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AMD Radeon 9070XT review thread

Boss Mog

Member
I'm impressed by the RT performance, they managed to hold their own against the nearest Nvidia GPU (5070). Granted Nvidia phoned that one in, but still it's holding up a lot better than the 7000 series.
Things can change real quick in the tech world, a near monopoly can quickly crumble, just ask Intel. AMD seem to be on the right path while nVidia continues to treat gaming as an afterthought and instead focus mostly on AI since it's more profitable. We'll have to wait to see how things play out but if AMD were to gain over 50% of GPU marketshare a few years down the road, I certainly wouldn't be shocked.
 

SolidQ

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FSR4 Compatibility List​

 

SolidQ

Member
FSR auto lol.
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Buggy Loop

Member
Things can change real quick in the tech world, a near monopoly can quickly crumble, just ask Intel. AMD seem to be on the right path while nVidia continues to treat gaming as an afterthought and instead focus mostly on AI since it's more profitable. We'll have to wait to see how things play out but if AMD were to gain over 50% of GPU marketshare a few years down the road, I certainly wouldn't be shocked.

You dreaming bruh

A CPU in a PC has no software advantage, you slap it in, it's gonna crunch x86 instructions. Intel was too damn fucking stubborn to move away from their 18nm to 14nm++++++ for nearly a decade.

Nvidia ain't sitting on their ass. They don't hesitate to change foundry. They are still at the front of any software advantages for either offline rendering or gaming.

Treating gamers as an afterthought is also exactly what AMD is doing here. They stacked these cards for over 2 months to have a "wow" much stock effect with a fake MSRP. Bait and switch MSRP in fact



You had an early adopter rebate if you scored MSRP during launch. Now it'll effectively go back to roughly ~-$50 Nvidia. Which goes against all hopes that Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed had for these cards. This is RDNA 2 2.0 (RDNA 4..). Perception online seems like they are winning and then you end up opening Steam hardware survey 1.5 years later and see that the whole series has clawed 1.4% in the top 100 list and RTX dominates.

A couple of weeks or a month or two of low price is not enough to make any impacts.

If you wanted to end the duopoly, Intel is almost the only way forward.

@ me in the next 10 years or 20 years if AMD ever claws its way to +10% even, let alone +50%.
 

winjer

Gold Member
Already got Ghostwire Tokyo and Amid Evil to work with Optiscaler and FSR4.
I was never able to get Amid Evil to work before. So this might mean that this method of injecting FSR4 might work in all games.
I'll test with more games, to see what works.

Remnant 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered just work with FSR4, as the driver does all the work. Really nice.

Regarding power and undervolting.
At default, my GPU just sets the power target to 246W and then clocks as high as possible.
I was expecting it to work at 2500Mhz, like most 9070s. But at default, this thing goes to 2900 mhz.
When I tried undervolting -150mv, to my surprise, power usage didn't lower. But then I noticed that the GPU clocks were at 3300Mhz. This thing just clocks like crazy.
But it wasn't stable, so I still have to find what works and what doesn't.
Temperatures are really nice with this Red Devil.
 

Kataploom

Gold Member
I think 12gb gddr7 version would be nice for those that want roughly console level version with bit extra resolution
That's literally what I get from a 6700 XT, plus better performance overall sure to it still being 30% more powerful than consoles GPUs and having a decent CPU. All the current gen cards already on the market are a whole league above
 
You dreaming bruh

A CPU in a PC has no software advantage, you slap it in, it's gonna crunch x86 instructions. Intel was too damn fucking stubborn to move away from their 18nm to 14nm++++++ for nearly a decade.
AVX512

Treating gamers as an afterthought is also exactly what AMD is doing here.
Of course they are. Why would they care about gamers? Gamers don't care about AMD until Nvidia start charging too much.

They stacked these cards for over 2 months to have a "wow" much stock effect with a fake MSRP. Bait and switch MSRP in fact
Quite simply, AMD does not have the supply chain to meet the demand for all of the gamers that Nvidia hasn't been able to supply. A manufacturer with 10% marketshare cannot and should not be expected to be able to supply 90% of the market, or even 50%. They can't do it, it is not possible.
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member



That why RDNA5 is reboot for AMD. They just going merge a lot things from RDNA and CDNA for RoCM (UDNA just marketing name)

New radical shader reordering and sorting mechanism to minimize divergence
That coming in RDNA5 - https://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2025/0068429.html
Also Matrix Cores and other things

Man, finally. If AMD pulls this off, they will start taking market share from Nvidia and press their margins.
 

Topher

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Of course they are. Why would they care about gamers? Gamers don't care about AMD until Nvidia start charging too much.

Not necessarily. AMD fell far behind Nvidia in advancements with upscaling and RT. I would have happily purchased an AMD GPU instead of Nvidia many time had it simply been a matter of price, but there is more to it than that.

Gamers are only going to "care" about a company when that company brings a product worth caring about to market. That's really the only time gamers should "care". Companies like AMD should care if they want to stay in the gaming business.
 
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Man, finally. If AMD pulls this off, they will start taking market share from Nvidia and press their margins.
That's great to hear. Hopefully next generation will show some good results! I've personally given up looking for an MSRP card since they no longer exist, so I might just build a whole new machine next year with AMD flagship components.
 

MikeM

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I managed to use Optiscaler to inject FSR4 into a game that has FSR3.0: The OuterWorld Spacers Choice.
And it also looks really good. I'm surprised it worked at all.
This program is also able to inject DKLSS and XeSS, into games that only have FSR2/3.
So it's very versatile.
First I have heard of this. Is it hard to do? How do you know FSR4 is active?

I want to run this on my 9070xt.
 

winjer

Gold Member
First I have heard of this. Is it hard to do? How do you know FSR4 is active?

I want to run this on my 9070xt.

Might be a bit confusing the first time, to get all things setup. But after you have one game ready, it becomes very easy.
First download the program from Github.


If you have any suspicion, you can pass it through VirusTotal to check if it's safe.
I did that and here is the result.

Then extract all the files to where the game's executable is. For most games this is very simple, but for UE4 and UE5 games, it has to be on the folder where the exe win64-shipping is.
After that, you can run the "OptiScaler Setup.bat" to do things automatically or you can do it manually. This basically changes the name of the "OptiScaler.dll" to match the GPU you have.
Using the bat file, pick option 1, then option 1. This will work for most games.

To add FSR4, you will need the FSR4 dll from AMD. You probably already have the Adrenalin 25.3.1 installed. So the dll is on the Windows folder.
Just search for "amdxcffx64.dll", then copy that dll into the game folder, where all the Optiscaler files are.

Then run the game. When inside the game, go to the game's options and set the upscaler to DLSS.
Then press "Insert" key. The Optiscaler menu will appear.
By default, it will pick XeSS. On the top left corner. Pick the option FSR3.X.
And it will inject FSR4. If you do not have the FSR4 dll in the game folder, it will fallback to FSR3.1

Very important: For any of these mods to work, it's necessary to disable the Nvidia checks, or it will block these mods. Yes, nvidia is a very petty company.
You will need a file taht is in the the mod "dlssg-to-fsr3 mod". I put the link to it at the bottom of this post.
Just run the "DisableNvidiaSignatureChecks.reg" file. You will only need to do this one time.

Optiscaler also has a ton of options to tweak. You won't need most of them. But if you notice some textures are low resolution, you might need to setup the MipMap Bias.
Just pick the upscaler scaling. For example, Quality. Then press calculate, and it will enter the correct number automatically. Then press "Set".

Whenever you change anything in this mod, and you want to keep that, press the "Save ini" option at the bottom.
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If you also want to replace Reflex with Antilag2, you will need fakenvapi.
Download it from Github:

Then extract the files to where the game's exe is. Which is also, where all the Optiscaler files are.
Then enter the game, go to the options menu and turn on Reflex.
In some games, there are 2 options. "Reflex" and "Reflex+Boost"
The last option is for Nvidia GPUs to keep the clocks higher, at a steady rate, to improve frame pacing.
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Finally, if you want to replace Nvidia Frame Generation, you will need dlssg-to-fsr3 mod.

Just copy the files to the folder where the game's exe is.
Then go to the game's options and turn on nvidia FG.

You can also check the Antilag2 and FG settings in the Opstiscaler menu.
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P.S: for CP2077, you can't use the inputs from DLSS. It has to be from XeSS of FSR3. So you have to choose XeSS or FSR3 on the game's menu.
I prefer the XeSS inputs, as it gave a better image stability.
 

Loxus

Member
It is a massive shame AMD cancelled the high end RDNA 4 GPU.
Or at least make a 96CU version similar to the 7900xtx. That card would of made a statement.

But yes, I agree AMD should of never cancelled the high end cards.



This would probably have been the lineup for RDNA4.
9060xt: (32CU) 128bit GDDR6
9070xt: (64CU) 256bit GDDR6
9080xt: (192CU) 256bit GDDR7
9090xt: (288CU) 384bit GDDR7

A 9090xt would of been insane base on how good the 9070xt is.
 
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Luipadre

Member
Really curious how the market share will be by the end of the year. Even tho there are still stock shortages especially in the EU, but if they can keep up the restock every week, they will sell a fuckton of amd cards. I saw lots of comments from people who just bought their first AMD cards. All in all, this is good for PC gaming
 

SolidQ

Member
I agree AMD should of never cancelled the high end cards.
Because N4C was Expensive like 2.5-3k$ card, and they was thinking 5090 gonna be crazy, like 50% perf per sm + 512 bit etc. If they going to get market share, they will back to halo cards.
RDNA5 for now is 1k$ max planned, but they can change thoughts and make again halo.
 

Rosoboy19

Member
Or at least make a 96CU version similar to the 7900xtx. That card would of made a statement.

But yes, I agree AMD should of never cancelled the high end cards.



This would probably have been the lineup for RDNA4.
9060xt: (32CU) 128bit GDDR6
9070xt: (64CU) 256bit GDDR6
9080xt: (192CU) 256bit GDDR7
9090xt: (288CU) 384bit GDDR7

A 9090xt would have been insane base on how good the 9070xt is.

The silicon-to-price ratio usually gets worse as you increase the size of the gpu. At some point AMD probably just can’t afford to eat the cost of top tier cards since they are currently the “value” brand.

 
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FingerBang

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The silicon-to-price ratio usually gets worse as you increase the size of the gpu. At some point AMD probably just can’t afford to eat the cost of top tier cards since they are currently the “value” brand.


Exactly. They could have made a 4090 competitor, but they realized no one would have bought it at the price they needed it to be.

And the bigger the chip, the lower the yield usually. I also suspect power consumption might have been the real reason. What would a 9090xt consume? 700W? If they don't work on efficiency, they can't push things that far.

That said, in a generation or two, with FSR4 and better RT it might be worth it. 5090 performance (with worse RT) for $1300-1500 would probably sell enough to justify the production. I think the 9070XT is a great stepping stone, they just need to build on it
 
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Loxus

Member
144CU, not 288
Not too sure how accurate, but it was leaked to have over 200CUs with 9SED.

Beastly specs revealed for cancelled AMD RDNA 4 flagship
When discussing Navi 4X, adroc_thurston, who appears to be familiar with this planned AMD RDNA 4 flagship GPU, reported that the graphics card had over 200 CUs. Specifically, they said that the GPU had “a fair bit” over 200 CUs. This suggests that AMD’s planned flagship may be over two times as powerful as AMD’s RX 7900 XTX. After all, AMD’s Radeon RX 7900 XTX has 96 total GPU Compute Units (CUs).
 
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SolidQ

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Not too sure how accurate, but it was leaked to have over 200CUs with 9SED.
older data, latest was 144CU 550W. We won't know RDNA5 specs until next year. Just pure speculation
All companies change specs during tests.
 
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