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WWDC12 Thread of iOS 6, Mac OS X Mountain Lion and iCloud
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I wonder if Google could have made more money longterm by continuing to partner with Apple and foregoing Android.
In a market with no Android, Apple would be overwhelmingly dominant, and all of those phones would be pumping money into Google for search, maps, and ads(iAds wouldn't exist either). Wouldn't that be greater than the paltry revenue they get from Android?
In a market with no Android, Apple would be overwhelmingly dominant, and all of those phones would be pumping money into Google for search, maps, and ads(iAds wouldn't exist either). Wouldn't that be greater than the paltry revenue they get from Android?
badcrumble
Member
It's a small audience, and no, if you look at their revenue breakdowns, Apple definitely does not need it.
I hope they update it, and I'm sure they will, but it's a workstation product and not a consumer product and isn't going to get treated like the four more important Mac lines.
Nokia and MS would have dominated if android wasn't there. Apple is just now getting into the market where android is. Seeing as how Nokia and MS both have mapping, search, and ads, it would have been on the same level.
Well, if they update the Mac Pro, they'll get back a lot of the pro users who had switched to Mac for motion picture editing. Especially indies.
FCP is dying fast, everyone is jumping on the Adobe bandwagon. They had that market and let it slip away without a fight.
badcrumble
Member
Right but that's like 2,000 people.
hyp
Member
I want a new Mac Pro as well. Been waiting a long time. I use mine for motion graphics and 3D animation, so it's definitely falling behind. not sure how I'd feel to have to revert to Windows. I'd probably have it as a dedicated Adobe/3D machine and have an iMac as my main computer for OSX.
I understand the "Pro" users don't bring in a lot of money, but we've been diehard Mac Pro users since the line existed. Hoping there is at least an ounce of care for us.
Might we might not see the new Maps app at WWDC?
Apple Will Ditch Google In New Maps App Later This Year [Report]
Apple Will Ditch Google In New Maps App Later This Year [Report]
iOS 5 wasn't released until October.
I know but, wouldn't they want to show off one of iOS 6's biggest features at WWDC?
But the article that it's sourced from says nothing that alludes to showing it off later in the year. Even mentioning that it could be previewed at WWDC.
I didn't fully read the article. I kinds skimmed it >_<
infiniteloop
Member
9to5mac have this box shot of a 13 inch MBP.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/06/05/decidedly-un-exciting-13-macbook-pro-spec-sheet-leaks/
Retina 15 inch only?
Goddamn the 13" MBP is their best selling model and has the worst screen in the entire lineup for 3 years running. Wtf Apple?
That is not an inspiring spec update.
So... If this is true then apple has the 13" air with the super thin design, no optical and decent screen and the 13" pro, which will be the same design for around 4 years now. Would they make a third 13" design that matches the leaked details with hi res screen, thinner, etc...
Hmm. Maybe apple is happy with the 13" air and doesn't want a 13" pro to get too close to it?
Or maybe this is a laptop they can sell for 800 bucks. Heh
So... If this is true then apple has the 13" air with the super thin design, no optical and decent screen and the 13" pro, which will be the same design for around 4 years now. Would they make a third 13" design that matches the leaked details with hi res screen, thinner, etc...
Hmm. Maybe apple is happy with the 13" air and doesn't want a 13" pro to get too close to it?
Or maybe this is a laptop they can sell for 800 bucks. Heh
jts
...hate me...
Um, I can imagine the 13" MBP being the odd one in the line-up, they won't update its form factor because the 13" MBA exists (but the 15" MBP will get updated), and eventually in the next update it will be altogether discontinued. By then the 13" Air will be a bit better, and it may or may not get a rebranding (or even the whole Macbook line which could be simply called Macbook).
Makes sanse?
Makes sanse?
And 11 and 13 inch air
that’d be pretty funny. I’m relatively pragmatic about all this. I just want a solution that works best for me and I don’t really care if it’s open or closed.
Nope, just attribution: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_License
But the ShareAlike license suggests something different:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/
That 'may' is modified by 'only' though. 'May only' means must.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
What I want:
13" Air HiDPI/Retina/whatever with no price increase
Something tells me I won't get what I want.
13" Air HiDPI/Retina/whatever with no price increase
Something tells me I won't get what I want.
May only means must? We must have learned english differently. They're clearly saying that if you distribute the work, it has to be under the same/similar license. Not that you have to distribute it in the first place.
Section 4: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/legalcode
Is it reasonable for me to expect the 11" Air w/ Retina to remain the same price? Because if not, I'll go ahead and get one now.
Id lineup to buy this.
If they are rolling ahead with these Sharp IGZO displays, they are not much more expensive.
I want a 13" laptop too but will only go back to the Air if they increase the RAM.
I figured that if you distribute an app, you're distributing the material. I don't dispute that they are allowed to not distribute it.
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
With only a week to go until announcements, I think it is in your best interest to wait to see what is announced. It is HIGHLY unlikely that the 11" Air will go up in price (there have been rumors that it could go down!) and you'll probably see performance gains regardless of whether or not it goes Retina.
Well, they're not actually modifying OSM data are they? They're using their own tiles on top of the data being retrieved over the air.
Either way, OSM seems to be fine with what Apple is doing in iPhoto. Here's what they say in their faq: http://blog.osmfoundation.org/faq/
I don't think Apple would have a problem with sharing OSM data they improve since they do that already with open source components in OS X/iOS. Just don't expect the tiles to be shared since those are original creations.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H3983ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng
I remember a work around somewhere but no sound
or
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H1824ZM/A/Moshi_Mini_DisplayPort_to_HDMI_Adapter?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng
or
http://www.kanexlive.com/xd
I'm just wondering if Apple is going to go in with these other Google competitors and build-up OSM to be a big open service, funded by billion dollar companies and adding in everything that they will add to their own maps, and making OSM the big competitor to Google Maps.
Or whether their additions will be closed and kept to the chest, making Apple's Maps the competitor to Google Maps.
I guess it also depends on what is considered improving OSM data and what can be argued to be just adding layers.
I'm not too familiar with how OSM works in iPhoto.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I'm really weary of this google maps ditching thing. Google and possibly Bing seems to be only one who can consistently plan the routes without some stupid major mistakes here in Canada, and I doubt Apple as a newcomer (and buying some unknown companies) will be able to match something so complex, convoluted and refined over the years :\ I'm sure in exchange we'll get some wonderfully looking 3D map views that I'll play with for five minutes and never try again though.
Thanks guys, guess I'll wait then.
The 11" Air is their introductory line of Apple laptops (notebooks) it will be their cheapest and easiest way to get into the OSX/Apple ecosystem. It will not go up in price. Ever.
lunarworks
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if Apple refreshes a portion of their lineup today, to clear the air for WWDC's actual announcements. They've done that before, IIRC.
the store was apparently down for a little while this morning so I thought it could happen but then it went back up and nothing new was added.
if nothing happens by tomorrow (silent Mac pro update, lol) then well know theyre waiting till next week to show us everything.
Everyone but you would be.
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H3983ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng
I remember a work around somewhere but no sound
or
http://store.apple.com/us/product/H1824ZM/A/Moshi_Mini_DisplayPort_to_HDMI_Adapter?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng
or
http://www.kanexlive.com/xd
Thanks for your suggestions, but alas, the 2011 iMac has no mini display port...... only thunderbolt.
same shit. (going in one direction)
http://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/05...with-usb-3-0-and-esata-bumps-price-to-399-99/
A lot of places offer only hubs and stations, but not direct cables.
if anyone else can get on this case, ive spent a decent amount of time and can't come up with anything. I remember in the "post your gaming setup" thread that there was a guy who had a console hooked up to his iMac (90% sure it wasnt a cinema or thunderbolt display) try and see if you can find the guy in those threads.
best of luck.
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
Apple is aware that Map are important and they bought the two map companies a few years ago in anticipation of launching their own product. I have faith that they'll not only do it well but it will be on par with Google and Bing maps in terms of route finding. I think the past few years of rebuilding the backend for the maps app will probably show through here.