Same.
I definitely didn't expect the series x is be higher than the series s, that's the main outlier personally.
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2022 Holiday sales report: Xbox Series X wins Black Friday, Nintendo Switch wins Thanksgiving. Top games: COD: Modern Warfare II and GOW: Ragnarok.
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I definitely didn't expect the series x is be higher than the series s, that's the main outlier personally.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
And if PS5 wins for November this “better value” narrative is just…nonsense?
Umbasaborne
Banned
Like i said, at best buy yesterday there were stacks of ps5’s and series s’s, not a single series x though
I think NPD usually mention some BF stats but I could be wrong.
Not believing it is fine, there’s reasons to be suspect, but propaganda? Adobe’s holiday sales report doesn’t give a shit about who wins
Fess
Member
Someone said they were actually scanning receipts, that’s more than NPD’s estimation and extrapolation magic, so this is no doubt a legit result.
But it’s just for Black Friday.
There is no way PS5 isn’t outselling Xbox in november with the Ragnarök release and bundle.
jm89
Member
But Xbox was cheaper in August, September and October? And gamepass was also around? And ps5 still beat it, how did that happen?
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The logical inference is that Washington examiner are mixing up the XSS and the XSX. It’s probably the Xbox Series in general.
Not sure how you aren’t making that inference.
No price cut for the Series X
There weren’t any. The only XSX deal you’d see on Slickdeals was the short lived Instagram shopping blanket deal.
DenchDeckard
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I legit thought there just weren't any series X, as so much evidence points to loads of stock of ps5s and series s piled up in stores and no series x. From photos etc.
I was under the impression Microsoft were thinking, well we have so many series s we will just go with that for black Friday and clear them out, best way to go against a ps5 nd god of war bundle.
I question this data and wait for npd and confirmation but if it does turn out series x was the leader I'll be shocked. Looks like he reason there's no sign of them in stores as they were just flying out the door while it was slower on other SKUs.
Yeah, I just spend 300 bucks on my Xbox series x , it's worth every buck that ive spent , there are actually many great games , listen to Xbox store reviewers, they are honest deep to their heart , Don't listen to the trolls and fanboys of the internet , there are many and you could barely find an honest guy and girl there , it's a swamp , don't even waste your time there cause you'll get sick from it.
zomboden
Banned
my brother purchased 2 series s for his kids friends to use for fortnite/roblox when they come over. i think he got them for 200$ each with the target deal. I think the price cuts attracted a mainstream audience this black friday. Will it be enough to win NPD? I doubt it because PS5 stock has been improving
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anothertech
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This is no propaganda but context has to be put.
It's Adobe Statistics, they track online sales only, the charts are about hot items in general.
In different articles covering these data they say that both Series X and PS5 were hot items in gaming. Effectively there's no mention of Series S but we know that both PS5 and Series S have been well stocked.
So who knows, I think it's better to wait for actual PR next week which may not be released for the US market so it's about November NPD.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Xbox is cutting prices. Sony is raising them.
This result is not a surprise.
This result is not a surprise.
MasterCornholio
Member
I'm confused. I thought the US was the territory that they didn't increase prices in.
Sony has not raised prices in the US.
The only model Xbox model this report mentions is not the cheap one that was heavily discounted and properly stocked.
So the conclusion should be that higher priced systems are more desirable than Series S even at a huge discount??
But as I said these reports have to be put in context. It's a "hot items" chart and Adobe tracks online sales only.
It's basically wait for NPD or actual PR next week ( which may not arrive given that both Sony and Microsoft are trying to downplay their success for regulators
).
jm89
Member
Except the regions which actually got price increases Sony outsold Xbox. Uh oh.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
This is sound logic. I don't trust the report.
Ain't no way with the launch of God of war and loads of stock of ps5s piled up in stores.
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DForce
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If that was the case then Xbox would have won way more NPDs.
GHG
Member
The Adobe digital price index has been a leading indicator for inflation over the last couple of years, their data is accurate.
yurinka
Member
When looking at the main value differentiator, which are the big exclusives/system sellers, I don't see MS getting the lead this year. I'd wait to see official data from the industry sources like the platform holders, NPD, Famitsu, the European ones and so on.
I have no idea for other industries, but it never has been using in gaming to track game or console sales.
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Adobe analytics will purely be online sales
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Just surprised me because most Black Friday shoppers seem to be moms looking to score deals for Christmas Presents who I would think would be looking just at price tags
Couple that with the fact the Series X has been sitting on shelves for months now unless a ton of people jumped on the $100 off the X sale on the MS IG store
I do agree with what
CatLady
said earlier that the article has it worded in a way that is just says the top selling items included these things not "these are the top 5 items sold" type of wording
Thirty7ven
Banned
So they won November? Or just… one day?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Well there you have it. I think Sony will take it overall.
Especially with the god of war launch.
you’re waiting to see official data from Famitsu and Europe to confirm spending patterns in the US during the November holidays?
Is everything OK?
They aren’t tracking game or console sales. They just reported analytics from surveys etc on hot items on Black Friday. Toys, games, movies, drones, everything.
They didn’t ask Eddie to open a thread here.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Eddie makes SO many threads about Xbox it's insane. He's like the Nibel of Xbox.
jm89
Member
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
Dude is making up for the time lost from his ban.
At this rate he'll be nominated for Content Creator of the Year at next TGAs
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yurinka
Member
I want to see reliable NPD data for US, reliable Famitsu for Japan, the different typical European rankings for EU etc. plus also reliable data from the console makers for wordwide console sales. Or at least numbers from one of the few reliable gaming market analisys firms, or from the US or EU gaming trade unions.
I reject to believe or give too much attention to numbers from a website I never heard before that mentions a source that game companies never used to track their sales or to analyze the market. The reliable sources I mention follow a proper methodology that provide accurate results.
I can make a poll on twitter or track what the store that is next to my home sells, but that doesn't represents a shit compared nation/region/global wide real sales.
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TheGodfather07
Member
Wouldn't be too surprising as xbox does perform well in the US in November and December. I still expect PS5 to take November though because of ragnarok. Xbox won't be far behind though.
Interfectum
Member
Fun thread but this data is not accurate.
Fess
Member
It’s good but could be better, it’s more aimed at adults for sure but that’s the gaming industry at large outside of Nintendo.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
Member
That's happened more than a few times in previous years TBH. There were years where 360 won BF but lost November to the Wii, for example.
In general, Salesforce seems pretty reliable. They're one of the top CRM companies globally and work with a ton of Fortune 500 companies. TBF, though, it seems like these reports are for online sales, and systems like PS5 in particular have invite and query lists for a lot of retailers, or where you can only place in an order via membership.
OTOH, the Series S is readily available online, with no queries or membership hurdles or invite lists to speak of. You can go on any top online retailer website, find a Series S, put it in your cart and purchase it any time of day, any day of the week. The Series X is somewhat similar, though less so, but if it was among the top-selling console for BF then MS probably did hold back Series X stock for that day/holiday event in particular.
I still don't see Xbox taking NPD for November though. Both PS5 and Switch had huge releases this month, with strong sales for the entirety of the month. There were also a lot of MW2 PS5 bundles for November outside of Thanksgiving & Black Friday. I'm still expecting the rankings to be either PS5 or Switch for #1 and #2 (slightly leaning Switch takes #1 and PS5 #2), and Xbox Series #3 in unit sales.
However, PS5 will likely take #1 by revenue, and it might be a toss-up between Switch and Series for #2 by revenue though I expect Switch to take that (Switch has not gone on steep sales or promo pricing to the level of Series S, if at all) and Xbox #3 in hardware revenue for the month as well.
In absolute terms though, all three should generate a ton of revenue for the month TBH.
