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[bitbydeath]

Before you join in on the "8K is pointless", "you must sit X feet away, and have X screen size", or "the human eye cannot see the difference between 4K and 8K", just remember you will be joining the legions of memes who thought this in the past about lower resolutions.

And they were all wrong.


720P -> 1080P

1080P -> 4K

4K

 

[Musashipan]

Can't wait for 16k

 

[SJRB]

So what you're saying is videogame journalists are fucking retarded and should be ridiculed at every opportunity

 

[Bernoulli]

8K isn't possible
Current high end cinema cameras all shoot at 4k and some at 6K downscaled to 4K
8k is just a waste of storage and compute power
Before moving to 8k there needs to be 8K content

 

[Bojji]

 

[HRK69]

8K isn't possible

 

[bitbydeath]

Can't wait for 16k

Yep, it will no doubt play out the same as all the others.

 

[Boglin]

Can't wait for 16k

Everyone recognizes that 8k is just an uninteresting step to the golden resolution of 16k.

 

[bitbydeath]

So what you're saying is videogame journalists are fucking retarded and should be ridiculed at every opportunity

A lot of gaffers are falling for it and saying the same thing.

 

[Unknown?]

Ahhh good times, remembering how people trashed 1080p, saying its upgrade from 720p wasn't noticeable. Oh and all the people saying BluRay wasn't needed because their DVDs were upscaled to 1080p.

 

[bitbydeath]

Before moving to 8k there needs to be 8K content

Chicken/egg scenario.

 

[SHA]

It's not just about the number of pixels, it's much more complex than that, a single pixel could do a lot more than what you've ever imagined, even @720p, you could still do a lot more than what we experienced like image clarity.

 

[bitbydeath]

Until the graphics look like real life, we aren't there.

 

[TintoConCasera]

I can see 8K being cool for VR and such but, on a TV in the living room? I don't know man, I think we are still quite far away from that.

 

[bitbydeath]

I can see 8K being cool for VR and such but, on a TV in the living room? I don't know man, I think we are still quite far away from that.

Keep in mind that the UE5 8K texture demo was the biggest wow factor we have received so far this gen.

 

[N30RYU]

Can't wait for them to match de 8k price to the 8k resolution

 

[Bernoulli]

Chicken/egg scenario.

4K gaming started in 2014, 10 years later games still can't run at stable 4K without fake frames

 

[TGO]

We have vision equivalent of 32k
We don't need a higher resolution we need to fill the current pixels we have, that why the difference isn't as noticeable, fill those pixels and the difference will be massive.

 

[bitbydeath]

4K gaming started in 2014, 10 years later games still can't run at stable 4K without fake frames

1080P had the same issues when 4K arrived.

 

[Diddy X]

Maybe they were wrong in the past, but this time I feel it's pretty realistic to say that the difference between 4K and 8K is negligible in most cases.

 

[Puscifer]

Until the graphics look like real life, we aren't there.

So just watch a movie?

 

[analog_future]

Until the graphics look like real life, we aren't there.

Resolution has literally nothing to do with graphics looking like real life at this point. There's a reason most Hollywood level sfx are rendered at sub-4k.

 

[Danjin44]

Until the graphics look like real life, we aren't there.

God that would be so boring.....especially playing games like Astro Bot I want games with interesting aesthetics rather than boring realism.

 

[Puscifer]

1080P had the same issues when 4K arrived.

What are you even saying here? That 1080p got worse when 4K arrived? Because that's asinine. PC was playing 1080p smoothly far back as 2005, it took roughly another 8 years for 1440p by 2012/2013 for 1440p to become the new mainstream resolution and maybe if Ray Tracing never came into the picture 4K/60 would be a reality but that's proving to not be the case time and time again as now Path Tracing in real time demolishes the most powerful GPU on earth that they've resorted to fake frames + on chip video processing to make it a reality.

 

[bitbydeath]

Maybe they were wrong in the past, but this time I feel it's pretty realistic to say that the difference between 4K and 8K is negligible in most cases.

Still wrong.

 

[bitbydeath]

So just watch a movie?

How bout both?

 

[Puscifer]

Maybe they were wrong in the past, but this time I feel it's pretty realistic to say that the difference between 4K and 8K is negligible in most cases.

Not to mention unless we start filming everything in 70MM and they start upscaling those 6K DIs you aren't going to see a difference.

35mm film scans have a physical maximum of 4K when scanned, there's ZERO detail to be gained doing so and I bet at that point we're going to be AI upscaling. You really have no clue what you're asking for here, do you?

You're being sold useless technology because companies literally don't know how to sell anything anymore.

 

[Puscifer]

How bout both?

Because if you want games to look like real life what's the point? There's no creativity there and it's a waste of time and resources.

 

[Barakov]

Before you join in on the "8K is pointless", "you must sit X feet away, and have X screen size", or "the human eye cannot see the difference between 4K and 8K", just remember you will be joining the legions of memes who thought this in the past about lower resolutions.

And they were all wrong.


720P -> 1080P

1080P -> 4K

4K

>4K is a gimmick
>Username is Peasant

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

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[bitbydeath]

Resolution has literally nothing to do with graphics looking like real life at this point. There's a reason most Hollywood level sfx are rendered at sub-4k.

Animated movies are often rendered in 16K.

 

[Makoto-Yuki]

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[adamsapple]

 

[Sooner]

8k is still stupid. Even if you can tell a difference, that difference doesn't even come close to be worth the costs.

 

[bitbydeath]

God that would be so boring.....especially playing games like Astro Bot I want games with interesting aesthetics rather than boring realism.

*Only referring to games with that art style as it shows clearly how far we have to go.

 

[bitbydeath]

What are you even saying here? That 1080p got worse when 4K arrived? Because that's asinine. PC was playing 1080p smoothly far back as 2005, it took roughly another 8 years for 1440p by 2012/2013 for 1440p to become the new mainstream resolution and maybe if Ray Tracing never came into the picture 4K/60 would be a reality but that's proving to not be the case time and time again as now Path Tracing in real time demolishes the most powerful GPU on earth that they've resorted to fake frames + on chip video processing to make it a reality.

No, that 1080P was often not native when 4K arrived.

 

[bitbydeath]

Because if you want games to look like real life what's the point? There's no creativity there and it's a waste of time and resources.

That is just one art style, others can also be greatly improved.

 

[bitbydeath]

and watched on a 4K screen.

Yep, down sampled. Which 8K games can also do to improve the experience for 4K gamers.

 

[poppabk]

So just watch a movie?

Not 8K unfortunately.

 

[Wildebeest]

No, that 1080P was often not native when 4K arrived.

You could play non widescreen PC games at that sort of resolution before 1080p became common. It wasn't impossible, more of a culture of console devs just rendering at lower quality, which is still common now. Really, the mathematics of scaling up past that seems more brutal, as the megapixels do not go up linearly as you go from resolution to resolution.

 

[analog_future]

Animated movies are often rendered in 16K.

Not remotely true.

 

[Throttle]

If you are using a large screen up close 8K may be of benefit. I was using a 40 inch 4K TV as a monitor on a table and it didn't looked very sharp, as you would suppose 4K should look. Now with a 4K 27 inch monitor in the same table it looks correct. Not at all a waste of pixels as some people are claim, and still not "perfect", but good.

8K should be perfect for the 40 inch screen as a monitor, but at that size and distance it was uncomfortable to use, specially in full screen apps. The 27 inch would probably benefit from "5K" resolution, but maybe 8K would be a bit too much for it.

 

[JimboJones]

There's nothing wrong with 8K, it will be great it's more that in the here and now yes it's pretty stupid. No hardware can provide a satisfactory gaming experience at that resolution.

 

[ap_puff]

I honestly don't think 8k will catch on for a long time, if at all. Currently iirc most 8k displays are banned in the EU due to power consumption, and the tech moves pretty slowly. We don't even have mass adoption of OLED yet and microLED is probably gonna push it out due to costs for the average consumer

 

[amigastar]

VR Glasses need 8k but TV's with 4k are enough for now.

 

[RoboFu]

My eyes can only see in 240 anyway

 

[Shifty1897]

My old ass eyes really can't tell the difference between 1440p and 4k on my 65" OLED. The performance cost of rendering in 8K is not worth the visual fidelity increase when you can spend those GPU resources on something else, like ray tracing.

 

[DryvBy]

I have seen 8K in Best Buy and I really didn't know if there was a difference that is notice.

 

[nikos]

8K shouldn't be the next step, 21:9 should be.

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Fun fact: 8K is the ideal for retrogames. It allows integer scaling for every console output resolution from 240p to 4K.