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[Nekki]

The problem here is not that there's been a "bad review", the problem is that people focus on Metacritic too much.

There's always 'professionals' that are very bad at their jobs, like this GameSpot review seems to show, but it's just another badly writte, lacking review. They came before and will continue to come for whatever reasons.

The game is lauded as an excellent game, getting great reviews all over the place, so why get hung up because there's one 6.5?? It should make no difference in purchase decisions.

 

[Revven]

In this case, it's not about the damn score. It's about how she arrived at the 6.5 that matters. She doesn't explain her frustration with what happened, why to her, it's bad game design that lead to those frustrations or anything.

She just basically says, "it's bad because I got frustrated and couldn't do it". Reviews are supposed to go into detail about your experience with the product, explaining the why is a part of that when you make a statement about the game.

How am I supposed to understand it's frustrating when it's not even explained why it's frustrating for her and how they could have made it better in x segment?

It's poorly written and doesn't add up.

 

[zroid]

Doesnt seem like it

GameSpot causing some more whine

GameSpot always does :lol

But yeah

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Some really nice scores! I’ll probably wait for a price drop, but this might finally be my next 3DS game purchase. My last one was Revelations.

 

[HoJu]

Eurogamer 9/10
Said polterpup was the only padding and praised the visuals and animation, comparing it to Wind Waker.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

9/10 from Eurogamer.

So why are people still talking about Gamespot?

 

[Davey Cakes]

So why are people still talking about Gamespot?

Dissenting reviews are more interesting.

 

[Trancetronic]

Can't wait to download it Sunday at midnight! Reviews look positive (I was going to get it anyway).

I really like the fact you can download new releases at midnight. Beats going to stores and asking the employees for it when they don't know it came out. Real annoying.

 

[GiantEnemyGoomba]

Is there a term for someone choosing to believe minimal negativity over overwhelming positivity?

 

[Lord_Byron28]

Some really nice scores! I’ll probably wait for a price drop, but this might finally be my next 3DS game purchase. My last one was Revelations.

#1 lol you're waiting for a price drop on a Nintendo game have fun waiting a while.

#2 You're missing out on a lot of great 3DS games.

 

[peanutbutterlatte]

Is there a term for someone choosing to believe minimal negativity over overwhelming positivity?

A pessimist I suppose.

 

[GetemMa]

Is there a term for someone choosing to believe minimal negativity over overwhelming positivity?

Hipster?

 

[Banjoman]

Is there a term for someone choosing to believe minimal negativity over overwhelming positivity?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HypeAversion

 

[SteeloDMZ]

Hipster?

Haha, that's great.

 

[Yoshi]

Yes and back to the initial question. Why wouldn't that be the stance you hold if you think the game is worse than the majority?

Why doesn't every one of your criticism apply to Yoshi here in this thread? He says this game is a 9 and it should be scored a 9.

If I was in the habit of reading statements inflammatory as is the norm here, he is claiming everyone who isn't scoring it a 9 or higher to be wrong.

No, this is not what I want to claim. I was answering to this: "maybe they're more realistic? Not everything needs to be scored 9+". This statement was asking if the lower score is more realistic, my opinion on that is "No, it isn't". From my point of view (obviously as someone who did give Luigi a nine), a nine is totally justified, realistic and Luigi should be rated 9. Different opinions and different criteria are OK, but not more realistic. So yes, the answer was a bit simplified, but I thought it was obvious that I was not saying that no matter what your criteria might be, a nine must always be the rating for Luigi. From my point of view, using my review criteria, no game this year so far deserves a nine more than Luigi.

EDIT: Nevertheless, I definitely question criteria that punish a game so severely for not putting you right in the same place when you fail. Not because the game is unfair, but because you did badly.

 

[Fabrik]

So why are people still talking about Gamespot?

Because giving this game a 6.5 for one of two potentially frustrating moments in a 12+ hours game is a fucking crime.

 

[bomb]

The metacritic score is super deflated. I hope this game sells very well. Luigi has earned it. Next Level has earned it.

 

[jwhit28]

Review scores and most reviewer opinions are useless. I read reviews to pick up the bits of factual information about a game but unless there is a theme between multiple reviewers opinions, they hold no weight in my purchasing decisions.

 

[Clockwork5]

Caro has lost points with me, Not that she or anyone on GS had too many to lose in the fist place. With her statement she basically called her peers unqualified to review games. Humility goes a long way in this world.

To all of you close minded people who claim everyone always thinks they are right all of the time because that's what they think and everyone else is just wrong... or what ever point you are trying to make... You all have a lot to learn (its just sad that you never will because you already believe you are right about everything).

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Caro has lost points with me, Not that she or anyone on GS had too many to lose in the fist place. With her statement she basically called her peers unqualified to review games. Humility goes a long way in this world.

To all of you close minded people who claim everyone always thinks they are right all of the time because that's what they think and everyone else is just wrong... or what ever point you are trying to make... You all have a lot to learn (its just sad that you never will because you already believe you are right about everything).

So if you think a game/book/movie/song is horrible and somebody else thinks its great, you don't think your opinion is right and their's is wrong? Isn't that sort of the way opinions work?

 

[zroid]

can we not start this again, possibly


Added Eurogamer to OP. Are there any stragglers among the big sites? Oh, Kotaku, I guess.

 

[Asimov]

Are the visuals some of the best for the system?

I was watching the Giant Bomb Quick Look and it looks amazing, specially the lighting effects.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

So if you think a game/book/movie/song is horrible and somebody else thinks its great, you don't think your opinion is right and there's is wrong? Isn't that sort of the way opinions work?

If you do this reviewing shit for a living, you shouldn't be saying that you are right and others aren't.

How hard is that to understand?

 

[tim.mbp]

can we not start this again, possibly


Added Eurogamer to OP. Are there any stragglers among the big sites? Oh, Kotaku, I guess.

NWR did a second review for Europe. Also a 9.5.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/33616

 

[Ninja Scooter]

If you do this reviewing shit for a living, you shouldn't be saying that you are right and others aren't.

How hard is that to understand?

You don't have to say it. It's assumed for anyone who understands how opinions work. She shouldn't have to justify why her score is lower than the average in the first place. She was simply stating her opinion, which is what she does for a living. How hard is that to understand?

 

[zroid]

NWR did a second review for Europe. Also a 9.5.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/33616

Thanks, updated

 

[dallow_bg]

Because giving this game a 6.5 for one of two potentially frustrating moments in a 12+ hours game is a fucking crime.

It's just one middling score. Who cares?

 

[dreamfall]

It's looking awesome- that Eurogamer review really amped me up!

I love that the puzzles and secrets will take time, and some major exploration is encouraged. This is going to be grand!

 

[SteeloDMZ]

You don't have to say it. It's assumed for anyone who understands how opinions work. She shouldn't have to justify why her score is lower than the average in the first place. She was simply stating her opinion, which is what she does for a living. How hard is that to understand?

Just no. Justifying your opinion the way the person from GS did is just childish and unprofessional, therefore making her weird score even weirder.

How hard is that to understand I ask you again?

 

[Clockwork5]

So if you think a game/book/movie/song is horrible and somebody else thinks its great, you don't think your opinion is right and their's is wrong? Isn't that sort of the way opinions work?

Not at all. Maybe they know more about film/literature/music than I do... Maybe I should ask myself if there was something I missed. Maybe I didn't approach the book/game/movie the way I should.

I have been wrong too may times in my life, changed my own tastes or given something a second chance and enjoyed it to ever discredit someone else's opinion. And that is what she did. She discredited every reviewer included in the Meta critic score.

She could have said SHE didnt enjoy it as much as they did, or SHE got frustrated with the game, or SHE found elements of the game lacking. But she said THEY inflated the game's score. It is all about perspective and realizing no matter how knowledgeable or skilled you are, there are still others who are more knowledgeable and more skilled than yourself.

Opinions, by definition cannot be correct or incorrect. so i refrain from attaching those labels to my own. That is all.

 

[Fabrik]

Me! I think it's a form of disrespect for what is clearly a labor of love.

 

[Hot Coldman]

If I think, for example, Luigi's Mansion is terrible, then my opinion is right in so far as that's what I believe. It doesn't mean that everyone, or even most people, will find it terrible. I'll still let people know my opinion, though, because discussion and the sharing of views is interesting and vital.

Well, until you find someone who doesn't understand that. (So, most of the Internet.)

 

[dallow_bg]

My order arrives Monday...

May buy tomorrow locally so I can play straight away.

Me! I think it's a form of disrespect for what is clearly a labor of love.

You're personalizing this video game way too much.
I would worry more about sales and see if Luigi can have be a hit with the consumers.

 

[Fabrik]

You're personalizing this video game way too much.
I would worry more about sales and see if Luigi can have be a hit with the consumers.

Maybe but I do think reviews can influence sales. And I'm just about fairness.
But I'm not worried regarding Luigi's Mansion sales. I hear it started well in Japan.

 

[Asimov]

My order arrives Monday...

May buy tomorrow locally so I can play straight away.



You're personalizing this video game way too much.
I would worry more about sales and see if Luigi can have be a hit with the consumers.

Buy locally tomorrow at your favorite retailer.

Return the unopened copy you are going to receive Monday to the retail store.

 

[Clockwork5]

If I think, for example, Luigi's Mansion is terrible, then my opinion is right in so far as that's what I believe. It doesn't mean that everyone, or even most people, will find it terrible. I'll still let people know my opinion, though, because discussion and the sharing of views is interesting and vital.

Well, until you find someone who doesn't understand that. (So, most of the Internet.)

Attaching labels like correct, right, wrong or incorrect to opinions is terrible for discussion though. And is nonsense because again, by definition, an opinion can be neither correct nor incorrect.

 

[zroid]

My review of this review thread: 4.5/10

 

[Hot Coldman]

Attaching labels like correct, right, wrong or incorrect to opinions is terrible for discussion though. And is nonsense because again, by definition, an opinion can be neither correct nor incorrect.

Er, yeah, exactly. That... was my point.

 

[SteeloDMZ]

My review of this review thread: 4.5/10

Subscription cancelled.

 

[Miker]

My review of this review thread: 4.5/10

This thread really did veer off in a strange (although not unexpected) direction. It's like a pseudo-mini GameSpot Twilight Princess.

Anyway, for anybody who pre-ordered from Newegg, they should have shipped your copy off already. Mine is coming from Tennessee and will get here Monday.

 

[dallow_bg]

Buy locally tomorrow at your favorite retailer.

Return the unopened copy you are going to receive Monday to the retail store.

That's my plan.
I've done it before.

 

[Fabrik]

My review of this review thread: 4.5/10

My review of your review of this review thread: 10/10

I'm out.

 

[Fireblend]

My review of your review of this review thread: 10/10

I'm out.

Peace.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

My review of this review thread: 4.5/10

What a horrible review. You didn't explain your thought process at all behind the review or what made this thread a 4.5/10. Leave the reviewing job to those who share my opinion.

 

[Nekki]

So if you think a game/book/movie/song is horrible and somebody else thinks its great, you don't think your opinion is right and their's is wrong? Isn't that sort of the way opinions work?

It's a damn game. When things come down to taste, there are a very small amount of situations where an opinion can be wrong (exceptions if it's based around flawed arguments).

She didn't like it. That doesn't justify her putting down others.

It's not a discussion about the holocaust or things that require a higher degree of involvement.

 

[The perfect Dark]

4Players.de

90%

http://www.4players.de/4players.php/dispbericht_fazit/3DS/Test/Fazit_Wertung/3DS/27363/79540/Luigis_Mansion_2.html

 

[Saint Gregory]

Did anyone who ordered from Newegg have their copy ship yet? Mine copy has been sitting on "packing" for days now :/

 

[nhlducks35]

Did anyone who ordered from Newegg have their copy ship yet? Mine copy has been sitting on "packing" for days now :/

Mine shipped today (around 12 AM) and comes Tuesday; I used 3 Day shipping

 

[Madouu]

Eurogamer 9/10
Said polterpup was the only padding and praised the visuals and animation, comparing it to Wind Waker.

Sweet. I wonder which will happen first now: the gamekult review or my order shipping.

 

[Saint Gregory]

Mine shipped today (around 12 AM) and comes Tuesday; I used 3 Day shipping

Thanks, it looks like some people who preordered on their discount promo are getting cancelled and I have a feeling that I'm next.