Assassin's Creed Shadows - At least it's not two dudes...

Lokaum D+

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I don't know the answer because I haven't played the game. Have you?
i dont, but i m 99,9% sure that she being gay or not has absolutily ZERO importance to the story, tbh i think that this romances in video games, gay or not, 90% break the agency of the game ( dont know if i m using agency right here since i m no english speaker ) like, "oh no, someone is killing our ppl, now lets fuck" get it ?
 
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Danjin44

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They're optional.

Both protagonist can romance a guy or a girl.

This has been repeated multiple times already.
If thats the case then I dont see the issue here, this was same case with game like Cyberpunk and Mass Effect, was it not?
 
They have no problem with hundreds of Hentai games on their Japanese child-friendly consoles though.

You leave my ecchi collection on Switch out of this! Those are puzzle games, damnit!

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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If thats the case then I dont see the issue here, this was same case with game like Cyberpunk and Mass Effect, was it not?

Correct. It's been like that in the last couple of AC games too. Odyssey and Valhalla, you could romance either a guy or girl playing as the male or female protagonist.

Mirage was a smaller game and had a character who had a fixed story so there was no romance in that game at all.

Folks just straight up lying about the game to get traction online, like the big-ass thumbnail with "TRANS" on it a few posts above. Shit's got absolutely nothing to do with the game, lol.
 
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Arachnid

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Romance can have its place in these games, Ezio's romance with Cristina and later with Sofia, or Edward and Caroline and especially Bayek and Aya were all for the better of those games' stories imo.
But romance options, or protagonist options for that matter I agree with you, they have no place in these games.
AC games are at their strongest when they have a very clearly defined path and story, it's no wonder there hasn't been much praise for the story of these games since Origins which was the last one which didn't go full on RPG mode in its storytelling...
Yeah, IMO these games SHOULD have some sort of romance option. We're playing some pretty old individuals throughout years of their life, and experiencing their memories through their descendants. Literally all of them canonically fell in love or at least sprayed around some kids lmao. Do these people think these characters went decades of their life not pursuing any kind of relationship outside of professionally? Hell, Ezio was canonically a man whore even before we took over playing him if I remember correctly. The flip side to that is that they are all either straight or bi. Either way, any romance is entirely optional, so it's not really hurting anyone to include it. IMO they just need to do a better job writing it.

I also don't remember anyone bitching about Yennifer or Triss. Or Miranda/Ashley/Tali/Liara in Mass Effect.

It also does make sense to include romance in an RPG. It's a very human experience, and people like relating in an RPG. Same reason you get romance outside of romance novels/movies. It's normal.
 
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Ceadeus

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When was the last time Japanese had to represent American culture? They're so self centered they never cared to ever try! at least we fucking try and show interest. And then if they tried and ended up misrepresenting American, we would have a good laugh and that's all!

Also I'm sure everyone can read these games are all work of FICTION.
 

GudOlRub

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Gay people in Japan? Total propaganda! Nobody should look up Ihara Saikaku for example.
I have some more propaganda! More specifically, Japanese propaganda for the 1905 Russo-Japanese war.
The only people who are disrespecting Japanese culture here are the ones who have no idea the Japanese didn't have any qualms with homosexuality. With the exception of a few periods here and there throughout their history.
Yes there is an uncensored version of this image which shows some shaft and balls, not going to share it here obviously

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Zathalus

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When was the last time Japanese had to represent American culture? They're so self centered they never cared to ever try! at least we fucking try and show interest. And then if they tried and ended up misrepresenting American, we would have a good laugh and that's all!

Also I'm sure everyone can read these games are all work of FICTION.
They represent American culture quite well. Here is an accurate recipe for American style Ramen:

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GudOlRub

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Yeah, IMO these games SHOULD have some sort of romance option. We're playing some pretty old individuals throughout years of their life, and experiencing their memories through their descendants. Literally all of them canonically fell in love or at least sprayed around some kids lmao. Do these people think these characters went decades of their life not pursuing any kind of relationship outside of professionally? Hell, Ezio was canonically a man whore even before we took over playing him if I remember correctly. The flip side to that is that they are all either straight or bi. Either way, any romance is entirely optional, so it's not really hurting anyone to include it. IMO they just need to do a better job writing it.

I also don't remember anyone bitching about Yennifer or Triss. Or Miranda/Ashley/Tali/Liara in Mass Effect.

It also does make sense to include romance in an RPG. It's a very human experience, and people like relating in an RPG. Same reason you get romance outside of romance novels/movies. It's normal.
I agree that RPGs should include romance options, but I don't agree that Assassin's Creed should be an RPG to begin with, so I don't agree that it should have romance options.
It should be one protagonist with predefined romances that fit their stories like in older games of the franchise. Simple as.
 

Arachnid

Member
I agree that RPGs should include romance options, but I don't agree that Assassin's Creed should be an RPG to begin with, so I don't agree that it should have romance options.
It should be one protagonist with predefined romances that fit their stories like in older games of the franchise. Simple as.
I actually like that more, and completely agree with all points (including the fact that AC shouldn't be an RPG, that shit needs to go). Good take
 
I have some more propaganda! More specifically, Japanese propaganda for the 1905 Russo-Japanese war.
The only people who are disrespecting Japanese culture here are the ones who have no idea the Japanese didn't have any qualms with homosexuality. With the exception of a few periods here and there throughout their history.
Yes there is an uncensored version of this image which shows some shaft and balls, not going to share it here obviously

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I don't know if depictions of raping their millitary opposition count as "no qualms with homosexuality" :messenger_grinning_smiling:

The point of the act is to degrade and shame the recipient.
 
Yeah, IMO these games SHOULD have some sort of romance option. We're playing some pretty old individuals throughout years of their life, and experiencing their memories through their descendants. Literally all of them canonically fell in love or at least sprayed around some kids lmao. Do these people think these characters went decades of their life not pursuing any kind of relationship outside of professionally? Hell, Ezio was canonically a man whore even before we took over playing him if I remember correctly. The flip side to that is that they are all either straight or bi. Either way, any romance is entirely optional, so it's not really hurting anyone to include it. IMO they just need to do a better job writing it.

I also don't remember anyone bitching about Yennifer or Triss. Or Miranda/Ashley/Tali/Liara in Mass Effect.

It also does make sense to include romance in an RPG. It's a very human experience, and people like relating in an RPG. Same reason you get romance outside of romance novels/movies. It's normal.
 
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Putonahappyface

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I have some more propaganda! More specifically, Japanese propaganda for the 1905 Russo-Japanese war.
The only people who are disrespecting Japanese culture here are the ones who have no idea the Japanese didn't have any qualms with homosexuality. With the exception of a few periods here and there throughout their history.
Yes there is an uncensored version of this image which shows some shaft and balls, not going to share it here obviously

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Maiden Voyage Maiden Voyage I didn't know you were Japanese.


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GudOlRub

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I don't know if depictions of raping their millitary opposition count as "no qualms with homosexuality" :messenger_grinning_smiling:

The point of the act is to degrade and shame the recipient.
Not really afaik. The point of that image is to show Japanese dominance towards Russia, not being ashamed of the homosexual act itself.
 

sloppyjoe_gamer

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Am i the only one who doesn't care for romance in games at all? 9/10 times it's done awkwardly and out of place anyways and really doesn't add anything to the game's experience.
 
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GudOlRub

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Am i the only one who doesn't care for romance in games at all? 9/10 times it's done awkwardly and out of place anyways and really doesn't add anything to the game's experience.
I feel a disturbing lack of romance in your gaming life.
Just recently, having played Indy Jones and KCD2, those games would absolutely be less enjoyable if they didn't have any romance in them.

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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The anti-woke crowd completely lost me when they started complaining about hot japanese lesbians.
This ain't that scene from America Pie 2 bro....



It's never that scene from America Pie 2 😞
 

Danjin44

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If they are done good...they add a lot to the characters. But Ubi has a huge writing problem imho. 🤷‍♂️
That’s where it comes down to.

For example the romance in The Last of Us left behind was done well, there was proper chemistry between Rile and Ellie and done tastefully.
 

pudel

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That’s where it comes down to.

For example the romance in The Last of Us left behind was done well, there was proper chemistry between Rile and Ellie and done tastefully.
Yeah...or Witcher3. Geralt and Yen were glorious! And how the game fckd you...when you started another romance was epic! :messenger_ok:
 

Wolzard

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If it's optional, it doesn't matter. What I find bizarre is that the dialogues and actions are not natural. Even the animation is poorly done.

In 2025, with realistic graphics, game developers still don't know how to make romantic scenes. At most, they're depraved.
 

MSduderino

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Don't care for romance in games really, but it's optional. The woke shit in a lot of these games is almost always optional or side quest stuff, meant to cater to that rainbow audience if they want to do it. But culture warriors find out and rage about the woke agenda.
 
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