TheCowboyPoet
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I don't know, when he was talking about the team being small, I could see Hello Games handing the VR off to PlayStation to do.
No Man's Sky previews (03-03-2016)
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I don't know, when he was talking about the team being small, I could see Hello Games handing the VR off to PlayStation to do.
Idle Storm
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This and Bloodborne are the two games that make me really want a PS4...
More_Badass
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This is a really good video
He talks about weapons here
https://youtu.be/hGXDCV9HiZ4?t=780
And I love this clip
Thanks for this. I learned a lot of new tidbits, in particular about the HUD, environments and NPC roles and interactions. There's a lot more to the game than had been revealed prior, and I still have the feeling they are holding a great deal back.
The systems described don't seem to have great depth, but are fairly numerous and work together well. This is what I had hoped for, as in my mind I'd thought of NMS as a kind of Minecraft in space, with exploring filling in for building: Relatively simple systems that are smartly designed and facilitate players crafting their own adventures through the world.
Running from the cold that his suit couldn't handle and into an observatory, finding an alien NPC, using tidbits of their language he'd picked up on to interact and find new waypoints on the planet...really starts to sketch in the kind of loops the game has.
King Radical
Member
I'm getting pretty damn excited for this game. Most peoples concerns about it seem to be that you could get bored with it and I totally respect that but I'm not that type of gamer. I currently have over 400 hours in Elite: Dangerous and its a game well known for how dry it can be, yet I'm always having a good time with it. This seems like the first thing that threatens to tear me away from Elite: Dangerous actually. I mean I love the realistic astrophysics they go for in E
which doesnt seem to be as present in No Man's Sky (Also the aesthetics go for a less realistic look obviously) but it seems like it will have a lot more activities than E does so I imagine I could spend a disturbing amount of time with this game.
which doesnt seem to be as present in No Man's Sky (Also the aesthetics go for a less realistic look obviously) but it seems like it will have a lot more activities than E does so I imagine I could spend a disturbing amount of time with this game.Sleeping Lesson
Member
Aaaahhhh I know that's a possibility, but it's my nightmare scenario. Oculus SDK support is relatively simple to integrate, so hopefully it will come even if it's not there at launch.
UnluckyKate
Member
We don't know yet if this one is going to be good but bloodborne is a fucking masterpiece and probably the best and most unique game I played in years so yeah, for bloodborne alone try to jump in.
That was a really good video, I was wondering about day/night cycles. Interesting for planets in systems with multiple stars.
Also, that random weapon generator creates some really un-ergonomic options.
I bought a PS4 when BB came out; specifically for BB and NMS.
No Man's Sky is truly my dream game. The exploration makes me super giddy.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Well that pretty much confirms that
Icyflamez96
Member
We'll see... I think Oculus support is much more likely right now than PSVR support. When NMS launches, I don't think there's any chance it'll be ready for PSVR by then, but after launch I can definitely see it.
MADGAME
Member
So Sean said early in the game, players will frequently die so it may behoove you to dive into the economy and trade for resources as opposed to exploring planets and gathering. I'm drawn to the exploration and discovery aspects and also very interested in the idea of progressing to the center of the universe, but don't really want to get bogged down in trading and economy. Do we have an idea how necessary or overbearing the economy will be? Will a player who chooses not to engage in the game's (yes, it is a game) economical systems have their progress hindered?
Can you technically or literally get stuck on a planet if you run out of fuel or resources? Let's say for example you scrape enough fuel to get to a planet and it is barren, are your options to either hope to find enough resources to get somewhere else, or die/restart from last save/checkpoint? What if you travel on planet somewhere and get stuck and don't have enough suit protection/etc to get anywhere? Is reloading a save an option?
Has it been disclosed how to reduced your wanted level?
What, if any, penalties are there for death?
Thanks in advance for the responses. I'm at work and on mobile so replies may be sporadic for me.
Can you technically or literally get stuck on a planet if you run out of fuel or resources? Let's say for example you scrape enough fuel to get to a planet and it is barren, are your options to either hope to find enough resources to get somewhere else, or die/restart from last save/checkpoint? What if you travel on planet somewhere and get stuck and don't have enough suit protection/etc to get anywhere? Is reloading a save an option?
Has it been disclosed how to reduced your wanted level?
What, if any, penalties are there for death?
Thanks in advance for the responses. I'm at work and on mobile so replies may be sporadic for me.
One new tidbit that stuck out for me is that in solar systems there will sometimes still be planets that are really really far away. In one of the interview videos (I think it was the Giant Bomb one) Murray said even though that demo had two planets and a bunch of moons close together, there are other planets in that system so far away you'll need a fuel upgrade to reach them. He said he likes the feel of having to travel for 15 minutes which gives a game a sense of space. It's likely a balancing act between the feel of 70's sci-fi covers and the feel of Elite or Space Engine.
I like the feel of traveling for long stretches of time in Wind Waker or Shadow of the Colossus, but that's usually because you're passing by constantly changing terrain and scenery. In Elite when you're flying to a planet that's extremely far away you're flying through nothing but deep space. Sometimes I'll sit the controller down and check twitter while while doing this. Yeah, in NMS there isn't going to be something "interesting" happening every 15 seconds, and I love that an open-world is intentionally doing this because too many open-world games feel too dense in my opinion, but there's a difference between pretty-looking terrain and empty space.
On the other hand, I wonder if this means multiple systems will be in the game. I'm not talking about just multiple suns. That's what most people think of when they think of systems with multiple stars, but in Elite and Space Engine it usually doesn't turn out like that. Usually what you get are two or three stars, each with their own systems of planets, orbiting each other. The distances at which they orbit each other are usually very small on a cosmological scale but very large on an intra-system scale, like 50-100 astronomical units or something. In Elite it can take 10 minutes to fly between multiple systems at max warp. I've always wondered if systems like this will be in No Man's Sky.
I like the feel of traveling for long stretches of time in Wind Waker or Shadow of the Colossus, but that's usually because you're passing by constantly changing terrain and scenery. In Elite when you're flying to a planet that's extremely far away you're flying through nothing but deep space. Sometimes I'll sit the controller down and check twitter while while doing this. Yeah, in NMS there isn't going to be something "interesting" happening every 15 seconds, and I love that an open-world is intentionally doing this because too many open-world games feel too dense in my opinion, but there's a difference between pretty-looking terrain and empty space.
On the other hand, I wonder if this means multiple systems will be in the game. I'm not talking about just multiple suns. That's what most people think of when they think of systems with multiple stars, but in Elite and Space Engine it usually doesn't turn out like that. Usually what you get are two or three stars, each with their own systems of planets, orbiting each other. The distances at which they orbit each other are usually very small on a cosmological scale but very large on an intra-system scale, like 50-100 astronomical units or something. In Elite it can take 10 minutes to fly between multiple systems at max warp. I've always wondered if systems like this will be in No Man's Sky.
AndrewDean84xX
Banned
I remember being floored by my first 2-3 hours with Minecraft and thinking it was the answer to gaming, but then hour 4 came and I dropped it and haven't played it since. I hope I can rent this game some day.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I would say the absolute opposite. Sony is pouring a lot of resources into the title I would imagine they see it like we do a potential killer app for their VR solution. The interviews about VR have been coming from Playstation specific outlets and he doesn't quantify which platform but it seems more likely he is referencing PS.
metalmachine
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I think I can relate. Its really an awesome concept but I question what what are the other hooks to keep you playing.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I think PSVR/Oculus at Launch.
More_Badass
Member
But "exploration" isnt the only motivation.
You can be gathering resources to trade on the market, doing a quest for an NPC, seeking out monoliths to learn a language, surviving the planet as you get back to your ship, getting supplies to build a tool like a hacking chip to steal something, escaping sentinels, etc.
Just the general goal of getting to the center of the universe gives you purpose and motivation, because to travel effectively, you need to do those things to get better equipment and better ships
Icyflamez96
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At what launch? At NMS launch, or PSVR launch? Do you think PSVR will end up launching with NMS? I think there's a very little chance that they're spending most of their time getting it to run on PSVR rather than just getting the game itself to the point that they want to get it to. Sean was even saying in this past press coverage that the game isn't done yet and there's more work to do and tweaks to make. I guess theoretically he could be talking partly about PSVR, but I highly doubt it. (He did specifically mention certain gameplay elements) I think it's more likely to see Oculus support by NMS's launch just because Oculus is a more powerful device and it'd probably be easier for them to get it working on that than PSVR. I don't really think there's much of a chance that NMS will be PSVR ready by the time the game comes out.
I'm not really sure how many different times you can explain "but what do you even DOOO?"
Exploration is only one of several motivations in Elite: Dangerous. You can choose to explore if that's what you most desire, or you can trade and have enough money to buy better ships or equipment. You can choose to be a bounty hunter and hunt down Wanted criminals or you can choose to be a pirate, stealing and smuggling loot from other ships.
I expect the same in NMS.
I expect the same in NMS.
The game I think i've read lets you play with different objective and play styles.
It seems you can concentrate on exploration, cataloguing plants and animals, point of interest locations (that may have loot/ plans) and buy your equipment/ supplies at outposts after uploading that knowledge at a beacon for monetary reward.
In this sense I do not believe that you HAVE to trade or harvest. Escort/ defend/ piracy is another viable venue in theory.
DOWN
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Y'all are listing off steps to gain resources for the ability to explore in this game. And those little steps/random events/foraging are exactly the thing im afraid will get old. sounds like resource build tasks for exploring
Pestilence11
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While I think the majority of people in this thread get what the game is about, I think the potential for backlash from people buying the game and getting bored is pretty high. The game is very niche and I think a lot of people are going to blindly buy it without knowing that the main hook is exploring and the other systems are there just as a means to do it.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Why would that have anything to do with it being easier? I am willing to bet Sony is committing resources to get the game PSVR ready and when I say at launch I mean when PSVR launches.
I have already adressed that in the post above yours, but this confirms it :
http://www.pcgamer.com/no-mans-sky-how-to-play-a-game-with-18-quintillion-worlds/
But instead of being mono task (which you can be apparently), the game lets you try your hand at tons of different playstyles and mix and match as you'd like / are given opportunities.
More_Badass
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I wonder what exactly means gameplay wise. "Planet sized" sounds impressive, but how long would it take you to walk around a planet? Can planets have continents separated by oceans?
Pop
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The PS Access video did day you could spend like a year wandering a single planet.
If it is indeed (which I do think it is, even if not at launch), it would make sense for them to announce it then to bolster the hype for both PSVR and the game imo.
eyeball_kid
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In the PS Access video one of the guys said they ran out of fuel during a hyperdrive jump, but he was able to mine some asteroids nearby to get enough fuel to continue. I don't know if the game will always give you an "out" or if you can truly get stuck. My guess is that the hyperdrive is fuel-dependent, but the impulse (sub-lightspeed) engines have unlimited fuel. I could be wrong.
I would say a good way to look at this game is to pretend that you're an old-time explorer sailing through the oceans trying to find new worlds. There's new lands to find and animals to document, hostile environments to survive, new people to trade with, and plenty of danger to get caught up in. If that doesn't sound interesting to you, it may not be your kind of game.
Yeah, we've heard "planet-sized planets" from developers for years and then the games come out and they're in no way planet-sized, but Hello seems to have really, truly done it.
Icyflamez96
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Why wouldn't it? It would be easier to optimize and get running for a device that gives them more headroom would it not?
After launch I can definitely see it happening (NMS launch). Just not as NMS launches, and I hope they're not focused on that right now. If NMS has VR support at it's launch, Oculus has a better chance. That's my stance at least. A lot of people think PSVR is going to come out along with NMS which is the notion that I heavily doubt.
More_Badass
Member
Still trying to wrap my mind about that. I can't picture a game world big enough that it would take a year to wander around.
Elite Dangerous has already accomplished this, so it's totally possible and more than likely that NMS will have a similar scale.
...I find that hard to believe. That doesn't really sound fun gameplay-wise.
eyeball_kid
Member
Elite's planets are all barren landscapes though, no? I haven't seen any planets in E
that have flora or fauna.More_Badass
Member
Sean talked about how things get really weird the closer you get to the center of the galaxy.
Really really hoping we get giant celestial species
Really really hoping we get giant celestial species
Do we know if the algoriths can only make lifeless and living planets or could we get like machine planets and flesh planets towards the center? Like really crazy sci-fi stuff
Well I mean, you don't have to do it.
Icyflamez96
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It's just to convey a sense of scale. Obviously you don't have to go around a whole planet for years if you don't want to.
And games already do that.
Fushichou187
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The live demo from last year's E3 gave us a good look at how stuff scales. I don't know if the planet Sean discovered qualifies as a "planet-sized planet", but I know it'd take me quite a while to walk completely around it. Try to keep an eye on the other land masses while he makes his descent, then pay attention to just how large everything is compared to when he finally pops out of the ship. It always blows my mind.
https://youtu.be/mGy8HIYBwV0?t=3m1s
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
You bring up good points I just think Sony believes it to be a huge title to generate momentum for PSVR and as such I think they will go to great lengths to ensure when you pick up a PSVR at launch its compatible with NMS. Just my thoughts though, I could be wrong.
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
Did you even listen? He says "VR would be great in NMS but we are a small team, so ..." - it's not happening.
This game mixed with Gunbuster would be the greatest thing ever.
DOWN
Banned
I bet that will bore a lot of gamers who want to have a campaign or plot rather than trying to imagine their own scenario to motivate them in an exploring procedural game that Murray says never ends