Wkd Box Office 06•14-16•13 - 'man' steals box office, the end is near

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Bit harsh to call it a bomb....it will end up some where between $250m -$280m domestically and probably around $350m international which gives it $600m+

Not too bad for a reboot

It'll be higher than your range domestically. Films don't gross $40M+ on their second weekend and then less than that over the remaining duration of their run. $280M is the very low end for Man of Steel, even with poor holds. $300M is not out of the question. It will need to make ~2x this weekend's number over the remainder of its run to hit that total. Summer dailies will help.
 
How much did Batman Begins make?

$205m total. (EDIT: kswiston is right with the $207. That is including the Dark Knight Trilogy showings I believe.)
$48.7m opening weekend. Smaller than MOS.
$27.5m second weekend. Only 43.4% drop, which is a very good hold.

Read my post again, that should help.

If word of mouth were better on MOS, it would not drop approx 70%. That is the biggest issue. The competition was going to take a bite out of MOS, but it took a huge bite because MOS missed leg day at the gym.
 
Bit harsh to call it a bomb....it will end up some where between $250m -$280m domestically and probably around $350m international which gives it $600m+

Not too bad for a reboot

$225 million budget + around $100 million in marketing.

Depending on how they worked out the international take, they're probably barely making money on it.

Not a bomb, but underperformed like crazy.
 
$205m total. (EDIT: kswiston is right with the $207. That is including the Dark Knight Trilogy showings I believe.)
$48.7m opening weekend. Smaller than MOS.
$27.5m second weekend. Only 43.4% drop, which is a very good hold.



If word of mouth were better on MOS, it would not drop approx 70%. That is the biggest issue. The competition was going to take a bite out of MOS, but it took a huge bite because MOS missed leg day at the gym.

It's really not fair to compare Man of Steel's drop to Batman Begins because of Begins' deflated first weekend. Remember it opened on a Wednesday so it burned off two days of demand by the time it got to Friday. Not that this is a good drop but obviously the competition took its toll on the film when this movie was already looking to skew a bit more frontloaded.

This was never dropping below 50% due to the large opening. Scale is something to be considered when measuring a hold. 55% drop for the weekend would have been considered a good drop believe it or not. It'll be a bit over 60 though unless it rebounds huge today
 
Deadline's updated friday numbers are up fully up now. Man of Steel fell a massive 71% from last friday, going to probably do a 65% drop for the whole weekend. That is toxic word of mouth type numbers. Someone on Boxoffice.com noted with how badly this has collapsed it will likely finish under what Superman Returns did adjusted for inflation. Crazy.

Lol math.

Friday numbers were 9 previews and 35 million friday on opening weekend for man of steel so if this made 12.7 it dropped 63% not 71% which is better than harry potter azkaban in june (70% drop) , and nearly as good as toy story 3 (57% drop). Azkaban made 250 in the end while toy story 3 made 415 in the end .

This is on par with expectations, don't try to spin it as bomba
 
$205m total. (EDIT: kswiston is right with the $207. That is including the Dark Knight Trilogy showings I believe.)
$48.7m opening weekend. Smaller than MOS.
$27.5m second weekend. Only 43.4% drop, which is a very good hold.



If word of mouth were better on MOS, it would not drop approx 70%. That is the biggest issue. The competition was going to take a bite out of MOS, but it took a huge bite because MOS missed leg day at the gym.

It dropped 63 not 71
 
Lol math.

Friday numbers were 9 million midnights and 35 million friday on opening weekend for man of steel so if this made 12.7 it dropped 63% not 71% which is better than harry potter azkaban in june (70% drop) , and nearly as good as toy story 3 (57% drop). Azkaban made 250 in the end while toy story 3 made 415 in the end .

This is on par with expectations, don't try to spin it as bomba

Every Friday Drop ever includes midnight previews from the first week. Hell, recently those Friday drops have been including Thursday Previews (as was the case with Iron Man 3). You can't cherry pick your number. Be happy that WB chose not to roll the Walmart previews into Friday.


Official Friday estimate for Monsters University is $30.5M

I am seeing both $25M and $25.5M for World War Z, but I think it is safe to say that the official Friday estimate will be in that range.
 
Man, some people really want MoS to fail purely for the justification of Superman Returns.

Like, there's some people who actually care which terrible Superman film makes more money.
 
I honestly think Pacific Rim will perform decently. There's been more and more TV spots popping up the last week or two and I think people are getting somewhat intrigued by it. Kids should theoretically eat it up...and we know it'll do decently in foreign box offices. I just hope it does well enough to justify a sequel. GDT deserves it.
 
Looks like Paramount's relentless advertising over the past couple of weeks has (sorta) paid off in the opening weekend. There's no way it's going to keep that momentum, but they got over one hill, at least.
 
Every Friday Drop ever includes midnight previews from the first week. Hell, recently those Friday drops have been including Thursday Previews (as was the case with Iron Man 3). You can't cherry pick your number. Be happy that WB chose not to roll the Walmart previews into Friday.


Official Friday estimate for Monsters University is $30.5M

I am seeing both $25M and $25.5M for World War Z, but I think it is safe to say that the official Friday estimate will be in that range.

Mos didnt have midnights it had 8 pm shows. Hollywood stopped midnights in 2012 after aurora so its not fair to compare 12 pm fridays with 8 pm thursdays
 
Man, some people really want MoS to fail purely for the justification of Superman Returns.

Like, there's some people who actually care which terrible Superman film makes more money.

I just want a better Superman movie than both of them. Looks like I will be waiting a long time.
 
So now we're in the outright denial stage?

There were midnight grosses. WB reported those grosses. Just because Aurora happened doesn't mean that studios can't choose to have screenings at midnight, nor theaters for that matter. Unless you're saying my friends were lying...

By my rough estimation, with about 50% drops give or take, Man of Steel gets to 300 million just barely. I think legs will stabilize following this weekend and we'll be in store for some sub 50 drops. I wonder if WB will do double features with Pacific Rim to prop up grosses.
 
I just want a better Superman movie than both of them. Looks like I will be waiting a long time.

We've had many great Superman movies over the years, but none of them carried the logo you wanted.

Films like the Matrix, for instance, demonstrate how it can be done right.
 
I honestly think Pacific Rim will perform decently. There's been more and more TV spots popping up the last week or two and I think people are getting somewhat intrigued by it. Kids should theoretically eat it up...and we know it'll do decently in foreign box offices. I just hope it does well enough to justify a sequel. GDT deserves it.

lets really hope so
 
Mos didnt have midnights it had 8 pm shows. Hollywood stopped midnights in 2012 after aurora so its not fair to compare 12 pm fridays with 8 pm thursdays

At least at every theater near me, MoS is the only recent movie that DIDN'T have 8/9 PM showings - it had the 7 PM Walmart screenings that didn't count for Friday anyway and then a bunch of showings at midnight.
 
Lol math.

Friday numbers were 9 previews and 35 million friday on opening weekend for man of steel so if this made 12.7 it dropped 63% not 71% which is better than harry potter azkaban in june (70% drop) , and nearly as good as toy story 3 (57% drop). Azkaban made 250 in the end while toy story 3 made 415 in the end .

This is on par with expectations, don't try to spin it as bomba
you can't take out midnight numbers. That isn't how it works at all.

Walmart 7 pm. Theaters 8 pm , closest to midnight was 11:30 pm
There was no 8 pm or 11:30 shows in America at all. Only the Walmart screenings. This opened at midnight. There was ZERO non-Walmart showings pre-midnight.

You are just making stuff up at this point.
 
If word of mouth were better on MOS, it would not drop approx 70%. That is the biggest issue. The competition was going to take a bite out of MOS, but it took a huge bite because MOS missed leg day at the gym.
More spin .. *sigh* How about you answer the question I posed way up on this page before you type out another post?

Iron Man 3 actually dropped 71% Friday to Friday.
:lol

Holy shit at that. Toxic word of mouth, awful movie. What a bomba, a drop that massive does not inspire confidence to continue with a sequel or sequels on the same path.
 
By my rough estimation, with about 50% drops give or take, Man of Steel gets to 300 million just barely. I think legs will stabilize following this weekend and we'll be in store for some sub 50 drops. I wonder if WB will do double features with Pacific Rim to prop up grosses.
300 million? Thats crazy! It's not even grossing 250M ..
Thats a pretty huge range. 200 to 300 mil. It won't do Iron Man numbers domestically at this rate, and it won't make more than Batman Begins did adjusted for inflation.
I think WB should just do us a favor and pull out MoS out of the theatres.
 
More spin .. *sigh* How about you answer the question I posed way up on this page before you type out another post?


:lol

Holy shit at that. Toxic word of mouth, awful movie. What a bomba, a drop that massive does not inspire confidence to continue with a sequel or sequels on the same path.

Although I'm sure you're being sarcastic, iron man 3 can afford that kind of drop when it's already made 1 billion. Mos, in its second week, can not. It's barely going to break even
 
I think WB should just do us a favor and pull out MoS out of the theatres.

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Maybe.
 
you can't take out midnight numbers. That isn't how it works at all.


There was no 8 pm or 11:30 shows in America at all. Only the Walmart screenings. This opened at midnight. There was ZERO non-Walmart showings pre-midnight.

You are just making stuff up at this point.

I wish if I had dreamed or imagined that I went at 955pm on Thursday to see this I would have seen a better movie.
 
Mos didnt have midnights it had 8 pm shows. Hollywood stopped midnights in 2012 after aurora so its not fair to compare 12 pm fridays with 8 pm thursdays

As others have said, it had mightnight showings. Also, no one is making special cases for every other blockbuster this past year that has had Thursday sneaks (I saw Iron Man 3 at 8 or 9pm on a Thurs. I saw Iron Man 1 on a Thurs as well) so I don't see why you are trying to claim that Man of Steel is somehow different.

From the data we have, 8pm-12am preview showing times yield roughly the same results as just 12am previews times. The last Twilight move did not have a larger than series average midnight, despite offering Thursday evening previews for the first time.
 
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