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[Pejo]

I think she looks fine, if not a little plain. I'm more interested in her kit and damage potential. It's gonna be a rough few banners for me. I want to get Trigger and I want Viv, but I'm gonna need to get lucky on some 50/50s to make it happen.

 

[FreeY$L]

Got Sanby w-engine in a single pull, and just like that, the game has won me over again. Any tips about Discs?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Any tips about Discs?

just look at the in-game suggestions/training plan

 

[FreeY$L]

just look at the in-game suggestions/training plan

I dont think they tell you about main stats for slots 4/5/6, unless they do and i missed them

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I dont think they tell you about main stats for slots 4/5/6, unless they do and i missed them

they do

 

[Aenima]

I dont think they tell you about main stats for slots 4/5/6, unless they do and i missed them

If you click on the especific disk, like disk 5, you can see what most players are using.

Or you can also go here to see they recomended build: https://www.prydwen.gg/zenless/characters/anby-demara-soldier-0
Acording to them:

Disk 4 = Crit Rate or Crit Dmg
Disk 5 = Electric Dmg
Disk 6 = Atk%

 

[Wonko_C]

Finally got 9 stars in DA for the first time, Pompey was easy enough that I was able to get 3 stars with Lucy instead of Astra. I barely managed to cross the 20000 threshold on the very last second.

And with that, another achievement out of the way, only those that will eventually unlock themselves remain. Now I can finally half-ass DA and only get enough stars for the polychromes.



I haven't bothered with substat farming yet, recommendations welcome!

 

[Spyxos]

And I was wondering why Jane seemed so weak to me lately. I can barely manage 20k in DA with her. It's a real shame, because it's really fun to dodge with her. And she hasn't even had any reruns yet. Maybe she will be revived by Vivian.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Don't really agree with those placements, jane outdamages zhu yuan quite a bit, and yanagi outdamages everyone in that t0.5 placement, not really that impressed with anby's damage either.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Don't really agree with those placements, jane outdamages zhu yuan quite a bit, and yanagi outdamages everyone in that t0.5 placement, not really that impressed with anby's damage either.

I’m assuming this is Prydwns chart? While I think they generally do a good job, I never solely rely on them, Genshinlab also makes builds as well as various posts in Reddit and even the Hoyo app, it all comes down to what these people are putting the most weight on, as well as all the various assumptions about uptime for different buffs and rotations, ect.

I don’t think any single list should be taken as the final word, best to look at multiple lists and even then just use them as a guideline.

 

[Icymanipulator]

A little late as I’ve been busy with other games

Easy with Anby, and it was a chance to use Billy. Astra makes all the difference.

The hardest of the 3 for me, took quite a few tries, had to really work in perfect dodges to get enough points, couldn’t do this one on damage alone.

First try Miyabi ftw

 

[Pejo]

And I was wondering why Jane seemed so weak to me lately. I can barely manage 20k in DA with her. It's a real shame, because it's really fun to dodge with her. And she hasn't even had any reruns yet. Maybe she will be revived by Vivian.

I really hope Vivian offers off-field Ether anomaly application. I like my Burnice with Miyabi for the disorders and stack building, but she's also pretty necessary for Jane to keep her relevant in harder content. It'll be nice to have a 2nd off-field anomaly option to move between them. Even so, I still think Jane is better than piper and ZY by a large margin, as R Reizo Ryuu mentioned. Honestly I think Ellen is better than ZY in a neutral weakness situation.

I finally did the new main story. Some crazy stuff brewing with the Proxies being able to enter Hollows now and their "strange power" that the Mayor eluded to. Part of me is excited to see what's coming, but part of me wishes it wasn't another Shounen-type power up story for the proxies. Also they just Deus Ex Machina'd the explanation with bleep bloop I upgraded your RAM now you're cured! Kind of an asspull if I'm being honest. I'm almost positive that they will get Aetherial transformation forms like Bringer, but more under control. The whole fake out with Hugo's death is probably the biggest waste of time/story, not a single damn person thinks he's actually dead. It was nice to see Lycaon get some backstory and screen time. I haven't done the Anby story mission yet, but I found it funny how the main story puts little text reminders like "if you want more context here, do the Anby story!" Overall, it was just a set-up/exposition chapter, but I don't have a problem with that.

I find it a bit of a shame that with TV mode gone, we're recycling the same 4-5 stages over and over in Story Mode. The TV mode was great at actually placing you in different situations and witnessing events in a more dynamic way, even if people hated the TV mode stuff. Now we get to pull the same handful of switches at the train turntable 20 times, followed by a run in the cargo shipping area, followed by the dilapidated junkyard. Hope they work on new locations for future patches, or at least mix the map layout up a bit so it's not literally the same areas with just half of the exits blocked off.

 

[Aenima]

I’m assuming this is Prydwns chart? While I think they generally do a good job, I never solely rely on them, Genshinlab also makes builds as well as various posts in Reddit and even the Hoyo app, it all comes down to what these people are putting the most weight on, as well as all the various assumptions about uptime for different buffs and rotations, ect.

I don’t think any single list should be taken as the final word, best to look at multiple lists and even then just use them as a guideline.

Pretty much. Tier lists can be a good reference point for new players to have an idea what are the current meta characters, but they should not be taken too serious.

I used to look up Prydwns tier list for Nikke every time a new character came out, untill i started seeing alot of characters in positions that didnt made any sense to me. So eventually stoped looking at they tier lists. A few months ago i could still agree with they tier list for ZZZ, but right now, they already have characters in tiers that dosent make any sense like Jade Doe and Piper in the same tier. Thats just ridiculous.

I still use the site to look up the build recomendations if im not sure how to build a character. But even that should not be taken as an universal truth. And since ZZZ added a build recomendation feauture ingame, i only look at they builds if im too lazy to boot up the game.

 

[Pejo]

Trigger Character Demo:

 

[Agent_4Seven]

WTF is this SHIT in the last SD node? Contant slomo interuptions of fully charged EX attacks, Ults, regular attacks, perfect blocks and combos, which completely turns into nothing almost everything you do and makes it pointless! Get the fuck out with this BS miHoYo, you goddamin morons!

 

[Salz01]

I’m starting to get bored, tired of the grind. Wish I could just outright buy the characters.

 

[Pejo]

I’m starting to get bored, tired of the grind. Wish I could just outright buy the characters.

Well you technically can, by buying 180 pulls worth of currency. It's just that it's super expensive to think of it that way.

Though if you get lucky along the way, that's instant savings baby!

 

[Spyxos]

WTF is this SHIT in the last SD node? Contant slomo interuptions of fully charged EX attacks, Ults, regular attacks, perfect blocks and combos, which completely turns into nothing almost everything you do and makes it pointless! Get the fuck out with this BS miHoYo, you goddamin morons!

This fight is far too annoying. Having to build all this shit into a mode where you only have limited time... It would be a cool fight without the time pressure, but it doesn't belong in this game right now. 3 min 22 to get this guy down yeah sure fuck off.

 

[mpgeist]

I’m starting to get bored, tired of the grind. Wish I could just outright buy the characters.

I find myself having to take breaks from it occasionally, despite missing out on some things. It's a cool gacha, but it ends up feeling pretty grindy to me too.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

This fight is far too annoying.

Have you btw tried to activate 12 debuffs in the updated HZ rogue-lite mode and seen what's in there? Even Astra and Caesar won't help you save your sanity and mental health. I stopped at 9 and won't even bother wasting more of my time with this BS.

Having to build all this shit into a mode where you only have limited time... It would be a cool fight without the time pressure, but it doesn't belong in this game right now. 3 min 22 to get this guy down yeah sure fuck off.

They're complete and braindead morons. They really don't want you to get all those BS rewards. Pathetic is what it is.

 

[Spyxos]

Have you btw tried to activate 12 debuffs in the updated HZ rogue-lite mode and seen what's in there? Even Astra and Caesar won't help you save your sanity and mental health. I stopped at 9 and won't even bother wasting more of my time with this BS.


They're complete and braindead morons. They really don't want you to get all those BS rewards.

Thankfully not, I've already heard how tough it is. I collect my weekly points on a lower difficutly and I'm off. Even the fight in Node 6 against the jumping robot is only there to make it as difficult as possible.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

3 min 22 to get this guy down yeah sure fuck off.

I beat his side in 2 minutes with miyabi .
He might be resistant to ice, but miyabi does so much damage it might as well be neutral damage instead of resisted lol.
Every stage miyabi/lighter/lucy and anby/seth/astra, never bothered to switch or change teams

Even Astra and Caesar won't help you save your sanity and mental health. I stopped at 9 and won't even bother wasting more of my time with this BS.

Miyabi doesn't care, everyone dies just as easily

 

[Spyxos]

I beat his side in 2 minutes with miyabi .
He might be resistant to ice, but miyabi does so much damage it might as well be neutral damage instead of resisted lol.
Every stage miyabi/lighter/lucy and anby/seth/astra, never bothered to switch or change teams


Miyabi doesn't care, everyone dies just as easily

Jane, Burnice and Lucy here. I could probably get the time down a bit with this team. Mayabi was on the other side. I passed it, but it was no fun.

 

[Pejo]

Just did Anby's story quest. Man, just a real mess of pacing and direction, the same I felt about Astra's story mission. This one hits harder for me personally because I like Anby and wanted to learn more about her story. Starting out the story as if you're already 1/3 through the plot was dumb from the get-go. I know it can work, but it most definitely did not in this case. All of the characters were acting like completely different people. Nothing ever came of The scientist lady or the head scientist guy of Silver. At one point it showed the two scientists working together on the Silver project, but then later in the story, Twiggy acted like she had only met the lady scientist after being shopped around by black market dealers. Then there was the pink haired lady who seemed important in the promo videos and she wasn't even mentioned and had zero screentime. Nothing was explained about Obol squad, Trigger insinuated that she has a deep history with the Proxies, despite them never mentioning anything about it, or her, or their connection with S11. The organ sale thing came out of nowhere, when suddenly 200 Anbys appeared, and then they all disappeared just as quickly when Twiggy and Girl A transformed. Were they part of the "tech" that Anby supposedly destroyed at the end? What a fucking mess.

On top of that, there were more typos and poor grammatic writing, the text boxes sometimes stretched 3-4x normal and the font became tiny. The whole thing felt phoned in. Major bummer for a character I was really looking forward to.

Then S11 acts like she and the proxies were best friends or something, when all they did beforehand was feed some cats and eat noodles in her Trust story. Feels like that whole section of the patch was written by interns or something.

*edit*

Almost forgot how they ruined a bunch of sad/serious moments with burger jokes.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Pejo I haven't even touched SAnby's story since there's no rush, so I'm yet to see what's in there and will judge it myself at some point. But what I don't like is that they're not telling you that you should play it first and only then go for the main story, cuz otherwise SAnby and Trigger will show up out of nowhere and you'll be like - WTF, why it is so sudden, shouldn't I had met you guys before?, and sure enough that is exactly what you should've done by playin' SAnby's story first. It's no a rocket science to warn people about what they should start playing first for story reasons, but nope, it's way too hard for miHoYo to figure it out cuz they're more concerned about the money they can get out of you. I liked the main story in this update, but man... that was bad.

 

[Pejo]

Pejo I haven't even touched SAnby's story since there's no rush, so I'm yet to see what's in there and will judge it myself at some point. But what I don't like is that they're not telling you that you should play it first and only then go for the main story, cuz otherwise SAnby and Trigger will show up out of nowhere and you'll be like - WTF, why it is so sudden, shouldn't I had met you guys before?, and sure enough that is exactly what you should've done by playin' SAnby's story first. It's no a rocket science to warn people about what they should start playing first for story reasons, but nope, it's way too hard for miHoYo to figure it out cuz they're more concerned about the money they can get out of you. I liked the main story in this update, but man... that was bad.

I totally understand what you mean, but as it turns out the explanation for why they're together and present in the main story still doesn't make much sense. At least the Anby quest acknowledges that they now know each other, but it's not like they had any significant bonding in the Anby story either. More of a "friend of a friend" situation. Which makes it even weirder that they did that bit in the main story, like there was going to be some grand explanation behind it. It's just a chance for them to demo the characters, and they did a piss poor job of wrapping it up in the story.

I just wonder what's going on, because past character stories have been good/coherent, the main story continues to be at least above average. Not sure which writer(s) are doing these random fuckups here and there. This is the first time I've ever had the typos/grammar issues/text box issues in my entire experience with the game.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Pejo finished SAnby's story and commissions. Have you paid enough attention to the main story stuff? The organ selling thing is linked to the main story and what Twiggy was doing behind the scenes. Remember those conversations you had to eavesdrop while following a certain someone and who was and is also connected to TOPS? So it's not a thing that came up out of nowhere, this certain someone was using Twiggy to be part of TOPS. I just don't understand her motivation for this, I guess she was trying to get money to fund whatever she was planning to do. As for the scientists, there could've been a lot of them and they showed only two, not sure how this is a problem. Trigger and MCs thing is a bit weird, yes, cuz we sure as shit haven't met her before 1.6 and the main story happens after SAnby's. But maybe it's a translation error or something, which could indeed be the case cuz there's a lot of errors and stuff in texts. We didn't know about S11 connection to Trigger cuz there was no Trigger to speak of, we barely knew S11 even and could't finish her trust questline before 1.6. We knew about Anby and S11 and S11 mentioned her squad commander, but I think it was her current commander, not SAnby and from the looks of it, it's a girl, maybe we'll know more in a day from now in the Trigger's story as well as continuation of SAnby's commision quest which is not finished. They sure didn't explaine what happened to the rest of the replicas which is kinda strange, but after playing through those commissions which continue the story, I think we'll find out about what happened to them sooner or later, it's too early to judge.

Anyway, SAnby's story is one of the best they've done and I can only say that about a rare few of them. I loved SAnby's story, almost everything about it. SAnby, Trigger and S11 stuff was great and way too emotional for a 40 year old me, who hasn't expected to see and experience any of that

But what I don't get is... so S11 forgot about what SAnby said to her cuz of memory wipe, then remembered everything cuz of Neko hidden cam... but then forgot about everything again?! I'm not sure if it makes any sense,... unless of course she got injured badly again during a mission... NO, fuck this, man! That was such a nice emotional reunion and I want it to still be a thing and continue, not wiped out again cuz of the stupid reason

 

[Pejo]

Pejo finished SAnby's story and commissions. Have you paid enough attention to the main story stuff? The organ selling thing is linked to the main story and what Twiggy was doing behind the scenes. Remember those conversations you had to eavesdrop while following a certain someone and who was and is also connected to TOPS? So it's not a thing that came up out of nowhere, this certain someone was using Twiggy to be part of TOPS. I just don't understand her motivation for this, I guess she was trying to get money to fund whatever she was planning to do.

Yep, for better or worse I always pay attention to the story in games I play. It wasn't out of place that they mentioned the organ stuff, that part I get and it connected. I was saying it was out of place that they were even in the hollow together at the same time as you while you're there with the intelligence broker lady and Vivian.

As for the scientists, there could've been a lot of them and they showed only two, not sure how this is a problem. Trigger and MCs thing is a bit weird, yes, cuz we sure as shit haven't met her before 1.6 and the main story happens after SAnby's. But maybe it's a translation error or something, which could indeed be the case cuz there's a lot of errors and stuff in texts. We didn't know about S11 connection to Trigger cuz there was no Trigger to speak of, we barely knew S11 even and could't finish her trust questline before 1.6. We knew about Anby and S11 and S11 mentioned her squad commander, but I think it was her current commander, not SAnby and from the looks of it, it's a girl, maybe we'll know more in a day from now in the Trigger's story as well as continuation of SAnby's commision quest which is not finished. They sure didn't explaine what happened to the rest of the replicas which is kinda strange, but after playing through those commissions which continue the story, I think we'll find out about what happened to them sooner or later, it's too early to judge.

Yea these are a lot of the problems I had. I'm really bummed out that they didn't expand on the replicas. I wanted to know if it was implied that Anby killed them all or not. I'm not sure what else would have given her pause/concern at the end when she asks you if she should destroy everything so Silver Squad tech could never be used again.

The S11 stuff was really out-of-character and out of place considering our involvement with her in the past. Before this patch she acted like a robot basically and there was no real comradery visible other than the cat stuff. But in this patch after the quest, she treats you like you've been super close and best friends forever. Like why the hell did they even bring her to the Proxy house to recover? There's like 5 better places I can think of off the top of my head that are better places to take her that aren't even the Obol Squad main office.

Anyway, SAnby's story is one of the best they've done and I can only say that about a rare few of them. I loved SAnby's story, almost everything about it. SAnby, Trigger and S11 stuff was great and way too emotional for a 40 year old me, who hasn't expected to see and experience any of that

I think her story was loaded with potential, but ultimately was a mess of bad writing/pacing. The two (out of game) videos before she released were fantastic lead-up videos, but the payoff and execution of the story was so bad in the game. Just my opinion though, nothing wrong if you liked it. I'm a lot less willing to just handwave bad writing when it's about a character I'm interested in and care about their story. It reminded me a lot of how I felt about Final Fantasy XV's story. Like a fever dream that stuff just happens at random and is never explained or connected properly.

But what I don't get is... so S11 forgot about what SAnby said to her cuz of memory wipe, then remembered everything cuz of Neko hidden cam... but then forgot about everything again?! I'm not sure if it makes any sense,... unless of course she got injured badly again during a mission... NO, fuck this, man! That was such a nice emotional reunion and I want it to still be a thing and continue, not wiped out again cuz of the stupid reason

Yea that's another mess of her story bits. I give up trying to make sense of it.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Yep, for better or worse I always pay attention to the story in games I play. It wasn't out of place that they mentioned the organ stuff, that part I get and it connected. I was saying it was out of place that they were even in the hollow together at the same time as you while you're there with the intelligence broker lady and Vivian.

I just can't see the problem here, ma dude. There's tons of hollows and seizures everywhere, why do you think they were in the same one? Not to mention that the main story happens after SAnby's... so...?

Yea these are a lot of the problems I had. I'm really bummed out that they didn't expand on the replicas. I wanted to know if it was implied that Anby killed them all or not. I'm not sure what else would have given her pause/concern at the end when she asks you if she should destroy everything so Silver Squad tech could never be used again.

I think they're just holding things back for Trigger's story and maybe even later if there's a reason for it. As I'm sure you know that SAnby hesitated whether to destroy the lab or not and asked MCs what she should do. They didn't show that the lab was destroyed or what SAnby even did after she said that she made up her mind. I think it was intentional cuz again, I think they still have something to show and tell in Trigger's story and maybe even later, so let's wait and see.

The S11 stuff was really out-of-character and out of place considering our involvement with her in the past. Before this patch she acted like a robot basically and there was no real comradery visible other than the cat stuff. But in this patch after the quest,she treats you like you've been super close and best friends forever.

Did she really? So, about MCs (I'll say more about them later).
There was the very first character story and you helped her there, then slowly gained her trust (couldn't finish it cuz of reasons I guess), then there was the vault thing with her. I can't say there's comradery here, more like S11 and MCs know each other, did some things together and... well S11 is tough and bad ass bitch which can be soft at times, Idk how can you even have normal relationship with her without knowing here way more and so far ZZZ didn't make it happen. MCs and S11 sure as shit not even close to each other like with Zhu for example or the whole S6 team, let alone the whole CH. I haven's seen that she treat MCs like they're BFFs. Now, S11 couldn't remember a thing cuz of you know what, she was lying on the couch 95% of the time in the story, then gone with Trigger for you to then find her later as SAnby, then SAnby told her what happened and you know what happened next.

So anyway, Idk what exactly triggered you, I just can't see it

Like why the hell did they even bring her to the Proxy house to recover? There's like 5 better places I can think of off the top of my head that are better places to take her that aren't even the Obol Squad main office.

Man, you know what? I'm sick and tired of teen MCs in the game and the whole video store thing and I talked about this already in the past. Like, I get that they're MCs and so on, but why does everything always have to involve this stupid video store? All trust events are always have it for the same exact reason and it is repeated for all characters. Starting with 1.6 we can now control MCs in the Hollow AND IT'S SO FUCKIN' BORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING! UUUUUUUUUGH!! I don't care anymore! Just fuckin' advance the time 5-6 years into the future, let us play as adult MCs already and don't make us suffer through all of this anymore.

Like, how long do we have to deal with all this shit until we can control MCs as full-on adult agents (they're already making preparation for this based on 1.6s story)? For the next 8 monts too? This has to stop ASAP and the video store as well. The story and MCs needs to drastically shift to something more serious and adult-like, cuz this stupid store is not working anymore. They also need to add more locations to fit the more adult narrative and everything that'll come with it and the game will be better for it.

I think her story was loaded with potential, but ultimately was a mess of bad writing/pacing. The two (out of game) videos before she released were fantastic lead-up videos, but the payoff and execution of the story was so bad in the game. Just my opinion though, nothing wrong if you liked it. I'm a lot less willing to just handwave bad writing when it's about a character I'm interested in and care about their story. It reminded me a lot of how I felt about Final Fantasy XV's story. Like a fever dream that stuff just happens at random and is never explained or connected properly.

I don't think there's a pacing issue, the writing of some things could be better though, that's for sure. I hope that they'll at least fix text errors and maybe not so great translation via patches later. Overall, I think they've done a good job making this whole SAnby and S11 thing happen. We haven't seen S11 like that ever in the game (they always showed her as though military bitch) and that goes for Anby as well so this alone they nailed perfectly as well as all emotional moments. They finally showed and told what the fuck happened between these two and it's not even over yet and I'm sure we'll see more in the future. Do I want it to be better written in some places (especially after Twiggy fight)? For sure! But what we ended up getting is Oscar worthy in comparison to pos stories about Burnice and some other agents. Like, have you seen what they did for Burnice and Piper? Like, I get that not everyone's story has to be this emotional and very serious life and death rollercoaster, bug goddamn, it was so bad and I can't unsee it now

Yea that's another mess of her story bits. I give up trying to make sense of it.

Cuz there's no sense

They just made it convenient for SAnby (which is not even convenient anymore after she and S11 resolved everything after S11 remembered what SAnby told to her) cuz she wanted for S11 to forget what she said cuz she's a coward, then they finally talked about it, made things right and... then she forgot about it again, but SAnby remembers everything but now has to live with S11 hatred (which is not even fair) and they can't do this again cuz it's x2 time stupid now to go through it a second time and how does it look from the narrative standpoint? LIKE ABSOLUTE, PURE AND STINKY SHIT! What THE FUCK is this and how did it go through writing QA? Seriously, this is literally the biggest issue I have with SAnby's story and it's so glaring that I can't see how it got through QA. miHoYo! WTF!?

Uh, I goess I can see that for some this thing alone can ruin what they actually did right, but in my mind this whole fuckin' thing after the fight with Twiggy just never effin' happened. How can SAnby even be OK with this too after they resolved everything? Fuckin' HOW!? I just refuse to accept this nonesense, goddamn it

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

So this is an April Fool's post, but it looks like it's heavily hinting at the game coming soonish to Xbox.

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[Icymanipulator]

Trigger tonight?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Yeah that seems too much of a cruel joke for xbox players even if it's april first, they are probably planning an xbox version soon.

 

[Pejo]

Won the 50/50 for Trigger, Vivian savings still looking A-O-K.

I find myself viewing her skill page over and over for some reason...

I think they're just holding things back for Trigger's story and maybe even later if there's a reason for it. As I'm sure you know that SAnby hesitated whether to destroy the lab or not and asked MCs what she should do. They didn't show that the lab was destroyed or what SAnby even did after she said that she made up her mind. I think it was intentional cuz again, I think they still have something to show and tell in Trigger's story and maybe even later, so let's wait and see.

Hope you're right! That'd be a nice follow-up for sure, and they left plenty of material to still write about and act on. I won't have time to dig into the new story until the weekend probably.

Did she really? So, about MCs (I'll say more about them later).
There was the very first character story and you helped her there, then slowly gained her trust (couldn't finish it cuz of reasons I guess), then there was the vault thing with her. I can't say there's comradery here, more like S11 and MCs know each other, did some things together and... well S11 is tough and bad ass bitch which can be soft at times, Idk how can you even have normal relationship with her without knowing here way more and so far ZZZ didn't make it happen. MCs and S11 sure as shit not even close to each other like with Zhu for example or the whole S6 team, let alone the whole CH. I haven's seen that she treat MCs like they're BFFs. Now, S11 couldn't remember a thing cuz of you know what, she was lying on the couch 95% of the time in the story, then gone with Trigger for you to then find her later as SAnby, then SAnby told her what happened and you know what happened next.

So anyway, Idk what exactly triggered you, I just can't see it

Did you finish her bond events and unlock her wallpaper? Everything was fine up until there, then they just jump the shark and suddenly you're her closest friend somehow out of nowhere. It's not a big deal, but just a drop in the ocean of issues I had with this patch and the story (so far).

Man, you know what? I'm sick and tired of teen MCs in the game and the whole video store thing and I talked about this already in the past. Like, I get that they're MCs and so on, but why does everything always have to involve this stupid video store? All trust events are always have it for the same exact reason and it is repeated for all characters. Starting with 1.6 we can now control MCs in the Hollow AND IT'S SO FUCKIN' BORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING! UUUUUUUUUGH!! I don't care anymore! Just fuckin' advance the time 5-6 years into the future, let us play as adult MCs already and don't make us suffer through all of this anymore.

I doubt they'll do timeskips or age them up, but I could see the proxies getting certain... abilities in the near future (maybe anniversary time?). They already shot their load for what I would have personally picked for the anniversary (Miyabi - necessary since player interest was waning and they had to deliver a heavy-hitter, and Soldier 0 Anby - just mishandled in a lot of ways). So the Proxies being the big deal for the anniversary could be cool. Though I have a feeling that they'd make us roll for them or else make a best-in-slot mega support that they need and make us roll that character instead. I'm really curious what they do.

I don't think there's a pacing issue, the writing of some things could be better though, that's for sure. I hope that they'll at least fix text errors and maybe not so great translation via patches later. Overall, I think they've done a good job making this whole SAnby and S11 thing happen. We haven't seen S11 like that ever in the game (they always showed her as though military bitch) and that goes for Anby as well so this alone they nailed perfectly as well as all emotional moments. They finally showed and told what the fuck happened between these two and it's not even over yet and I'm sure we'll see more in the future. Do I want it to be better written in some places (especially after Twiggy fight)? For sure! But what we ended up getting is Oscar worthy in comparison to pos stories about Burnice and some other agents. Like, have you seen what they did for Burnice and Piper? Like, I get that not everyone's story has to be this emotional and very serious life and death rollercoaster, bug goddamn, it was so bad and I can't unsee it now

I really hope you're right and the 2nd half of this patch gives us the rest of the story, because as things are right now, I just can't agree that it was done well. Huge potential, interesting setup, but wet fart at the end(?)

Uh, I goess I can see that for some this thing alone can ruin what they actually did right, but in my mind this whole fuckin' thing after the fight with Twiggy just never effin' happened. How can SAnby even be OK with this too after they resolved everything? Fuckin' HOW!? I just refuse to accept this nonesense, goddamn it

Yea it felt like that whole scene wrapped up too quickly/too neatly. Maybe it was just all a dream.....

*edit*

By the way, which W-Engine do you guys think for Trigger? I have an extra one of Lycaon's signature (5 star, The Restrained), extras of Anby's and Pulchara's, and a single copy of the BP one. I'm thinking of giving The Restrained since it's 5*. I think her off-field coordinated shots count as "basic attacks" because that's the skill section that they describe the effects, so I'm guessing that's an even better reason to use The Restrained (since it buffs damage/daze of normal attacks).

 

[Icymanipulator]

Lost 50/50 at 60 to Koldea, got Trigger in another 20. 80 total, so not bad, still around 20k poly so that’s nice. Debating on her weapon, maybe but I’ll get it but no rush as of right now. Seeming like she’s just there to support Silver Anby, so I’m not too worried about it as my Anby performs really well already.

 

[Pejo]

Is this new? Looks like they're starting the Billy upgrade pre-hype.

 

[Aenima]

My luck in this trash game is special. Another character i pull, another 140 pulls down the drain. This makes the 4th lost 50/50 in a row where i need to waste at least 140 pulls to get the character.

If Trigger didnt had such a juicy ass to apreciate while i run (walk) around the city doing the dailies, i would be already rage quitting this game from this POS company.

Now waiting for the next hot waifu to pull cuz i honestly lost any interest in this game for the gameplay aspect of it, i just cant build the teams i want as F2P in this game. Fuck Hoyoverse. At least thers the consolation that i never gave them a cent of my money.

I also love how nasty they are by making Zhu Yuan the rerun character just before they release the patch with Vivian that will most likelly power creep Zhu Yuan so hard that she will become as useful as Ellen Joe is now.

Hopefully Ananta comes out this year and hopefully ends up being as good as it looks, so i can finally drop Hoyotrash games for good.

 

[Icymanipulator]

My luck in this trash game is special. Another character i pull, another 140 pulls down the drain. This makes the 4th lost 50/50 in a row where i need to waste at least 140 pulls to get the character.

If Trigger didnt had such a juicy ass to apreciate while i run (walk) around the city doing the dailies, i would be already rage quitting this game from this POS company.

Now waiting for the next hot waifu to pull cuz i honestly lost any interest in this game for the gameplay aspect of it, i just cant build the teams i want as F2P in this game. Fuck Hoyoverse. At least thers the consolation that i never gave them a cent of my money.

I also love how nasty they are by making Zhu Yuan the rerun character just before they release the patch with Vivian that will most likelly power creep Zhu Yuan so hard that she will become as useful as Ellen Joe is now.

Hopefully Ananta comes out this year and hopefully ends up being as good as it looks, so i can finally drop Hoyotrash games for good.

This is kind of how I’m feeling in WuWa, terrible luck always have to go the distance, constantly losing 50/50s

 

[Aenima]

This is kind of how I’m feeling in WuWa, terrible luck always have to go the distance, constantly losing 50/50s

Yup my luck in WuWa was also trash (fucking hate these games with drop rates below 1%) and i rage quited already.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

50/50 pain is real, lol.

I like HSR a lot, but I dropped it after losing Acheron. Also, the powercreep is just too much in that game. ZZZ is a bit better in that department, the old characters are still good and fun to play. As a F2P, I only pull for those I absolutely love like Burnice, Miyabi and Evelyn.

I'm looking forward to Arknights Endfield, they are more generous than Hoyo and the game looks incredible. Same with Ananta.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Did you finish her bond events and unlock her wallpaper? Everything was fine up until there, then they just jump the shark and suddenly you're her closest friend somehow out of nowhere. It's not a big deal, but just a drop in the ocean of issues I had with this patch and the story (so far).

If you mean Anby, then yes, she's maxed out since launch... but she wasn't in your case? But then again, MCs and CH gone through so much together, I can't see the problem here even if you haven't maxed out her trust.

I doubt they'll do timeskips or age them up, but I could see the proxies getting certain... abilities in the near future (maybe anniversary time?). They already shot their load for what I would have personally picked for the anniversary (Miyabi - necessary since player interest was waning and they had to deliver a heavy-hitter, and Soldier 0 Anby - just mishandled in a lot of ways). So the Proxies being the big deal for the anniversary could be cool. Though I have a feeling that they'd make us roll for them or else make a best-in-slot mega support that they need and make us roll that character instead. I'm really curious what they do.

They already have outfits ready for Proxies and Miyabi which'll launch with an anniversary update. As to what they'll do with proxies, I think the best thing the can do with them being at supporting roles is give them powers to buff agents, influence the battle somehow (stop / slow time to expose enemies weak points so agents can use it to their advantage - this must be completely new combat mechanic with quick finishers, assists and stuff like that to make the combat more exciting and closer to combat cut-scenes). Needless to say and like we would've said it in Russia - у них есть просто непаханое поле для экспериментов, but only time will tell if they can actually use this opportunity well and won't fuck it up like they're doing right now with boring af hacking and slow af traversal - like, I know what they're doing here, but from the gameplay standpoint it's just not working.

I really hope you're right and the 2nd half of this patch gives us the rest of the story, because as things are right now, I just can't agree that it was done well. Huge potential, interesting setup, but wet fart at the end(?)

Um, they... might save it for another day cuz it looks like Trigger part will be all about her and her squad, but I haven't played her story yet.

It looks like it's going to be big, and I won't be surprised if they'll do a huge event with Anby later and continue her personal story in the lead up to our confrontation with TOPS in the actual story content at some point. We'll see.

Yea it felt like that whole scene wrapped up too quickly/too neatly. Maybe it was just all a dream....

By the way, which W-Engine do you guys think for Trigger? I have an extra one of Lycaon's signature (5 star, The Restrained), extras of Anby's and Pulchara's, and a single copy of the BP one. I'm thinking of giving The Restrained since it's 5*. I think her off-field coordinated shots count as "basic attacks" because that's the skill section that they describe the effects, so I'm guessing that's an even better reason to use The Restrained (since it buffs damage/daze of normal attacks).

It looks like the best F2P option for her when it comes to her class is Fossilized Core. Anby's has greater focus on Electric DMG and not on how quickly you can stun an enemy and accumulate as much daze as possible - exactly what stunners are for. As for The Restrained, it buffs DMG/Daze of bassic attacks, but Trigger is mostly off field agent, you need to swap to her to activate some of her stuff and Fossilized Core gives her better daze and stun build up. In any case, since you have options you can do like me and just try them in SD or DA

I don't have her yet cuz I lost 50/50 to fuckin' Nekomata and 65 pulls in with no luck - definitely skippin' the whole 1.7 update cuz of this BS when it comes to pulls, it's already decided, fuck it.

 

[Pejo]

If you mean Anby, then yes, she's maxed out since launch... but she wasn't in your case? But then again, MCs and CH gone through so much together, I can't see the problem here even if you haven't maxed out her trust.

No no, Anby has ample time with the proxy via story events and whatnot, and her bond story shows actual growth between them and the proxy. I'm talking about S11. At the end of her bond events as of last patch, the most you did was eat noodles and pet cats together. Then when you finish S.Anby's story mission, you unlock S11's final chapter of her bond story, where she acts out of character like you two have been best friends forever. I suppose you could attribute it a bit to the mental resets she's been going through, but it really came out of left field with no buildup. And during S.Anby's story, S11 was basically offscreen or asleep the whole time, so it's not like you built up rapport there. Again, not the worst thing in the world, just one of the examples of the inconsistent writing that I was talking about.

They already have outfits ready for Proxies and Miyabi which'll launch with an anniversary update.

Has this been leaked? Got any links or anything? I need to see those.

As to what they'll do with proxies, I think the best thing the can do with them being at supporting roles is give them powers to buff agents, influence the battle somehow (stop / slow time to expose enemies weak points so agents can use it to their advantage - this must be completely new combat mechanic with quick finishers, assists and stuff like that to make the combat more exciting and closer to combat cut-scenes). Needless to say and like we would've said it in Russia - у них есть просто непаханое поле для экспериментов, but only time will tell if they can actually use this opportunity well and won't fuck it up like they're doing right now with boring af hacking and slow af traversal - like, I know what they're doing here, but from the gameplay standpoint it's just not working.

Yea I don't think they want to put too much effort into refining the gameplay at this point. They never properly filled the hole left when they abandoned TV mode, and I think 2.0 is probably going to have some huge game-wide changes in how we approach stories/combat/etc. Having the proxies use abilities to change the on-screen battle situations sounds interesting if they do it well. I'd hate to see the game become even more like a cutscene though. It's already way too basic in my opinion. If anything, I want to see them add more combat options and make enemies more of a threat instead of puppets you just wail on for ~2 minutes. This game is pretty simple at a conceptual level compared to like Genshin or WuWa, so they should really up the complexity of the combat to allow for skill expression and some player satisfaction. I'm already fed up with timer-based DPS checks, there needs to be something else in my opinion.

Um, they... might save it for another day cuz it looks like Trigger part will be all about her and her squad, but I haven't played her story yet.

Unfortunate. Maybe some of these character stories will get a chapter 2? If not, they really dropped the ball on the end of S.Anby's story. Her kit and design a bit too, if I'm being honest. I finished building her today and she flat out does worse clear times than my Yanagi by a large margin. both characters at C0 with their signatures. Not sure how she compares to a built Haramusa, but definitely underwhelming considering she's one of the poster girls for the game, and is the first character to get a 2nd form/upgrade.

It looks like the best F2P option for her when it comes to her class is Fossilized Core. Anby's has greater focus on Electric DMG and not on how quickly you can stun an enemy and accumulate as much daze as possible - exactly what stunners are for. As for The Restrained, it buffs DMG/Daze of bassic attacks, but Trigger is mostly off field agent, you need to swap to her to activate some of her stuff and Fossilized Core gives her better daze and stun build up. In any case, since you have options you can do like me and just try them in SD or DA

I don't have her yet cuz I lost 50/50 to fuckin' Nekomata and 65 pulls in with no luck - definitely skippin' the whole 1.7 update cuz of this BS when it comes to pulls, it's already decided, fuck it.

Yea it doesn't take much time to build W-Engines, I might try the Restrained and the Fossilized Core. Just a note though, it seems that Trigger's off-field coordinated attacks are considered "Basic attacks" so the buffs from the Restrained are active almost always.

Lol @ this Pulchra mod:

Also modders got a look at Trigger's real eyes under the mask:

I liked that concept fanart I posted a month or two ago where the whole eye area was black and had the Ether Crystals embedded, it looked cooler.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

No no, Anby has ample time with the proxy via story events and whatnot, and her bond story shows actual growth between them and the proxy. I'm talking about S11. At the end of her bond events as of last patch, the most you did was eat noodles and pet cats together. Then when you finish S.Anby's story mission, you unlock S11's final chapter of her bond story, where she acts out of character like you two have been best friends forever. I suppose you could attribute it a bit to the mental resets she's been going through, but it really came out of left field with no buildup. And during S.Anby's story, S11 was basically offscreen or asleep the whole time, so it's not like you built up rapport there. Again, not the worst thing in the world, just one of the examples of the inconsistent writing that I was talking about.

Oh...? I thought you referring to something that happened in SAndy's story. I haven't even started S11 trust cuz I knew it wasn't finished and the fact how bad trust stuff is in the game to this day (even after they tried to make it better and didn't) makes me not want to touch anything trust related until they rework how trust works or make it significantly better. Have you played Trigger's story yet?

What a goddamn MASTERPIECE!

THIS is how you do trust and bond characters for life. Holly shit, man, it's so fuckin' good I... the words just can't discribe it and do it justiuce. Literally the best thing they ever written for ZZZ so far and the absolute best character story. The only real complaint I have about it is that (spoiler, don't read until you finish Trigger's story!) Trigger already has Obol signature on her combat uniform before she even joined them at the end of her story. I mean, it's not a big deal but... uh, like, they should've removed it from her uniform for narrative reasons.

Has this been leaked? Got any links or anything? I need to see those.

Yes, no images though, just a post with claims so far, nothing 100% confirmed yet. But it makes sense to do this for 1st anniversary. Outfits for MCs will be free, but the one for Miyabi you'll need to buy.

Yea I don't think they want to put too much effort into refining the gameplay at this point. They never properly filled the hole left when they abandoned TV mode, and I think 2.0 is probably going to have some huge game-wide changes in how we approach stories/combat/etc. Having the proxies use abilities to change the on-screen battle situations sounds interesting if they do it well. I'd hate to see the game become even more like a cutscene though. It's already way too basic in my opinion. If anything, I want to see them add more combat options and make enemies more of a threat instead of puppets you just wail on for ~2 minutes. This game is pretty simple at a conceptual level compared to like Genshin or WuWa, so they should really up the complexity of the combat to allow for skill expression and some player satisfaction. I'm already fed up with timer-based DPS checks, there needs to be something else in my opinion.

I hate to say it and ruin your dreams, but I think this is exactly what they'll be doing. I hope I'm wrong, but if WuWa devs doing and absolute shit job at it (which was partially the reason why I stopped playing for a while - will get back to it as some point to check new story and characters), then there's no hope for ZZZ at all. By end game I don't mean rogue-like mode which is great and the best end game in ZZZ so far.

Unfortunate. Maybe some of these character stories will get a chapter 2? If not, they really dropped the ball on the end of S.Anby's story. Her kit and design a bit too, if I'm being honest. I finished building her today and she flat out does worse clear times than my Yanagi by a large margin. both characters at C0 with their signatures. Not sure how she compares to a built Haramusa, but definitely underwhelming considering she's one of the poster girls for the game, and is the first character to get a 2nd form/upgrade.

After finishing Trigger's story, yes, I'm willing to be money on that we'll get Lycaon vs. Hugo-like story in the future when it comes to continuation of SAnby's story and it will be related to the main story involving TOPS when they'll be put them front and center as the main threat in the game - they already building everything towards it so it's inevitable. Are TOPS the sole force behind everything and the fall of the old capital? Only time will tell.

Her kit and design a bit too, if I'm being honest. I finished building her today and she flat out does worse clear times than my Yanagi by a large margin. both characters at C0 with their signatures. Not sure how she compares to a built Haramusa, but definitely underwhelming considering she's one of the poster girls for the game, and is the first character to get a 2nd form/upgrade.

Can you show your stats and stuff for her? I got lucky with great discs and substats so in my case she's a beast against enemies weak to electric damage, plus I have her at M1. I mean, she's not as good as Yanagi cuz she can't do constant disorders... but they work great together. Also, did you know that after SAnby throws combined blades (EX attack) you can continue using EX attacks and have 3 attack chains - the first few quick slashes that can hit multiple enemies, EX attack and then EX slashes? It's great man.

Yea it doesn't take much time to build W-Engines, I might try the Restrained and the Fossilized Core. Just a note though, it seems that Trigger's off-field coordinated attacks are considered "Basic attacks" so the buffs from the Restrained are active almost always.

Are they? They clearly refering to them as aftershocks... hmm. Well anyway, I don't have Trigger yet so please post your findings here

Lol @ this Pulchra mod:

Man, they need to reduce the size of her boobs, they're just way too big and I'd even say comically big and just don't fit her as a character

Also modders got a look at Trigger's real eyes under the mask:

I liked that concept fanart I posted a month or two ago where the whole eye area was black and had the Ether Crystals embedded, it looked cooler.

Dude, they're marketing her giggles and stuff, but she's way, WAAAAAAY beyond this horny stuff when you'll know her better and see what kind of a character she is. I'd even go as far as to say that they're insulting her, her personality and gender with all this. As for the eyes, before recently, there wasn't any eyes or face behind the visor, looks like they've changed that.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Pulchra is big and strong. Massive boobs "fit" her lol. I just want an alternate outfit, as a compesation for the reduction they did on Nicole before release. Hoyo making her a free A character was nice of them.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Completely forgot about Trigger's release with all the Switch 2 news, lol.

Going to pull for her later today once I'm done with work, but if I lose my 50/50, I'll be saving the guarantee for Vivian.

 

[Agent_4Seven]

Thick Thighs Save Lives good luck with the pulls!

I still haven't got her after losing 50/50 and I already passed 75/25 threshold for crying out loud.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

11 and proxies haven't just been eating noodles and petting cats, there have been random commissions that involved her and the entire arpeggio fault event was basically 11 x proxies teaming up.

 

[Pejo]

11 and proxies haven't just been eating noodles and petting cats, there have been random commissions that involved her and the entire arpeggio fault event was basically 11 x proxies teaming up.

Wouldn't her memory resets nullify any of that stuff that came before?

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

Wouldn't her memory resets nullify any of that stuff that came before?

no, the memory loss is temporary and they only really lose the past 24 hours, the rest comes back.

 

[Icymanipulator]

I went for Triggers weapon, had to go all the way to hard pity

I decided to blow ploys on it since I won’t be pulling the next couple patches as I’ll be skipping both Vivian and Hugo. That should give me some time to save back up again.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Welcome home, Trigger!