Wkd Box Office 0614-1613 - 'man' steals box office, the end is near
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In all honesty, I personally would have liked to have seen the Returns sequel over Man of Steel. From what I have read, it would have been truly redeeming and really fun.
http://screenrant.com/bryan-singer-superman-man-steel-brainiac-storyline-rob-91933/
The only real problem I had with Returns was the characterization of Lex Luther... He should have been an evil billionaire, not some criminal mastermind stealing from old ladies.
What is interesting is how it is playing out the complete opposite of Superman Returns. Returns had a really underwhelming opening weekend but had a pretty decent leggy run from there on out and was able to inch past 200 mil. Man of Steel on the other hand had a huge opening weekend but then fell off a cliff with a big drop-off.
Only Michael Bay has the ability of making mega blockbusters out of supremely shitty movies.
Man of Steel will make them money, international will guarantee that. But not Batman or Iron Man numbers by a long shot. It's just not the start to a franchise you'd want. Terrible post-opening weekend domestic gross isn't a base to build a franchise off of.
Diprosalic
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it's not like they put out super awesome stuff that the crowd ignores.
5 years since the last decent movie.
Lol
Can Crusher
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Oh but I thought Bomba of Steel was going to make like... Avengers money,
tru dat
No one ever said that...
People here got waaaay too worked up after the opening weekend numbers. Word of mouth doesn't start showing up till the second weekend. Which we now know how that worked out.
Can Crusher
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Look at this all seeing eye, no one ever.
Anyway, clearly it was a joke. What's not a joke is that there were people expecting Iron Man 3 numbers.
Thats a pretty huge range. 200 to 300 mil. It won't do Iron Man numbers domestically at this rate, and it won't make more than Batman Begins did adjusted for inflation.
I can't wait for Pacific Rim but I don't know anyone else in real life who does, I don't have a good feeling on it's performance. Not to mention it's tracking numbers have not been very good.
Can Crusher
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Maybe WB will catch a clue and hire Michael Bay for the next Superman. If you wanna go big and dumb, then go big and dumb the right way.
Pacific Rims looks like a soft performer to me.
Pacific Rims looks like a soft performer to me.
Batman Begins adjusted for inflation is only $255M. MoS has that locked. The movie will probably be in the $210-215M range after this weekend. Amazing Spider-man was sitting at $200M after a $34M second weekend, and it still made $60M after that point. That's with TDKR opening in week 3. Man of Steel will get a boost in its third week and fourth weekend thanks to the fourth of July. I still think $300M has a good shot at happening. If not, the film will be in the $285M+ range.
Can Crusher
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Man of Steel ain't getting any boost man.
Every film gets a boost from a holiday weekend. Fourth of July is Thursday, which means that many people will be taking that Friday off as well.
EDIT: Those who watch TV, has WB switched to advertising Pacific Rim yet? If that campaign doesn't get started they are going to be in trouble.
Future Foundation
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I'll bet "MoS Drops 70%" is a thread by the end of the night.
I've seen a couple of tv spots.
Are you talking about Friday or the weekend?
World War Z is overperforming by at least $15M for the weekend. Tracking had it at $40-45M.
I said $45M for Man of Steel on Wednesday, so I don't think it is underperforming by much at all. If it comes in lower than that, it won't be by much. Websites that were predicting $50-55M were not paying attention to the week day grosses. Early tracking had Man of Steel much higher, but that was the case last weekend too. Perhaps the film just plays well on Matinees, or perhaps the West Coast is not as interested as the East Coast?
TacticalFox88
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Damn. Here I was convinced MoS could potentially do a billion. :x
Only films that aren't direct sequels (or prequels) in the billion dollar club are Avatar, Titanic, and Alice in Wonderland. Harry Potter came close.
Original films/reboots usually don't have the same box office potential as sequels. Especially overseas.
Only in the very best of scenarios.
I just hope it can find a way get itself over 300 mil domestically after it leaves theaters.
Diprosalic
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just anecdotal evidence but you could hear the crickets in the MoS showings around here.
Matt_
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Wow it just keeps going down
If next weeks topic isn't something like 'Superman scared off by monsters and zombies' it will be a missed oppurtunity
Gunstarheroes
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Since its being talked about, is Pacific Rim really not tracking well?
A few places had MOS and WWZ both in the 50-55 range for the weekend. That's what I was talking about.
PhoncipleBone
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Batman Begins had great follow up weekends. It just didn't have a HUGE opening weekend. But it retained that audience pretty damn well after it. And rightfully so. It only dropped 43% on second and third weekends.
I think the only huge superhero movie to have better weekend holds that I can see was Spider-Man, which had approx 37-38% second and third weekend drops.
Yeowch. That is even lower than initial estimates.
What. Utter. Fucking. Nonsense. Though I have yet to see MOS myself Marvel's output was solid (Iron Man was an enjoyable romp. Thor and Captain America less so. IM2 is a disaster) and didn't really yield anything special until The Avengers which was good fun but largely overrated IMHO and yet they get praised for their output.
So how exactly are you equating MOS as 'a film the public didn't really like' and closing the door on the DCU entirely in one swoop? That's ludicrous. It might be a big drop in a crowded marketplace but to throw the baby out with the bath water is nonsensical.
And what exactly do you mean by 'Marvel type numbers'? Do you mean Iron Man 3 and Avengers numbers? Because if you do then fair enough. MOS should out gross Thor, Iron Man 1 & 2 and Captain America or, as they are otherwise known the majority of Marvel's output, in worldwide box office numbers.
MOS is still the number film in the worldwide marketplace according to Deadline with a number of major overseas territories still to go. The film has a long way to go yet before people start writing obituaries the DC franchise.
TacticalFox88
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So how does MOS...not doing well, bode for a JLA film?
Im worried about the sequel first.
PhoncipleBone
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It is the probably massive second weekend drop that is scary. While MoS has already outgrossed Thor, Captain America, and Incredible Hulk in the US, a drop that massive does not inspire confidence to continue with a sequel or sequels on the same path.
I still want a kick ass JLA film. Just not from the people behind MOS. At least not Nolan producing and Goyer writing. With the right material, Snyder could give us one helluva JLA film.
I said wow.
AdventureRacing
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I don't think anyone predicted that. Those that were predicting big numbers were probably expecting that the movie wouldn't be complete shit.
lol @ the spin here, especially from Cheebo & Phoncicle (duh).
Do you guys know that this was possibly the first weekend in the history of box-office where three movies had a good shot of opening 50M+?
What other comparable movies (to MoS) had two big openers 80M+ & 60M+ opening it's second weekend?
Come with an answer to that. Mmmkay
Do you guys know that this was possibly the first weekend in the history of box-office where three movies had a good shot of opening 50M+?
What other comparable movies (to MoS) had two big openers 80M+ & 60M+ opening it's second weekend?
Come with an answer to that. Mmmkay
Henchmen21
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Yes there was. Go into the MOS OT and go back to before last weekend and you'll see a few diehards inventing huge numbers based on no facts whatsoever.
PhoncipleBone
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lol @ the spin here, especially from Cheebo & Phoncicle (duh).
Do you guys know that this was possibly the first weekend in the history of box-office where three movies had a good shot of opening 50M+?
What other comparable movies (to MoS) had two big openers 80M+ & 60M+ opening it's second weekend?
Come with an answer to that. Mmmkay
How is it spin to point out that it dropped? How is it spin to show that another, far better comic book movie, had a better hold on the second weekend of release that was also during the same time of June? And that movie was a Batman movie. The numbers don't lie.
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