nowhat
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That's what she said!
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DF - Assassin's Creed Valhalla: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S Next-Gen Comparison!
Indeed. They have focused so much on hardware power that now it's totally backfiring since they have not delivered.
And they don't have much else going for them since first party games are not there, they don't have innovative features in the controller or in the UI.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
It was what was meant to cover their embarrassing launch title situation - best for multiplats.
But PS5 outperforming it across the board was not what they were expecting.
Venom Snake
Member
I'm pretty sure XSX/XSS will get some performance patches in the near future. Even Ubisoft isn't shitty enough to leave it that way.
ethomaz
Banned
He is not posting in GAF anymore... since today morning.
sircaw
Banned
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Magic Carpet
Gold Member
15% of $500 is $75.
Xbox needs to reduce the price of the console to $425.
Either that or get this sorted out. I plan to make Xbox my 3rd party home and this is disappointing.
Xbox needs to reduce the price of the console to $425.
Either that or get this sorted out. I plan to make Xbox my 3rd party home and this is disappointing.
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Fixed lol.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
I told
VFXVeteran
that this was going to happen. But he threw his industry credentials at me and said I was wrong. That sense the XSS had the same SSD and similar CPU as the XSX, that it'll just be a resolution different only. Looks who's wrong now.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
Some people try to paint me green when I am painted red, no idea why. (Its in my damn photo you nerds)At least your showing your face, unlike half of the other cowards.
I have said positive and negative things about all brands. Grow up people.
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basic_element
Member
Why play great when you can play 25% GREATER?
Mr Moose
Member
Series X should be 12.14, too
ethomaz
Banned
Well the machine 15% ahead costs $399.
Can you give it a rest, FFS?
Entroyp
Member
sircaw
Banned
Well from my side you def come across as Green, like 80% to maybe 20%. i have no idea why you think your 50/50 that is just not true at least from an outsiders view point.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
I don't notice much difference until someone sticks graphs under the footage, already bought the XB version and I have 25 hours on it. I'd rather continue to have fun with it then trading it in and rebuying it on another platform.
But as I said, it gives me something to keep an eye on for future purchases. Right now it is looking like PS may be better going forward for third party stuff if the current trend continues.
balls of snow
Member
Because of 60fps. Drop it to 30 and its 4k locked and loaded.
VanEs
Member
ToadMan
Member
Well hate is a strong word but I lol’d at him after the Halo Infinite demo.
I mean, everyone could see it looked rough and so we waited for DF to give us the gory details. Alex first said he was tired so he didn’t do any analysis for a couple of days.
By then people were already saying to delay it and MS was fire fighting hard - “we thought this is what fans wanted!”
Then Alex put out his analysis which basically went - “this may look bad now, but just add RT and this will look great!” Didn’t look at any of the stuff that was obviously subpar. Bear in mind that for the prior PS gameplay reveal they’d gone to microscopic detail to analyse the performance and content.
So after that people started to question his integrity (and indeed the whole of DF).
Tiamat2san
Member
MS , you have one year to change that.
If not I’ll buy all my 3rd party games on PS5 and an asymmetrical gamepad for PS5 because fuck symmetrical analog sticks.
If not I’ll buy all my 3rd party games on PS5 and an asymmetrical gamepad for PS5 because fuck symmetrical analog sticks.
Knitted Knight
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papersleeves
Member
As expected. Currently playing the game on Series X right now and it echoes my experience with the game. Thankfully, I have a LG CX with VRR so the tearing are non-existent and the drops in FPS are much less obtrusive, but the frame-pacing issues during cut-scenes are still very perceptible and annoying. It's not only the one cut-scene at the beginning of the game that does this. You also have another 60 fps in-game cut-scene when claiming your first settlement in England where it's very apparent. I bet many more are affected too.
If I didn't have a VRR display though, I'd be very upset with all that tearing. Currently the game is fine with VRR display, but Ubisoft will most likely try to eliminate the tearing in the Series X version, probably by diminishing the minimum resolution, which will solve the issue for most but downgrade the experience for people with VRR display.
It's disappointing to say the least.
Also, one thing I've noticed. Alex claims that the PS5 can perform up to 15% better than its Series X counterpart. But there is a moment in their video comparison where you can clearly see the Series X maintaining 47 fps while the PS5 is holding its 60 fps target. At this moment, the PS5 is performing nearly 28% better than the Series X (60/47=1.27659).
I own both consoles. I was expecting to purchase multi-platform games on Series X due to the collective perception of the console having better specs. But if this trend continues, I'll need to find a decent SSD storage extension upgrade for my PS5 because it won't just be home for exclusives
If I didn't have a VRR display though, I'd be very upset with all that tearing. Currently the game is fine with VRR display, but Ubisoft will most likely try to eliminate the tearing in the Series X version, probably by diminishing the minimum resolution, which will solve the issue for most but downgrade the experience for people with VRR display.
It's disappointing to say the least.
Also, one thing I've noticed. Alex claims that the PS5 can perform up to 15% better than its Series X counterpart. But there is a moment in their video comparison where you can clearly see the Series X maintaining 47 fps while the PS5 is holding its 60 fps target. At this moment, the PS5 is performing nearly 28% better than the Series X (60/47=1.27659).
I own both consoles. I was expecting to purchase multi-platform games on Series X due to the collective perception of the console having better specs. But if this trend continues, I'll need to find a decent SSD storage extension upgrade for my PS5 because it won't just be home for exclusives
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
MisterXDTV
Member
FunkMiller
Banned
Not the first. Won’t be the last. Usually the ones shouting the most go quietest the fastest when reality hits.
What was said was, "Series X definitely needs some work, this version of the game.... The tearing is extremely distracting. It's just not good enough."Based on what they said, that is good performance by xbox series x.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Your understanding of English is great. And you are correct. Alex should have said, "in some scenes, the PS5 performs 15% better, but up to 25% better in others".
ChuckeRearmed
Member
After all these comparisons I have come to the conclusion that it has nothing to do with Xbox being weaker than PS5.
The thing is that it is not underperforming due to textures or effects or bigger crowds or whatever. It literally lacks optimization as these arbitrary FPS drops are basically the thing that has been plaguing PC gaming for decades and is ususally fixed via patches. So I think XSX will be fine. So basically it is GDK issue.
The thing is that it is not underperforming due to textures or effects or bigger crowds or whatever. It literally lacks optimization as these arbitrary FPS drops are basically the thing that has been plaguing PC gaming for decades and is ususally fixed via patches. So I think XSX will be fine. So basically it is GDK issue.
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geordiemp
Member
This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
assurdum
Banned
Let me say, it's just secondary if on the article they point out for the whole time how it's problematic or bugged is it on Xbox platform?
Mr Moose
Member
Colteastwood is hurting.
20-50% performance gap? In PS5s favour?
He's such a clown
I see that ex Sony dev is hovering around in the replies.
nikolino840
Member
Seems that some are more glad about the version of a console that don't own instead of being happy about the version of the console that they own
ethomaz
Banned
Of course he as thinking on 15% Xbox advantage.
nowhat
Member
He's a veteran Xbox fan - he know you need to wait for the next E3. Or the next.Colteastwood is hurting.
Aceofspades
Banned
For the people that bought into the muliplat bullshit performance better on the xbox spin, the good news is you still have receipts and it's law that you are allowed to return your product for a refund within 30 days.
I tried to warn them that something was fishy (No disrespect) when they did not want to show Xbox Series X gameplay until after people buy the Xbox Series X
Only a few days until Xbox Series X preorders start and we still don't know how games will look on the worlds most powerful console
Do they want people to buy the console without actually seeing what it can do? They don't seem to have a problem showing off the Xbox Series S but for the Series X they seem to want us to use our imagination. Will there be a Xbox Series X show before the preorders start? There is only one...
Donarudo
Member
This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
See my post, he said he made a mistake.
ethomaz
Banned
In 5 years I hope we are starting the next-gen talk... PS6.
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
So because I said I expect Xbox to have better mutli plats and was wrong that makes me not 50/50? Come off it man. You have been here what? Little over a year? I worked in this industry for 5 years and have been here for close to 5. You dont know my history and you dont know my preferences. Believe whatever you want to believe. But this painting of people based on the little exposure you have to them like you are in prison is beyond stupid.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
It's just forum drama that goes back at least a couple of years in the next gen speculation threads. I don't think anyone really cares. Most of us own vrr tv's anyway.
sircaw
Banned
I tried to warn them that something was fishy (No disrespect) when they did not want to show Xbox Series X gameplay until after people buy the Xbox Series X
Only a few days until Xbox Series X preorders start and we still don't know how games will look on the worlds most powerful console
Do they want people to buy the console without actually seeing what it can do? They don't seem to have a problem showing off the Xbox Series S but for the Series X they seem to want us to use our imagination. Will there be a Xbox Series X show before the preorders start? There is only one...www.neogaf.com
You can take a horse to water but you can't make them drink.
Spot on mate.
assurdum
Banned
15 per cent in favour of ps5 hurts less.This is bugging me way too much. It's straight up misleading to have DF write this in the article. Math simply doesnt add up.
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