I don't think NYK have a first round pick they can put in a trade until 2020 or something. And Suns aren't just doing a straight swap of Dragic for Shumpert. Dragic is worth much more than that.
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I don't think NYK have a first round pick they can put in a trade until 2020 or something. And Suns aren't just doing a straight swap of Dragic for Shumpert. Dragic is worth much more than that.
King Tubby
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well the good thing is we have nothing to lose by keeping him. Its a long season maybe someone goes down and a team panics. Either way he has a lot of years left on that contract if bledsoe decides to book it, then so be it.
Future PhaZe
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Squall ASF
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I'm thinking of keeping the actual talent we have. Dragic and Bled are the only point of optimism for this season and then Len getting more experience, sooner. I guess it does come down to what you said, how insane a deal can we get, what's worth it? Except that you make it sound like it's a forgone conclusion and they'll simply take the best deal even if it's not worth it. Or do you think McD will truly weigh his value and consider keeping him? Because I just don't see any realistic package that's worth losing him for. He has value and for this team specifically, not many talented PGs want to stick around for a rebuilding team. That'd be crazy if we could get even more first rounders for this draft though.
Squall ASF
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No way of knowing. His coach in college didn't allow him to play an offensive game but he has some skill sets that could develop there and he has great agility for his size. There's at least potential. One thing is for sure, playing him instead of Gortat goes a long ways towards rigging for Wiggin.
I don't think he is starting anytime soon. They are going to be starting Plumlee (who has been solid this preseason and is looking like steal as far as throw ins go). Len really needs to get stronger and hope those ankles get healed soon. He is going to need a lot of time to develop he will need a year or two.
Its too early to say anything about him though we really haven't seen him play healthy.
Biyombo
Not really. Len is working his way back after injury. There's no need to throw a rookie to the wolves when they're recovering.
Dy ain even seen him play.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Len can't make shots other than dunks at college or NBA levels of efficiency and his motor and awareness kind of suck so I don't know how much his coach should really be blamed.
Future PhaZe
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Len has a chance of being Hibbert good after four or five years if he can manage to find a way to give a shit and find an answer to genetically weak ankles.
Rodeo Clown
All aboard! The Love train!
Not enough weak side blocks for the media.
I've tried to tell people this before he was drafted, and it has nothing to do with Miles Plumlee's potential PT. Len is a stiff
Speaking of Plumlee PT, it looks like Best Plumlee is actually going to get some burn this season. Kidd wants to keep KG in cryogenic hibernation until the playoffs and he clearly prefers Blatche at the 4 (and so do I) which leaves Mason as our backup center.
Adam Blade
WWKC
Best GAF draft tonight in nine hours, guys.
Don't forget.
Don't forget.
9? I thought it was 845 pst?
Adam Blade
WWKC
Crap, it should be 5:45 PST. There are a lot of East Coasters in the draft and 9 PM PST would be too late for them. Sorry.
Draft moved up to 5:45 PST / 8:45 EST.
Sorry for the confusion.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Thank god, I don't think I would have made it at 8:45 pst.
Adam Blade
WWKC
My fault guys, I really hated to do it last minute...
Drafted as a project in a weak draft. Said from day 1 that it'd be a 4 year process. Actually looking better than ever this preseason.
Len though... Maryland loves its bigs. I don't know why people think that their coach didn't want to use him. He just can't be used any other way. The guy is a project - but people think that he isn't. And that is what's going to get him done dirty.
Plus he's never been that kind of a worker either.
I'd never thought I'd say this, but Biyombo was a better pick than Len.
Edit: A substantially better prospect. Based on needs of team, ceiling, position in draft, etc.
Hasphat'sAnts
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He's not bad playing 15 minutes a game. Fouls a lot so that's about as much as he can play anyway.
Dominican Power
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Dolan: Hey Forever, don't watch me watch TV.
He has an inferiority complex.
Squall ASF
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He will, just not right off the bat due to his ankle. Just about every center takes a few years to develop. I give Len three seasons before I'd call him a bust unless other factors come into play or he has absolutely zero develop each year. It'd be foolish to think he'll be anything but inconsistent to terrible this first season but the early experience will be invaluable for quicker development and seeing what we have on him. He's in the ideal scenario right now, virtually zero expectations outside of how early he was picked as we are going to be a bottom feeder, a rebuilding team.
Which picks exactly do the Sixers have next year? I heard they're probably getting two lottery picks. If they can get both Wiggins and another top 6 pick, they're going to have a very fast turnaround. Wiggins, Noel, and say maybe Marcus Smart sounds really intriguing.
Celtics did us a solid so I'm kind of rooting for them to sit Rondo all year and get Wiggins. Although the Sixers and Suns are going to be hard to outtank anyway.
Celtics did us a solid so I'm kind of rooting for them to sit Rondo all year and get Wiggins. Although the Sixers and Suns are going to be hard to outtank anyway.
Squall ASF
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Suns are getting Wiggins, end of story! We'll have another 3 picks in the first round to get some other solid players around him too
Suns are getting Wiggins, end of story! We'll have another 3 picks in the first round to get some other solid players around him too
I'm almost looking forward to seeing you guys play the Sixers this year. They're going to be your biggest rivals in the race for Wiggins.
Psychological Intellect
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I still don't see the Sixers winning more than 9 games.
Greatest Tank of All Time.
Greatest Tank of All Time.
LegendofJoe
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I think the Suns will end up winning the lottery this year too. I just hope we'll actually move up in the lottery this year for the first time ever.
1) Suns
2) 76'ers
3) Celtics
4) Magic
5) Hornets
6) Lakers
7) Jazz
1) Suns
2) 76'ers
3) Celtics
4) Magic
5) Hornets
6) Lakers
7) Jazz
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
And still only a 25% shot of getting number one.
It truly is a marvel to behold
It's not like they're fucked if they get #2 or #3.
Yeah, in this draft a top 4 pick is money.
Future PhaZe
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Dragic and Bledsoe will go off here and there for a few wins.
Sixers? J-Rich will have to find the fountain of youth for them to get a single win.
Sixers? J-Rich will have to find the fountain of youth for them to get a single win.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Richardson is out for half the year (at least) with a knee injury and is roughly thirty pounds overweight right now as well. First-option Evan Turner coming up.
I would take a 1 in 4 chance at a franchise player.
Dominican Power
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Like Thad Young, Hawes, and Turner are not going to go off.
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