. The guy was famous for over-the-top action, but there's been plenty of over-the-top action films in the past decade that are much better. His direction likes class and coherence, the scripts suck, and Shia and Megan were much more likable than the people they replaced them with. Well, Shia was more likable, but Megan Fox has a one-of-a-kind beauty that makes her hard to replace.
GabeTheGrouch76
Member
IIRC Simon Pegg didn't write Beyond's script from scratch, nor did he do it on his own devices. He and Doug Jung were brought in during production to re-write Roberto Orci's screenplay when the latter left, and Pegg was also told by the studio to make the story "more inclusive".
Word is he also had six weeks to finish it.