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[OzRinlvs]

I think that finding planets that can SUSTAIN life, any kind of life is important, even if it's not intelligent life, and even if these planets are outside of traveling distance right now.

Quite frankly though I hope we never meet other intelligent life. There's a very high chance it won't end well for one of the species.

 

[SidViscous]

The problem is, there may be other ways to produce said gasses that we don't know about.

pull my finger

 

[Hookshot]

Quite frankly though I hope we never meet other intelligent life. There's a very high chance it won't end well for one of the species.

I don't think it needs to be intelligent, the second life is found completely alien to Earth then everything changes. We are no longer "alone" and we have to worry about everything from space plagues to little green men. We will need to find it and study it, taking benefits and eradicating threats. Exactly as has happened on Earth.

We will be the threat to the galaxy purely because of our own fragility. I don't see us ever having the luxury of being benevolent.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

I don't care what people on this site think of me, but I have seen a UFO with my own eyes, so I am a firm believer in the existence of life on other planets. In fact, I believe that we humans did not evolved on this planet, as Lloyd Pye has proven in his great lecture:



This is exactly the ship I saw.



I cannot possibly know if real aliens were piloting this ship. I think it could be a secret project built on this planet. The skin of this UFO reminded me fighter jet, just triangle shaped with very bright light on each side of the triangle. The strangest thing about this ship was its antigravity propulsion system.

Currently we lack the tech to conduct interstellar travel in a relatively short time span.

I'm sure they already have the technology. It's just not for the masses. Aliens don't need to physically travel this distance because they learned millions of years ago that each point in time and space has a unique frequency, and by building a device that can replicate that frequency, there is an instant connection that allows interstellar travel in a second.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I don't care what people on this site think of me, but I have seen a UFO with my own eyes, so I am a firm believer in the existence of life on other planets. In fact, I believe that we humans did not evolved on this planet, as Lloyd Pye has proven in his great lecture:



This is exactly the ship I saw.



I cannot possibly know if real aliens were piloting this ship. I think it could be a secret project built on this planet. The skin of this UFO reminded me fighter jet, just triangle shaped with very bright light on each side of the triangle. The strangest thing about this ship was its antigravity propulsion system.


I'm sure they already have the technology. It's just not for the masses. Aliens don't need to physically travel this distance because they learned millions of years ago that each point in time and space has a unique frequency, and by building a device that can replicate that frequency, there is an instant connection that allows interstellar travel in a second.

But how can we know what aliens learned millions of years ago?

 

[kpopSuperstar]

If that's the case then hunanity is lost. Finding bacteria on anywhere other than Earth would be the greatest scientific discovery ever. Nothing comes close.

Personally, I believe life is far more common in the universe. There is a very high chance life exists on places in our own system such as Europa and even Titan.



Currently we lack the tech to conduct interstellar travel in a relatively short time span.

Interstellar travel is actually like a problem that could be solved in our lifetimes, but it would take the whole planet coming together to work towards a common goal.

Unfortunately that seems very unlikely.

Our only hope is that quantum computers and AI develop at a break neck speed and they can solve the problem for us.

Why though, sending out ship/drones that will spend hundreds of years to get anywhere, and hundreds of years to come back to us, seems pointless.

 

[OzRinlvs]

Space exploration is inevitable unless we nuke ourselves out of existence in some way first. In that case, it would be nice to have a planet that actually already supports life to travel to. Provided that this life doesn't pose a disease danger to us. I am quite frankly doubtful that any planets that developed to a carnivorous multi-cell organism level are anywhere nearby, so any danger on that planet outside bacteria would be mostly from terrain, atmosphere, gravity etc.

Personally, I believe that if life evolved anywhere, it most likely did in a similar fashion that life began on earth, so that planets hospitable to higher-level life (i.e. not just bacteria because they can live almost anywhere, but something more plant like), would be also at least minimally hospitable to us. Provided there's also water, an atmosphere, and the gravity is accommodating. The third aspect is one people seem to think less about but it seems to affect people's health quite strongly.

 

[Aggelos]

This needs much more investigation and further observations, in the decades to come.
It's a very interesting case, though, since these are the strongest hints of possible biological activity outside the solar system, up to this point.


"In 2025, the atmosphere of K2-18b was found to contain dimethyl sulfide (DMS), a chemical thought to be produced in nature only by living organisms, and furthermore in quantities 20 times more than that found on Earth. In as much as the molecule is short-lived, the concentration is highly suggestive that DMS is being replenished. Other scientists criticized this statement and pointed to lab experiments that can produce DMS without life."

K2-18b - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Northeastmonk]

Won't it take like 8,000 years to send a probe to it? It's not like any of us will know for sure as we'll be long dead

How could we intercept the signal once it landed? A round trip would take 16,000 years. Our earth might not even be around. Lots of cool stuff that doesn't matter to our daily lives.

 

[Liljagare]

"In 2023, they reported they had also detected faint hints of another molecule, and one of huge potential importance: dimethyl sulfide, which is made of sulfur, carbon, and hydrogen at a probality at >.055%."

Then it's ALJIUNS LIFE!!111!!!11!!!

This is another good example as to why people scoff at the sensationalistic headlines, which btw, evolved over time from when the report came out.

 

[Liljagare]

I don't care what people on this site think of me, but I have seen a UFO with my own eyes, so I am a firm believer in the existence of life on other planets. In fact, I believe that we humans did not evolved on this planet, as Lloyd Pye has proven in his great lecture:



This is exactly the ship I saw.



I cannot possibly know if real aliens were piloting this ship. I think it could be a secret project built on this planet. The skin of this UFO reminded me fighter jet, just triangle shaped with very bright light on each side of the triangle. The strangest thing about this ship was its antigravity propulsion system.


I'm sure they already have the technology. It's just not for the masses. Aliens don't need to physically travel this distance because they learned millions of years ago that each point in time and space has a unique frequency, and by building a device that can replicate that frequency, there is an instant connection that allows interstellar travel in a second.

UFO Sightings Map | NUFORC

Worldwide UFO / UAP sightings plotted on an interactive map.

nuforc.org

Draw your own conclusion, also please note, areas of failed photography/knowledge of arial/atmopsheric phenomalies/knowledge of aircraft produced phenomae.

X-10/X-59/SM-3/Minuteman III/MKV-L probarly explains 99%.

Missile defense multiple kill vehicle hover test

Probarly explains alot, test of a UAP that hover, "pour molten metal", and then can take off at impossible speeds. It can now reportedly reach Mach 4.



This engine is from the 90's.

SM-5, GBI

reportedly can achieve Mach 7 now.

 

[Romulus]

I wouldn't go that far, we need more than two examples, there is still a chance this is an extreme rare planet.

If James Webb can find many planets with these gasses though, then we are talking.

First we need to know for sure that this is indeed plant life, which we simply won't be able to know.

I think it's highly likely this is indeed the real deal, we know no other natural means of producing what they have seen aside from life. I think this is it.

It's so close to earth it would be insane if it's confirmed. 700 trillion miles is neighborly close in the grand scheme.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

UFO Sightings Map | NUFORC

Worldwide UFO / UAP sightings plotted on an interactive map.

nuforc.org

Draw your own conclusion, also please note, areas of failed photography/knowledge of arial/atmopsheric phenomalies/knowledge of aircraft produced phenomae.

X-10/X-59/SM-3/Minuteman III/MKV-L probarly explains 99%.

Missile defense multiple kill vehicle hover test

Probarly explains alot, test of a UAP that hover, "pour molten metal", and then can take off at impossible speeds. It can now reportedly reach Mach 4.



This engine is from the 90's.

The engine in your video is very loud and emits very long flames. The triangular UFO I saw was completely silent and I didnt saw flames. I only saw very bright white lights (behind thick glass) on the sides of the triangle, and I believe these lights could have been part of the propulsion system. I would want to see that triangle UFO once more, it was so magnificant. I would describe it as a modern fighter jet (only triangular). I vividly remember it's skin.

I saw similar screws and metal pieces attached securely, therefore I think this triangular UFO was built with human hands. I do not understand why they hide this amazing (antigravity) technology for so long.

 

[The Fartist]

I wouldn't be surprised if one day it's confirmed that the universe is swarming with life, from simple organisms to advanced civilizations, I'd be excited (and scared) but absolutely not surprised. The universe is roughly 93 billion light-years across, with roughly 2 trillion galaxies, which contain billions+ of solar systems each. I get it we need evidence, but c'mon, do the math. I'd be shocked if the universe wasn't full of life, it's impossible.

 

[Brigandier]

Just looked it up. Our fastest space probe goes 700,000 km/h.

It would take it 191,000 years to travel 124 lightyears. We're cooked.

Man I'm so thick and in over my head working out that sorta light speed space travel

If someone asked me how many years would it take to cover 124 light years at the speed of light I'd have said 124 years

 

[Lord Panda]

It's time Earth unleashes a decisive first strike with our secret cache of relativistic kill vehicles before they beat us to it. Or maybe… we're already too late.

 

[The Lunch Legend]

If someone asked me how many years would it take to cover 124 light years at the speed of light I'd have said 124 years

You are correct.

However, travelling at light speed(s) is not possible with current technology.

But in the future, who knows?

 

[HRK69]

Man I'm so thick and in over my head working out that sorta light speed space travel

If someone asked me how many years would it take to cover 124 light years at the speed of light I'd have said 124 years

There are a couple of fun and good resources here if you want to go deeper!

Thread 'I never understood why you can't go faster than light - until now'

Apr 13, 2025

This came up in my feed for some reason. Blows my mind how stuff from Einstein and Pythagoras is still the cornerstone of so much today.

But this was kind of cool to explain time, dilation and why we can't go FTL - might interest others too, and it's a really cool presentation and explanation.

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[Bitmap Frogs]

It's time Earth unleashes a decisive first strike with our secret cache of relativistic kill vehicles before they beat us to it. Or maybe… we're already too late.

we have a healthy supply of asteroids in the belt past mars

 

[Brigandier]

There are a couple of fun and good resources here if you want to go deeper!

Thread 'I never understood why you can't go faster than light - until now'

Apr 13, 2025

This came up in my feed for some reason. Blows my mind how stuff from Einstein and Pythagoras is still the cornerstone of so much today.

But this was kind of cool to explain time, dilation and why we can't go FTL - might interest others too, and it's a really cool presentation and explanation.

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I'll watch that later

I couldn't get my head around the fact our fastest probe which can travel 2.2x the speed of light at approx 640,000 km/h would take 209,000 years to travel 124 light years?... I thought it would take around 60 years

If my understanding of it all was a gif:

 

[RCX]

I'm already on my way!

 

[TheUnicornGuy]

I'll watch that later

I couldn't get my head around the fact our fastest probe which can travel 2.2x the speed of light at approx 640,000 km/h would take 209,000 years to travel 124 light years?... I thought it would take around 60 years

If my understanding of it all was a gif:

Light travels at just under 300000km/s, or just over 1 billion km/h.

 

[Branded]

How do rockets work in space?

 

[TheUnicornGuy]

How do rockets work in space?

Newton's 3rd law.

 

[sono]

How they holdin' it down on 18b:

 

[Branded]

Newton's 3rd law.

But how do they steer and gain/reduce speed when there's no friction or atmosphere to 'push off' from by blasting energy in a certain direction?

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

But how can we know what aliens learned millions of years ago?

Watch this video, Stewart explained everything. At first I laughed at Stewart's version of the history, but over the years I have found many evidence that support some of the Stewart claims, so Stewart's story no longer seem unbelievable to me.



People like to think that science is based on reality and is incontrovertible, but as you start confronting scientists with certain facts you can realize that they often repeat false information. I encourage people to start asking questions rather than blindly believing everything we are told.

For example, questions about megalithic structures on this planet. We cant replicate Giza Pyramids even with our current technology because of insane telerances (not even laser tools allows for such precision), yet archeologists want us to believe that Great Pyramid was built with primitive tools (copper chiesels) in just a matter of 28 years (315 blocks per day). Researchers tried to build a miniaturised pyramid using exactly the same tools and they failed miserably, yet archeologists still wants us to believe that's how Egyptians cut limestone ans granite.

One experiment

NOVA mini-pyramid: fiasco and swindle – Joseph Davidovits

Another



Another problem is transport. How Egyptians lifted granite blocks weighing 80 tonnes, no animal can lift that.

We also know that the claimed age of the pyramids of Giza is totally false. Sphinx has water erosion caused by rain and rainy climate in this region was 12000 BC (Younger Dryas). What's more, such deep water erosion in limestone doesn't happen overnight, so these Giza Pyramids are much older than that. Some researchers believe that the pyramid builders wanted to replicate the star alignment corresponding to 36000 BC and there's one legend about Atlantean king who built Great Pyramid exactly 36000 BC.

Giza were a tombs archeologists say, yet John Cadman proved that the Great Pyramid subterranean chamber was used as a water pump and Chris Dunn connected the dots. Water + electromagnetic resonance = energy. The evidence suggest this entire structure was a power plant, but archeologists refuse to change their old beliefs.



The problem is that the elites have already programmed people on this planet with certain beliefs about pretty much everything, and it's very difficult to change the beliefs of a programmed person, even if you show them the evidence. It's like trying to change a religious person. You can show him evidence that his religion and beliefs are false, but you will still not convince him to change his religion. In fact, confronting such a person with facts may make him so angry that he may start fighting with you.

 

[TheUnicornGuy]

But how do they steer and gain/reduce speed when there's no friction or atmosphere to 'push off' from by blasting energy in a certain direction?

As far as I know the thrusters are movable and they have jets(not like a plane, but more like a fire extinguisher) at certain points on the outside which push it, including backwards to act as a brake.

 

[Branded]

As far as I know the thrusters are movable and they have jets(not like a plane, but more like a fire extinguisher) at certain points on the outside which push it, including backwards to act as a brake.

Yes that's what I mean. How do thrusters (that shoot out some form of energy) manage to make an object move in space where there is nothing to 'push against'?

I am confusion.

 

[TheUnicornGuy]

Yes that's what I mean. How do thrusters (that shoot out some form of energy) manage to make an object move in space where there is nothing to 'push against'?

I am confusion.

That's not how it works, they don't push against space, or air, or the ground when they take off. They push against the rocket/shuttle or what ever. The thrust comes from applying x amount of force to the gas to push it away from the craft, this in turn pushes the craft away from the gas with a matching amount of force. Think of a jet plane, do you think that air is solid enough to to be used to push the plane? Could you push your feet against the air to help move a chair? The expanding gases in a jet push out of back with, for example, 10000 foot pounds of pressure, this in turn pushes the plane forwards with a matching amount.

 

[IDKFA]

Why though, sending out ship/drones that will spend hundreds of years to get anywhere, and hundreds of years to come back to us, seems pointless.

Why what? Why would it be greatest scientific discovery of all time? Because it would prove that life can be found outside Earth. It's proof we're not alone.

I'm not suggesting we send probes now to K2-18b. We don't have the tech for that yet. However, we are actively looking for life in our own star system (see Clipper misson) in moons such as Europa. Finding any life outside Earth would be game changing.

Sending probes in the future to further star systems when tech improve seems pointless because it'll take decades or more to see the results. However, it's future generations that will benefit from the scientific knowledge. That's worth it.

 

[Oberstein]

Will amino acids combine to form the first proteins?

 

[Bert Big Balls]

Man I'm so thick and in over my head working out that sorta light speed space travel

If someone asked me how many years would it take to cover 124 light years at the speed of light I'd have said 124 years

That is correct if travelling at lightspeed, but nothing we have can travel that fast.

 

[Romulus]

I wouldn't be surprised if one day it's confirmed that the universe is swarming with life, from simple organisms to advanced civilizations, I'd be excited (and scared) but absolutely not surprised. The universe is roughly 93 billion light-years across, with roughly 2 trillion galaxies, which contain billions+ of solar systems each. I get it we need evidence, but c'mon, do the math. I'd be shocked if the universe wasn't full of life, it's impossible.

I think it's likely we were visited thousands of years ago and the prognosis was what we all can admit. Pick two: Violent, emotional, erratc, extreme difficulty dealing with the unknown. You can easily imagine how a human would react and there's absolutely no way in hell it was a favorable impression. Hell fucking no.

If that's not the recipe for "stay the fuck away" I don't know what is. I honestly think all these similar sightings(observed by different cultures dating back centuries) are observations at a distance because we're impossibly difficult. We suck at basically everything but building machines to murder each other. A large portion of major human technological advancements were directly connected to military applications.

I think the unknown terrifies people consciously or worse, subconsciously. It manifests as this extreme version of skepticism to protect themselves mentally.
I think mick west is a perfect example. The guy admitted he had a breakdown realizing that if aliens were real, he was completely vulnerable to them. He literally had psychotic episode hiding in a closet. What does he do now? He's the most famous debunker out there. He won't touch some of better cases though. He cherry picks specific aspects. Anyway, he has a legion of followers and i truly believe it's a form of therapy for the walls closing in. We all feel it. The phenomenon is getting increasingly difficult to ignore and I think for this reason his following will grow exponentially.

I'm all for it. We're going to need to give people an escape to believe they're safe and nothing external can hurt them. So long as people understand it's therapy. They have to die off so new generations of people can be born and accept the phenomenon from an early age. I think the coming years will be similar to the enlightenment in many ways. The reality is we're likely under the thumb of some civilization(s), at the very least under observation.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

I couldn't get my head around the fact our fastest probe which can travel 2.2x the speed of light at approx 640,000 km/h would take 209,000 years to travel 124 light years?... I thought it would take around 60 years

You're confused about the speed of light, it's not measured in km/h but km/s, so 640k km/h obviously isn't 2.2x the speed of light, it's only 178 km/s, or 0.067% of the speed of light.

 

[Brigandier]

You're confused about the speed of light, it's not measured in km/h but km/s, so 640k km/h obviously isn't 2.2x the speed of light, it's only 178 km/s, or 0.067% of the speed of light.

Thanks, that clears that up then!!! Yeah we are never going to see life on another planet

 

[Trilobit]

Confirmation of ANY life outside of earth would be groundbreaking.

This would mean that life is super common and there are billions of planets with it.

Proof of life on two planets wouldn't mean that life is super common. Someone could draw that conclusion, but it would not "mean" that.

 

[Nikodemos]

Proof of life on two planets wouldn't mean that life is super common. Someone could draw that conclusion, but it would not "mean" that.

If we were to find some sort of vent life on Europa (and/or other similar moon in our system) it would prove in a definitive fashion that life is a bog-standard phenomenon in space, and we've just been bad or unlucky at noticing it.

 

[Durien]

We need to build a starbase on the moon. We spend a lot of time looking for stuff but not enough time making progress in our own back yard. If we colonize the moon and use that as a jumping point. We'll meet the next level tech in the skill tree to explore further. Even if we don't find ANYONE we still need off this rock.

 

[Nikodemos]

We need to build a starbase on the moon. We spend a lot of time looking for stuff but not enough time making progress in our own back yard. If we colonize the moon and use that as a jumping point. We'll meet the next level tech in the skill tree to explore further. Even if we don't find ANYONE we still need off this rock.

Colonizing the moon would only be worth it if whatever is produced there can both cover the (massive) cost of operating a moonbase and generate a solid/steady profit on top of that. Otherwise there's no point. Building a base on a radiation-blasted vacuum-sealed rock, where the soil is basically microscopic razorblades, is just too damn expensive. That's why Elmo never bothered with any plans for a moonbase, and went directly for Mars.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Why what? Why would it be greatest scientific discovery of all time? Because it would prove that life can be found outside Earth. It's proof we're not alone.

I'm not suggesting we send probes now to K2-18b. We don't have the tech for that yet. However, we are actively looking for life in our own star system (see Clipper misson) in moons such as Europa. Finding any life outside Earth would be game changing.

Sending probes in the future to further star systems when tech improve seems pointless because it'll take decades or more to see the results. However, it's future generations that will benefit from the scientific knowledge. That's worth it.

If it takes decades, sure, but if it takes 2000 years, then humanity will already be spacefaring before it comes back.

 

[IDKFA]

If it takes decades, sure, but if it takes 2000 years, then humanity will already be spacefaring before it comes back.

We wouldn't send probes or craft that take thousands of years to reach their destination.

Unless you're referring to time dilation, which is a separate problem.

 

[Bojji]

I wouldn't go that far, we need more than two examples, there is still a chance this is an extreme rare planet.

If James Webb can find many planets with these gasses though, then we are talking.

First we need to know for sure that this is indeed plant life, which we simply won't be able to know.

I think it's highly likely this is indeed the real deal, we know no other natural means of producing what they have seen aside from life. I think this is it.

Proof of life on two planets wouldn't mean that life is super common. Someone could draw that conclusion, but it would not "mean" that.

In the cosmic scale two planets in the same galaxy and "close" to each other might mean life is super common. Even if it's 1/1000000 planet that has life it still will give you insane numbers (billions of billions) for entire visible universe.

There are two options:

1. Life is ULTRA rare, so rare that it can happen once (we) or maybe twice (some life billions of years from now) in the entire history of cosmos. With this we can be 99.999% sure we are alone.
2. Life is common. That would mean that there is 100% chance somewhere out there inteligent life exist (or existed). Unless we are the first intelligent life (capable of building space ships) that formed:



Finding life on any planet would mean second option is correct. So far nothing is confirmed.

 

[KimDongHwan]

Is crazy to think that someplace somewhere is literally right now giving news to it's citizens that they think there might be life on planet earth

 

[HRK69]

Is crazy to think that someplace somewhere is literally right now giving news to it's citizens that they think there might be life on planet earth

If the universe is truly infinite, it would imply that every possible variation of that news broadcast, no matter how improbable, must exist somewhere within its vast expanse

And that's where I stop trying to comprehend the universe, some things are simply beyond understanding

 

[Sardaukarama]

This is where Evillore teleports the banned

 

[EverydayBeast]

Impressive discovery that shows there's a chance of life outside of earth.

 

[L*][*N*K]

Unlikely.

I love how scientists live their whole lives studying and analyzing and inventing to get to a hypothesis and some random dude calls the whole thing "Unlikely." And moves on with their life, what a weird species we are.

 

[Madserb2023]

This is one those things that is borderline irrelevant at a substantive level. Its 124 light years away. Which would take thousands of years to reach at current speeds and the only way to know for sure if its inhabited is by going there. Very different to if we detected life on Titan. Its not 100% known if what has been detected can only be produced by organic life either. Only have Earth to compare. Anyone can say they have detected life on a planet hundreds of light years away and you will never prove or disprove it. I am a genius, I have discovered life in the Andromeda Galaxy. Prove me wrong.

 

[Wildebeest]

This is probably nothing or a total fraud like most of the new science that makes it all the way to the news.