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[Gambit2483]

And yet it's still one of the top 3 best looking games on PS3. I'd love some lies like that nowadays....where games despite bullshots actually end up hella impressive but nope we're stuck with the most dissapointing graphical generation there has ever been,with talentless programmers and soulless looking games.Gaming trully has become a business in every sense of the word.No passion left in western companies it's all about that dough and the content to fill their subscription.

Thank God for the japanese and indie devs.

Agreed, we are definitely in a worse place now. There's no passion left in the West anymore once the corpo suits completely took over.

 

[Barakov]

Meanwhile …

 

[shamoomoo]

Who did they ask, this guy?

The article does mention lifelike graphics but they are referring to slums,ghettoes,and blight. There are levels to lifelike-ness.

 

[Kvally]

Sadly all the developers and publishers do this

 

[RickMasters]

Assumptions. I build a pc recently and it will be my main platform after being a console gamer for 30 years. There are also pc gamers who switch to console. Never and always are dumb words.

I own 3 custom built PCs ( and two macs) primarily for music production. Even built them myself…. All of them liquid cooled the weakest one has an over clocked i9 the strongest is an 18 core x299 build….NVME and SSD drives throughout…. Powerful GPUs, in all of them. I even play a few games on them. That said….. I have no desire to make any of my PCs my main gaming platform. Using that as a beacon of perspective here….. I would not consider myself a PC gamer. Inspite of having better hardware for gaming than most people who actually build PCs for gaming. Console gamers are generally not i streets don building their own. They are not interested in delicately placing the cpu into the motherboard of gently forcing NVMes and RAM into delicate slots. I doubt most even know what a grounding strap is….. these are not assumptions. These are the reason console gamers are console gamers and PC gamers are PC gamers. Console gamers just want a silent, simple box that boots up in seconds and they can get straight into a game. PC gaming is not like that….. you log in…. You wait a lil while…. You load you game and hopefully…. It's not a buggy unoptimised mess. Console gamers don't deal with that. They are not interested in making corrections to registry's caused by corrupted files. I'm fact…. They barely understand PCs!


For me PCs are primarily for work and productivity.


For most people they just want a simple dedicated gaming device that sits under the TV and they can enjoy from the couch. The PC is not that device.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

I just got the game yesterday.

I'm on PC and on an RTX 3080 with everything set to max. The game looks nothing special and a lot worse than what I personally expected.

I am disappointed.

 

[DJ12]

I just got the game yesterday.

I'm on PC and on an RTX 3080 with everything set to max. The game looks nothing special and a lot worse than what I personally expected.

I am disappointed.

It's not the generational leap some people have been making out, in many cases it's worse than the game it measures itself against. (Comparing PC to PS5)

 

[Flutta]

And who Will call out DF for being MS lill bitch?

 

[demigod]

96 fps

PC peasants

 

[demigod]

And who Will call out DF for being MS lill bitch?

This guy HeisenbergFX4

 

[Hawking Radiation]

It's not the generational leap some people have been making out, in many cases it's worse than the game it measures itself against. (Comparing PC to PS5)

Yeah I didn't want ot make that comparison because I don't want to start unecessary arguments on that as there's a different thread for comparing racing game visuals.

BUT I did expect a lot more from Turn10 and espcially the PC version of the game. I can understand if this was the standard for consoles. Hopefully they can 'beautify' the game in future updates on PC?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Team Andromeda]

Sure sure, something is really off with the lighting. I only have this issue with this game and Starfield which has the same levels of grey, but instead you choose to call it system bashing. Great stuff.

And the rumble really just is terrible, but then again, that is actually because of the controller hardware.

Your 'games list' was system bashing and you really showed yourself for what you are...

 

[Team Andromeda]

Accessing the work arounds on PC are way more accessable though.
PC is an open platform.
DF isn't saying you can't access work arounds on consoles.
I feel way more comfortable withy collection of games on PC working into future than my collection of games on consoles working into the future on future console platforms.

BC is not 100% on the PC and Alex was very disingenuous in the way he talked of BC on the PC. I have many games that no longer work on a modern PC. Unless you look to buy them on Steam or download a workaround; Both of which you need the internet for added irony
There are workarounds for console games, be that at worst Emu or at best using an SD card to play those classic games with no need for physical media on your console and I started my gaming life on the ZX Spectrum in 1983 one had trouble loading games up back then, never mind now (if you still have have a tape deck) so Richard point was rather silly on that score too, like it was over Smart Delivery

 

[systemr123]

Your 'games list' was system bashing and you really showed yourself for what you are...

Really? I thought I literally named some games that I actually liked, but they are niche games. Wouldn't call that system bashing. And I forgot to mention Starfield even.

But ok maybe it does show me for what I am. Someone who enjoys playing video games but can also be critic of them. Also, has nothing to do with what system they are on. If the game would be crap on ps5 or Switch, or anything else I'll still be critic of it.

E.G. I said I enjoy playing Starfield myself, but I can see why it's not a high quality game and why many people wouldn't like it.

Maybe this shows more of what you are, an MS defender to the death, unable to see what is good and what is not. Blinded by MS is the godz.

 

[Team Andromeda]

I owned a Series X until this morning. Sold it because FM was the only reason I still had it. Am I now bashing?

No just trolling, Bye-bye!!!

 

[Team Andromeda]

Really? I thought I literally named some games that I actually liked, but they are niche games. Wouldn't call that system bashing. And I forgot to mention Starfield even.

But ok maybe it does show me for what I am. Someone who enjoys playing video games but can also be critic of them. Also, has nothing to do with what system they are on. If the game would be crap on ps5 or Switch, or anything else I'll still be critic of it.

E.G. I said I enjoy playing Starfield myself, but I can see why it's not a high quality game and why many people wouldn't like it.

Maybe this shows more of what you are, an MS defender to the death, unable to see what is good and what is not. Blinded by MS is the godz.

Please anytime someone needs to make a 'list' of games that are 'crap' on a system. One knows the game you are playing Jim

 

[systemr123]

Please anytime someone needs to make a 'list' of games that are 'crap' on a system. One knows the game you are playing Jim

Oh wow going full delusional now, I'm not Jim, I'm sorry. Maybe you should go see a doctor and talk about your state of mind.

Also, I can promise you if Spider-Man 2 comes out broken and as a terrible game, I'll be just as critic of it. But then again, we can say with more than 90% certainty it will turn out great. I know it pains you but you don't have to project your insecurities about your box/games of choice on me.

Ps: I didn't create a list of games that are crap on the system. Maybe you should read again. I made a list of games that I think are nice, but I understand why people wouldn't buy them.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I own 3 custom built PCs ( and two macs) primarily for music production. Even built them myself…. All of them liquid cooled the weakest one has an over clocked i9 the strongest is an 18 core x299 build….NVME and SSD drives throughout…. Powerful GPUs, in all of them. I even play a few games on them. That said….. I have no desire to make any of my PCs my main gaming platform. Using that as a beacon of perspective here….. I would not consider myself a PC gamer. Inspite of having better hardware for gaming than most people who actually build PCs for gaming. Console gamers are generally not i streets don building their own. They are not interested in delicately placing the cpu into the motherboard of gently forcing NVMes and RAM into delicate slots. I doubt most even know what a grounding strap is….. these are not assumptions. These are the reason console gamers are console gamers and PC gamers are PC gamers. Console gamers just want a silent, simple box that boots up in seconds and they can get straight into a game. PC gaming is not like that….. you log in…. You wait a lil while…. You load you game and hopefully…. It's not a buggy unoptimised mess. Console gamers don't deal with that. They are not interested in making corrections to registry's caused by corrupted files. I'm fact…. They barely understand PCs!


For me PCs are primarily for work and productivity.


For most people they just want a simple dedicated gaming device that sits under the TV and they can enjoy from the couch. The PC is not that device.

PC, HDMI cable to TV and a Dualsense controller. The PC is now that device

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

No just trolling, Bye-bye!!!

Whatever makes you sleep at night sunshine. It's a fact. (Still have my One X for Forza 7 though)
Fun thing is, when you call bs, it's up to you to prove it. So by all means GO!

Meanwhile I got a receipt lying on my desk for a PS5 +FC24 for 498 euros. Fuck you.

Bye-bye!!!

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Sadly all the developers and publishers do this

Not really.

 

[MonkeyClaw36]

Your 'games list' was system bashing and you really showed yourself for what you are...

Just stop it you inbred troll. And you call others trolls!? Holy shit, the sheer levels of hypocrisy are someting I've never seen before. And I was a member of ResetEra. Says a lot.
Log out, have wank, a smile and juuuuuuust STFU.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Is any of this 'downgrading' due to making it run on the Series S?

 

[Kvally]

Not really.

Yes, really.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Yes, really.

No matter how many times you scream this, unless you're prepared to prove otherwise, the answer is still no. They don't all do this.

 

[Negotiator101]

No matter how many times you scream this, unless you're prepared to prove otherwise, the answer is still no. They don't all do this.

Sony first party regularly do it, Ubisoft ( all the time), CDPR, Bungie, 343i, EA.

 

[TheTony316]

PC, HDMI cable to TV and a Dualsense controller. The PC is now that device

Yeah but you still need a keyboard and mouse for everything that isn't big picture mode. PC is riddled with launchers that don't support controller navigation and many games tend to launch on windowed mode, which is annoying.

It mostly works well but it isn't as fast or convenient as a console.

And most people just don't want to have a gaming PC in their living room.

 

[The Last Ninja]

PC, HDMI cable to TV and a Dualsense controller. The PC is now that device

Don't forget the keyboard & mouse for when you get that popup that asks if you want to play in DX11 or DX12!

 

[TheTony316]

Don't forget the keyboard & mouse for when you get that popup that asks if you want to play in DX11 or DX12!

Or when you launch Cyberpunk through Steam and it opens the GOG launcher instead!

 

[jroc74]

Sony first party regularly do it, Ubisoft ( all the time), CDPR, Bungie, 343i, EA.

Bad faith argument is bad.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Sony first party regularly do it, Ubisoft ( all the time), CDPR, Bungie, 343i, EA.

I see. That's everyone. Got it.

I'm curious (this should be good) what Sony 1st Party games looked significantly worse at launch than their reveal since the start of the PS4 days? Should be easy, given that's only 10 years. Name them.

 

[j0hnnix]

Built from the ground up for 6 years

Heard that before from a voice in a field full of stars.

 

[Insane Metal]

Built from the ground up

 

[skit_data]

Built from the ground up

This one is pretty realistic though:

I'd also go "wtf are all these people doing?" in that situation

 

[Three]

Built from the ground up

Somebody has set it to low settings and is trolling most likely in those shots. There is no way any part of the track is that bad. Is there?

 

[Turk1993]

Somebody has set it to low settings and is trolling most likely in those shots. There is no way any part of the track is that bad. Is there?

Its zoomed in photomode shots, remember Forza doesn't render the zoomed in area in photomode. The distance lod stays the same in the area you start the photomode. And it could be also low settings on top of that ofcourse.

 

[Insane Metal]

Somebody has set it to low settings and is trolling most likely in those shots. There is no way any part of the track is that bad. Is there?

I've seen lots of footage with details looking like that

 

[Turk1993]

I've seen lots of footage with details looking like that

Bruh stop trolling, its obviously zoomed in shot from the top of the corkscrew. Its taken from 500m further and zoomed the fuck in.

T Three i was right.

 

[demigod]

Sony first party regularly do it, Ubisoft ( all the time), CDPR, Bungie, 343i, EA.

Bad faith argument is bad.

I see. That's everyone. Got it.

I'm curious (this should be good) what Sony 1st Party games looked significantly worse at launch than their reveal since the start of the PS4 days? Should be easy, given that's only 10 years. Name them.

Well? We're waiting.

 

[Insane Metal]

Bruh stop trolling, its obviously zoomed in shot from the top of the corkscrew. Its taken from 500m further and zoomed the fuck in.

T Three i was right.

Trolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.

BTW is this comparison true? I know it's a cherry picked image, it's not mine. Found it somehwere else.

 

[Three]

Well? We're waiting.

Oh no you're going to reawaken "puddlegate".

Trolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.

I suppose this is because the camera in replays sometimes zooms and waits for a car to come over a hill or something so you get a lot of long distance footage showing these low detail backgrounds. It's bizarre that they've not tied the LOD to the view frustum somehow though. I guess that means telephoto shots with a high fstop won't look good in forza either.

 

[Turk1993]

Trolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.

BTW is this comparison true? I know it's a cherry picked image, it's not mine. Found it somehwere else.

Yeah nice, again with the found it somewhere lol, let me guess Emula86 on twitter . Typical scape mode shots from him. Yes we all know scape car models are the best models ever. But they are never in real time outside scape mode and car buying preview. And why do you post random stuff from people without knowing where its coming from or how its captured. How you feel if i post some random troll pictures of GT7 and act like you and say here i found something somewhere. And yeah it happens in every game because it has zoomed in camera angles. Every racing game has this.

 

[Turk1993]

Oh no you're going to reawaken "puddlegate".


I suppose this is because the camera in replays sometimes zooms and waits for a car to come over a hill or something so you get a lot of long distance footage showing these low detail backgrounds. It's bizarre that they've not tied the LOD to the view frustum somehow though. I guess that means telephoto shots with a high fstop won't look good in forza either.

The photomode is the same as always. Zero improvements shamefully. Its still the same in game graphics with the only additions been downsampling and bokeh.

 

[Insane Metal]

Yeah nice, again with the found it somewhere lol, let me guess Emula86 on twitter . Typical scape mode shots from him. Yes we all know scape car models are the best models ever. But they are never in real time outside scape mode and car buying preview. And why do you post random stuff from people without knowing where its coming from or how its captured. How you feel if i post some random troll pictures of GT7 and act like you and say here i found something somewhere. And yeah it happens in every game because it has zoomed in camera angles. Every racing game has this.

No on a brazilian board I am part of. I don't see twitter.

 

[Turk1993]

No on a brazilian board I am part of. I don't see twitter.

What a coincidence hes also brazilian, just like our fellow banned brazilian friend.

 

[mckmas8808]

Trolling? A few days Ago I captured some shots from a review showing stuff like that. It usually happens in replays.

BTW is this comparison true? I know it's a cherry picked image, it's not mine. Found it somehwere else.

Where is the 2nd image from?

 

[Turk1993]

Where is the 2nd image from?

Scapemode in GT7, its one of the museum interiors where you can get the camera closer to the car.

 

[adamsapple]

Meanwhile …

Naw that can't be ....

Ok, I can see why.

 

[mckmas8808]

Scapemode in GT7, its one of the museum interiors where you can get the camera closer to the car.

JESUS!!! Is that real-time for GT7? Or all fake?

 

[digoutyoursoul]

John has appeared on Jez Corden and the other guy who calls it X BAWKS YouTube stream the Xbox Two , it's only available on Patreon at the moment. I wonder if this topic will enter the conversation.

 

[Turk1993]

JESUS!!! Is that real-time for GT7? Or all fake?

No, just the car model in a 2d background photomode. The headlight and taillight details in GT7 are the best out of any game tho. They are unrivaled when it comes to those details.