We are now 4 years into Gen9, how many truly Gen9 games do you consider there to be?

I consider everything that's not also available on the previous system to be a next-gen game just on the basis that you need the next-gen system to play that software.
 
None of them. The best looking games to this day were on PS4 such as TLOU2, Uncharted 4, Forbidden West. The king is still Cyberpunk 2077 tho but on PC. Developers were so aces that they could easily fake realistic lighting and shadowing so much that makes games with RT look samey/worse. Im not sure what the future holds but so far we've reached diminishing returns to its lowest(highest?) point. RTGI and emiisive lighting/path tracing is nice tho, but even those were nicely faked before and far less demanding. Stutters have increased over the past years as well. Gen 10 sucks atm and very few games are truly worth talking about visually.

We've had memes and talks about Crysis for like 7 years or so. Name one UE5 that we're still talking about or we will still be talking about in 7 years if we can run it or surpass it. Yeah, exactly. Hell. people are buying a PS5 Pro just to replay said games at higher resolution/fidelity, and no one gives a shit about any modern ones lmao.
 
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Hellblade 2 fr.

For me, not other game comes even close to that. It is the only game that resembles that epic demo ue5 we got back then.
 
The particle orgy of Returnal at 60 fps back in the day gave me next gen feels.

Demon's Souls with the fast loading and the overall image fidelity at 60 fps.

Alan Wake 2 and Silent Hill 2 lighting.
 
My list…

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Cyberpunk 2077 with path-tracing
Alan Wake 2
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Hellblade 2
Demon's Souls remake
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Final Fantasy XVI
The Last of Us Part I remake
Silent Hill 2
I'd argue The Witcher 3 next-gen update lived up to it's name
 
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None of the newer games look any different than a lot of the older ones, and some don't even play as well, and i haven't been really wowed by any games since the already mentioned Crysis days, UE5 and DX12 haven't impressed me so far, a lot of cartoony, coloufull games being released also.
 
Killer8 said:
Cyberpunk 2077 with path-tracing
Alan Wake 2
Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Hellblade 2
Demon's Souls remake
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Final Fantasy XVI
The Last of Us Part I remake
Silent Hill 2
I'd argue The Witcher 3 next-gen update lived up to it's name
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Good list.

I'd personally throw Space Marine 2 in as well, but besides that I'm struggling to think of any more.
 
Hellblade 2, especially the Illtauga volcano part.
Flight Sim when the weather and time of day hit just right.

But this is all graphics, it's sad that there is no next gen physics game and everything is still behind Crackdown 2 or RDR 2.
 
The Cockatrice said:
None of them. The best looking games to this day were on PS4 such as TLOU2, Uncharted 4, Forbidden West. The king is still Cyberpunk 2077 tho but on PC. Developers were so aces that they could easily fake realistic lighting and shadowing so much that makes games with RT look samey/worse. Im not sure what the future holds but so far we've reached diminishing returns to its lowest(highest?) point. RTGI and emiisive lighting/path tracing is nice tho, but even those were nicely faked before and far less demanding. Stutters have increased over the past years as well. Gen 10 sucks atm and very few games are truly worth talking about visually.

We've had memes and talks about Crysis for like 7 years or so. Name one UE5 that we're still talking about or we will still be talking about in 7 years if we can run it or surpass it. Yeah, exactly. Hell. people are buying a PS5 Pro just to replay said games at higher resolution/fidelity, and no one gives a shit about any modern ones lmao.
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It's a looker but I would hardly call it next gen with that retarded police AI.
 
Rift apart has what a little bit fur and crispy graphics than last gen? I honestly don't think there was 1 game that came close to rdr2 and that was a gen 9 game .
I think the only true gen 10 game is flight simulator
 
Anything that use haptics and adaptive triggers well. Feels next gen to me. For looks, anything running on the decima engine pretty much. Or Insomniac stuff (even though I dont rate the gameplay high). Visually the Pro is really shining for me. Core gameplay mechanics wise, nothing much has changed.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Outriders the first true current gen game?

I feel like if I'm truly missing sequels, I just play games I've never played before, and shockingly, I get what I missed from older games and much more.

10th gen is gonna be a mix of the game I mentioned and it shouldn't bother anyone who's looking just for sequels, and the sequels we are always waiting for.

I expect around 300 true 10th gen games we care about because of AI.
 
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SHA said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Outriders the first true current gen game?

I feel like if I'm truly missing sequels, I just play games I've never played before, and shockingly, I get what I missed from older games and much more.

10th gen is gonna be a mix of the game I mentioned and it shouldn't bother anyone who's looking just for sequels, and the sequels we always waiting for.
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Outriders is cross-gen.
 
Now with the Pro?
More than last week.

I always think this is a weird question though, especially since it doesn't really matter to me as I always give my last-gen console away the moment I get my current-gen system.

As long as current-gen features get supported in some way.
 
Black Myth's the closest we've come imo, but it's not really doing anything special apart from its visuals. This generation has, largely, been a bust on that front, save for Quick Resume. It's basically just a few showcase titles like Hellblade 2, though frankly I can't be bothered playing any more of that. All that extra hardware, and the best we've got are badly optimised games and "more accurate reflections". I suspect this generation will be remembered as the one where generations basically died. Cross-gen games, more "remasters" than new releases; it's pretty much down to Rockstar and GTAVI to deliver something that's actually "next-gen". Which, when you think about it, starts to raise questions about the need for new hardware when it's clear developers kinda aren't bothering to use the current machines properly.
 
Gen 10 basically is gen 9 pro

With the PS5 pro it's gen 9 pro+

Same stiff gameplay with a crisper picture. Give me gameplay innovations plz.
 
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Luigi's mansion 3 looks amazing.
Especially the cut scenes running on the game engine.

Cedric The Entertainer GIF by CBS


ToTK for the in game madness you could create should you wish.
 
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Loading times, strongly improved haptic feedback and trigger feedback (on DualSense), visual fidelity (and things happening on screen) and general smoothness and heavily reduced stutter. The combination of all of it.

Many games too numerous to list achieve this.

I'm 90% PC player and use RT whenever I can and I'm still impressed by the PS5. Really enjoy the overall experience. Even the little things like a lag-free store couldn't achieved on old-ass PS4 era hardware.
 
Helldivers 2. It is the only game from a gameplay perspective that could not be replicated on last gen consoles without significant downgrades. 4 person co-op game having 100+ enemies on screen with countless explosions. All while sustaining 60FPS on consoles. The engine is pure wizardry. I feel like UE5 would crash and burn if it tried to replicate
 
I would say "many indie games now have very pretty graphics", things like nobody wants to die etc. The performance boosts of this gen's hardware, paired with improved engines means even small companies can push the boat out in terms of visuals without only being able to achieve such visual heights with large teams of extremely talented artists and programmers and crazy optimisation hacks.
 
Cyberpunk 2077 (PC version)
Alan Wake 2 (PC version)
Returnal
Hellblade 2 (PC version)
Demons Souls remake (visuals)
Wukong Black Myth (PC version)
 
Stupid thread, gen is an outdated concept, PS4 and PS5 shares the same architecture and consoles are basically PCs now, anything can run on PS4 if you downgrade enough, yes Demon's Souls and Returnal could run on PS4, they simply chose not to.
 
Kacho said:
Can't name a single one. Everything feels like PS4/XBO games with slightly better graphics.
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Really? Didn't you really like Space Marine 2?

From me, I'd say Last Of Us 1 remake
Demon Souls remake
Dead Space remake
Starfield
Starwars Outlaws
FFVII remake part 2
Stellar Blade
Ronin
Banjo64 said:
It's a looker but I would hardly call it next gen with that retarded police AI.
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This.

That game is struggling with even matching the fucking AI from PS3 or PS4 games for anyone to be stating "next gen" regarding it.
 
brenobnfm said:
Stupid thread, gen is an outdated concept, PS4 and PS5 shares the same architecture and consoles are basically PCs now, anything can run on PS4 if you downgrade enough
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Infinite scalability....riiiight.
Tell me you have no clue about hard- and software without telling me you have no clue about hard- and software
 
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brenobnfm said:
Stupid thread, gen is an outdated concept, PS4 and PS5 shares the same architecture and consoles are basically PCs now, anything can run on PS4 if you downgrade enough, yes Demon's Souls and Returnal could run on PS4, they simply chose not to.
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Switch strategy
 
The Cockatrice said:
None of them. The best looking games to this day were on PS4 such as TLOU2, Uncharted 4, Forbidden West. The king is still Cyberpunk 2077 tho but on PC. Developers were so aces that they could easily fake realistic lighting and shadowing so much that makes games with RT look samey/worse. Im not sure what the future holds but so far we've reached diminishing returns to its lowest(highest?) point. RTGI and emiisive lighting/path tracing is nice tho, but even those were nicely faked before and far less demanding. Stutters have increased over the past years as well. Gen 10 sucks atm and very few games are truly worth talking about visually.

We've had memes and talks about Crysis for like 7 years or so. Name one UE5 that we're still talking about or we will still be talking about in 7 years if we can run it or surpass it. Yeah, exactly. Hell. people are buying a PS5 Pro just to replay said games at higher resolution/fidelity, and no one gives a shit about any modern ones lmao.
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Gears of war: E day looks fantastic though.
 
In terms of graphics? TBH really just Demon Souls Remake. A few other Sony exclusives get close, but I'd argue aren't consistent through the entire game. Demon Souls has the benefit of amazing art design from the OG dev (FROM) and small environments so perhaps it isn't a fair comparison.
 
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