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[bender]

It would be nice to have the option - but I think the licensing is why it was retranslated on PSP if I'm not mistaken? So it's yet another translation, I think?

Vic Ireland was on a podcast and said that he reached out to offer his translation and never heard back. Let me see if I can find a link.

Here it is:

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Vic Ireland was on a podcast and said that he reached out to offer his translation and never heard back. Let me see if I can find a link.

Well, that sucks. More options on ports/remasters like this is definitely what I desire. I wish anytime a game was ported/remastered like this, there was a sideloadable emulated version, or something like that, which was literally the original release.

 

[Self_Destructive]

I hope the new localization is solid.. but I'll be honest, I really just hope they'll be able to mod back the original translations and VO.

I'll be happy either way, really, but that would be ideal for me. I'm just glad to have these classics available on modern platforms again!

 

[fart town usa]

Well, that sucks. More options on ports/remasters like this is definitely what I desire. I wish anytime a game was ported/remastered like this, there was a sideloadable emulated version, or something like that, which was literally the original release.

I dont understand where the vitriol for Vic/WD came from. I can see to an extent why people would be upset over changes to the script but this was also the early 90s and there wasn't much of a market in NA for these jrpgs. I grew up on WD games, one of my favorite aspects were the scripts. People bought these games because of the scripts.

Vic will always be a legend/pioneer to me, and he kind of blew up his career for the sake of bringing jrpgs to NA. If that isn't worthy of respect, what is?

 

[SkylineRKR]

Vic was a frequenter here by the way. He did post now and then and sometimes he would provide some insight about his relation to Sega and in particular Stolar. There was some bad blood and finally he moved his localizations to Sony.

I think WD did a tremendous job with their localizations and packaging. They brought some obscure games over like Thunderforce, Elemental Gearbolt etc. But Lunar, although you won't notice it until you play another original version, it was a bit altered so you had to grind more. I don't know why they felt the need to do this.

 

[bender]

I dont understand where the vitriol for Vic/WD came from. I can see to an extent why people would be upset over changes to the script but this was also the early 90s and there wasn't much of a market in NA for these jrpgs. I grew up on WD games, one of my favorite aspects were the scripts. People bought these games because of the scripts.

Vic will always be a legend/pioneer to me, and he kind of blew up his career for the sake of bringing jrpgs to NA. If that isn't worthy of respect, what is?

I respect what he's done but I've experienced his translations and I'd prefer to see something different.

 

[fart town usa]

I respect what he's done but I've experienced his translations and I'd prefer to see something different.

That's why I was hoping they'd have both translations. I'm assuming Lunar will have the Silver Star Harmony translation. Not sure if Eternal Blue got a version post-PSX version.

 

[StereoVsn]

So no QoL options at all like reducing encounters or increasing speed?

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

I dont understand where the vitriol for Vic/WD came from. I can see to an extent why people would be upset over changes to the script but this was also the early 90s and there wasn't much of a market in NA for these jrpgs. I grew up on WD games, one of my favorite aspects were the scripts. People bought these games because of the scripts.

Vic will always be a legend/pioneer to me, and he kind of blew up his career for the sake of bringing jrpgs to NA. If that isn't worthy of respect, what is?

Yeah, in the sense that these games wouldn't be coming over here - I'd take a Vic Ireland job over nothing for sure. And, I mean, it wasn't that bad. It added some unique charm to it - and we ended up getting a fresh translation later anyway, so !

Vic was a frequenter here by the way. He did post now and then and sometimes he would provide some insight about his relation to Sega and in particular Stolar. There was some bad blood and finally he moved his localizations to Sony.

Any reason he stopped posting that you know of? I remember he used to be around.

 

[The Pleasure]

Any reason he stopped posting that you know of? I remember he used to be around.

The posts are coming. They're just delayed. Give it a few years. His Gaijins are working.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

Thankfully it doesn't have the Working Design translation.

I am not a fan of WD myself but they could have put it in as an option.

 

[Gexxy1]

Vic Ireland was on a podcast and said that he reached out to offer his translation and never heard back. Let me see if I can find a link.

Here it is:

iirc he wanted too much money for it, and they didn't want to pay it.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I read WD also fucked up Silhouette Mirage. That game was already hard as balls on Saturn. PS version seems to be even tougher.

 

[Hudo]

Yo, Lunartics, red pill me on Lunar.

 

[The Pleasure]

Yo, Lunartics, red pill me on Lunar.

A simp named Alex is down bad for his adopted sister, Luna who gets kidnapped by a Magic Supremacist named Ghalleon who hates Dragons and the guy who masters them. Alex goes across the world and is turned on when Luna gets some clothes from hot topic. Nall when not using his big mouth to talk shit turns into an airplane and takes them to a poverty laden area of the world called Russia. Kyle is fighting with his girlfriend, Jessica and Nash, the effeminate lady body is trying to get Mia to pay attention to him. Like a sane person, Mia ignores Nash because his hair is better then hers. Also Alex goes around the world looking for pictures of his sister in uncompromising positions along with all the other girls in his party. Victor Ireland also made a great instruction manual for this game. Which caused the Playstation release to be delayed by half a year and caused me to replay the demo disc multiple times.

 

[Hudo]

A simp named Alex is down bad for his adopted sister

Victor Ireland also made a great instruction manual for this game. Which caused the Playstation release to be delayed by half a year and caused me to replay the demo disc multiple times.

I'm in.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Not available on Amazon. Only says 'currently unavailable' and has never been available to pre-order.

 

[Midn1ght]

Game is available for preorder on Amazon.fr

LUNAR - AMAZON.FR - SWITCH
LUNAR - AMAZON.FR - PS4

54.99 Euro Dollar

 

[Chuck Berry]

A simp named Alex is down bad for his adopted sister, Luna who gets kidnapped by a Magic Supremacist named Ghalleon who hates Dragons and the guy who masters them. Alex goes across the world and is turned on when Luna gets some clothes from hot topic. Nall when not using his big mouth to talk shit turns into an airplane and takes them to a poverty laden area of the world called Russia. Kyle is fighting with his girlfriend, Jessica and Nash, the effeminate lady body is trying to get Mia to pay attention to him. Like a sane person, Mia ignores Nash because his hair is better then hers. Also Alex goes around the world looking for pictures of his sister in uncompromising positions along with all the other girls in his party. Victor Ireland also made a great instruction manual for this game. Which caused the Playstation release to be delayed by half a year and caused me to replay the demo disc multiple times.

This is one of the best posts I've read on here in a long time

 

[Sooner]

Thankfully it doesn't have the Working Design translation.

Does that mean no Bill Clinton references?

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

Does that mean no Bill Clinton references?

They updated it to say Donald instead of Bill

 

[Chuck Berry]

Does that mean no Bill Clinton references?

 

[Toots]

Never played it, never heard of it.
On what console did it come out originally?

Ask your dad to tell you about it

 

[Mr Hyde]

Pre-ordered a copy from Amazon but apparently I don't get it until August. That kinda sucks. I hope it's an error on their part. It can't be in that high demand can it?

 

[amigastar]

Ask your dad to tell you about it

I'm 42 dude.
Like i said, i never was a Sega guy more like Nintendo back in the days.

 

[Shifty1897]

I'm 42 dude.
Like i said, i never was a Sega guy more like Nintendo back in the days.

So the elephant in the room is that these games may not shine for others who didn't experience them back in the Sega CD / PS1 days. I think the games still hold up, but in the same way that people who play Chrono Trigger now for the first time don't understand the hype, people aren't going to be blown away by this.

Lunar 1 is a very classic good vs evil anime story, Lunar 2 is a little more nuanced and mature, characters are a little more gray and the story is better because of it.

 

[amigastar]

So the elephant in the room is that these games may not shine for others who didn't experience them back in the Sega CD / PS1 days. I think the games still hold up, but in the same way that people who play Chrono Trigger now for the first time don't understand the hype, people aren't going to be blown away by this.

Lunar 1 is a very classic good vs evil anime story, Lunar 2 is a little more nuanced and mature, characters are a little more gray and the story is better because of it.

That's actually a very interesting point you bring up and its true. Unfortunately people today can't tell why the games were so important to us back in the days.
I only take GTA 3 as an example, nothing special from todays viewpoint but back then it was a revelation to me.
That goes for many older games unfortunately.

 

[SkylineRKR]

So the elephant in the room is that these games may not shine for others who didn't experience them back in the Sega CD / PS1 days. I think the games still hold up, but in the same way that people who play Chrono Trigger now for the first time don't understand the hype, people aren't going to be blown away by this.

Lunar 1 is a very classic good vs evil anime story, Lunar 2 is a little more nuanced and mature, characters are a little more gray and the story is better because of it.

Lunar was just a very well done JRPG. Its battle system wasn't as engaging as FF or anything, but it did the job and it had decent speed. I liked the world building, the peak 2D graphics and the overall atmosphere. Cutscenes looked good at the time. Overall the presentation was very good, a SNES style RPG dressed up with good quality anime scenes, voice acting etc. Working Designs also elevated it with the very unique box this game shipped in, hardcover booklet, map etc.

Lunar 2 was simply bigger, and in my opinion better.

Game Arts was really good at the time. They obviously didn't have the grandeur of Square, but Grandia 1, 2 and Lunar 1 and 2 are classics from their era and while Lunars gameplay was nothing special (it was a 16-bit Sega CD series originally), especially Grandia 2 has combat thats still among the top.

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

So the elephant in the room is that these games may not shine for others who didn't experience them back in the Sega CD / PS1 days. I think the games still hold up, but in the same way that people who play Chrono Trigger now for the first time don't understand the hype, people aren't going to be blown away by this.

Lunar 1 is a very classic good vs evil anime story, Lunar 2 is a little more nuanced and mature, characters are a little more gray and the story is better because of it.

Yeah honestly Lunar 1 uses practically every shounen anime/JRPG cliche in the book. It released at a time when anime + JRPGs were still these niche exotic things, and when games with heavy emphasis on character interactions, voice acting, and cutscenes were very rare.

Seems like it'll hit much differently in 2025. It'll be be interesting to see how it's received by people playing it for the first time.

 

[gpn]

A simp named Alex is down bad for his adopted sister, Luna who gets kidnapped by a Magic Supremacist named Ghalleon who hates Dragons and the guy who masters them. Alex goes across the world and is turned on when Luna gets some clothes from hot topic. Nall when not using his big mouth to talk shit turns into an airplane and takes them to a poverty laden area of the world called Russia. Kyle is fighting with his girlfriend, Jessica and Nash, the effeminate lady body is trying to get Mia to pay attention to him. Like a sane person, Mia ignores Nash because Victor Ireland also made a great instruction manual for this game. Which caused the Playstation release to be delayed by half a year and caused me to replay the demo disc multiple times.

It should be pointed out that those great instruction manuals for both of the Lunar games are hardcover books with like 100 pages.

 

[Toots]

I'm 42 dude.
Like i said, i never was a Sega guy more like Nintendo back in the days.

Ask your son then.

(but really lunar is a staple of 90's rpg)

 

[gimmmick]

Hopefully no loading times for the switch. Good god the loading times on the psp version was bad.

Also no NA physical release?

 

[Power Pro]

Hopefully no loading times for the switch. Good god the loading times on the psp version was bad.

Also no NA physical release?

Amazon exclusive physical release. No preorders for some weird reason, but they keep assuring people that there will be enough copies.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

For any GAF members from Canada -- VGP will be the exclusive retailer for the physical version and pre-orders are live!

 

[jshackles]

For any GAF members from Canada -- VGP will be the exclusive retailer for the physical version and pre-orders are live!

"only ships within Canada"

 

[BacklashWave534]

Is Vic Ireland doing this release?

Unfortunately no. I consider this a downgrade in many respects.

 

[The Pleasure]

Unfortunately no. I consider this a downgrade in many respects.

Comment delayed for six months to add a leatherbound cover.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

I dont understand where the vitriol for Vic/WD came from. I can see to an extent why people would be upset over changes to the script but this was also the early 90s and there wasn't much of a market in NA for these jrpgs. I grew up on WD games, one of my favorite aspects were the scripts. People bought these games because of the scripts.

Vic will always be a legend/pioneer to me, and he kind of blew up his career for the sake of bringing jrpgs to NA. If that isn't worthy of respect, what is?

Yeah. I really don't get it, either. WD entire business model was to bring games out in the West, that normally would never seen the light of day, otherwise. Specifically, games from Japan. I appreciate what they did and they got my money long ago. Was sad to see them close.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Comment delayed for six months to add a leatherbound cover.

Working designs was an aming company and made some of the best collectibales in the industry. Why all the hate for Vic? They should have added the Working Designs dub.

 

[The Pleasure]

Working designs was an aming company and made some of the best collectibales in the industry. Why all the hate for Vic? They should have added the Working Designs dub.

Not hate. I love the guy and the games he brought. But I can still make fun of the working delays motif.

 

[Durin]

Still have the original PS1 collector's boxes that I'll never sell.

Will probably pick these up at some point just to replay on my Steam Deck.

 

[Evil Calvin]

Still shows 'currently unavailable' on Amazon....never has been available for preorder

 

[bender]

Still shows 'currently unavailable' on Amazon....never has been available for preorder

As intended.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Not hate. I love the guy and the games he brought. But I can still make fun of the working delays motif.

I can agree with that. Absoluteley miss their obsessive level of effort. Shame there won't be a Working Designs dub or even an optional paid add on for people who want it.

 

[dave_d]

Yeah. I really don't get it, either. WD entire business model was to bring games out in the West, that normally would never seen the light of day, otherwise. Specifically, games from Japan. I appreciate what they did and they got my money long ago. Was sad to see them close.

I think it was partly the hubris he could display at times. Basically thinking the stuff they did was so much better than anybody else. For example thinking the voice acting work his company did that he tried to say the voice actors on say Ys books 1&2 were a bunch of unknowns.(Yes, a lot was terrible but to say that about that game, well there you go.) Well that and changing games "for the better" because he "knew better."

 

[bender]

I think it was partly the hubris he could display at times. Basically thinking the stuff they did was so much better than anybody else. For example thinking the voice acting work his company did that he tried to say the voice actors on say Ys books 1&2 were a bunch of unknowns.(Yes, a lot was terrible but to say that about that game, well there you go.) Well that and changing games "for the better" because he "knew better."

That's a bingo. The new translation might be better or worse and we already have Working Designs translations so I'm fine with going another direction. With this being available on Steam, I'm sure the mod community will do their thing and give an option for the WD translation eventually.

 

[Angelcurio]

Thankfully it doesn't have the Working Design translation.

Wait a minute, this remaster does not include the Working Desings Dub? that dub is precisely one of the reasons that has me so impatiently waiting for the release

 

[OuterLimits]

I dont understand where the vitriol for Vic/WD came from. I can see to an extent why people would be upset over changes to the script but this was also the early 90s and there wasn't much of a market in NA for these jrpgs. I grew up on WD games, one of my favorite aspects were the scripts. People bought these games because of the scripts.

Vic will always be a legend/pioneer to me, and he kind of blew up his career for the sake of bringing jrpgs to NA. If that isn't worthy of respect, what is?

Yeah, I loved the job Working Designs did even with the long delays. Sony refusing to release Arc the Lad in the West was frustrating.

 

[Digity]

For any GAF members from Canada -- VGP will be the exclusive retailer for the physical version and pre-orders are live!

Fuck ya, thank for posting this. These guys are like 30 mins from me, luckily shipping is free so I don't have to go anywhere lol.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

I think it was partly the hubris he could display at times. Basically thinking the stuff they did was so much better than anybody else. For example thinking the voice acting work his company did that he tried to say the voice actors on say Ys books 1&2 were a bunch of unknowns.(Yes, a lot was terrible but to say that about that game, well there you go.) Well that and changing games "for the better" because he "knew better."

Oh... shit, now that you remind me, here... Yeah.
I think I just dismissed it because I didn't care about devs/development process, back then, as much as I do now.
Also, Studio Alex...