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Pristine_Condition said:
That happened with an Ultra Carry II that I had too...it was pretty bad. The Wilson magazines didn't seem to help either. Really wanted to keep the gun, but in the end just sold it instead.
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That happened with an Ultra Carry II that I had too...it was pretty bad. The Wilson magazines didn't seem to help either. Really wanted to keep the gun, but in the end just sold it instead.
Pristine_Condition
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Here's the pic I promised, of my latest 1911...great book it's sitting on, too:
It's the limited-edition, "Rolling Thunder" .45 by Smith & Wesson. It's absolutely gorgeous. The photo doesn't do it justice. The engraving on the sides is everywhere, little tiny scrolls everywhere, even in places you might miss, like surrounding the magazine release, and in the little gap between the grips and the beavertail. The "Rolling Thunder" logo is .24 gold.
But as pretty as it is, the rest of the pistol is pure custom combat-style--the top is completely glare-free, grooved fore, checkered backstrap, Novack's low-profile sights, skeletonized trigger and hammer...really nice.
Apparently the gun was sold in a glass case with a POW-MIA Patch, two mags, and some other stuff. Like I said though, when I got it, it didn't have any of that stuff. Inside the envelope was just the gun, one mag, (which I proptly swapped with Wilsons, as you can see,) and a really nice piece of Galco leather. It had been test-fired too.
It's kind of a nice deal, actually. First off, I didn't pay for it. It was a gift. Second, I've kinda always wanted a really beautiful gun with gorgeous work like this, but I like more combat-style shooters.
This is like the best of both worlds. It's a certainly hybrid of the looks I like, except for the grips, which I will replace with something I like. But I don't think I would never own a strictly "collectable" firearm. I like to shoot 'em, and I really would want to change the grips, so a beauty like this would be really hard to justify, if I was buying it.
Since this one's collectable value is basically blown, I don't feel bad about shooting it. I've done so already, and it's a real tight grouper. I love it. I'm going to change the grips with something really nice, but more me, and shoot, shoot, shoot it.
Yeah. It's sad. They make beautiful firearms that have that form/function thing I like. But when you get one that's terrible, and you find out it's sort of a common problem, and nobody seems to be able to fix it, it bums you out. How hard is it to do an extractor in a 1911? Especially an EXPENSIVE 1911? I understand that if you really hammer Kimber over the problem they'll replace the whole slide for you on these guns, but I just got sick of dealing with it, frankly.
It's the limited-edition, "Rolling Thunder" .45 by Smith & Wesson. It's absolutely gorgeous. The photo doesn't do it justice. The engraving on the sides is everywhere, little tiny scrolls everywhere, even in places you might miss, like surrounding the magazine release, and in the little gap between the grips and the beavertail. The "Rolling Thunder" logo is .24 gold.
But as pretty as it is, the rest of the pistol is pure custom combat-style--the top is completely glare-free, grooved fore, checkered backstrap, Novack's low-profile sights, skeletonized trigger and hammer...really nice.
Apparently the gun was sold in a glass case with a POW-MIA Patch, two mags, and some other stuff. Like I said though, when I got it, it didn't have any of that stuff. Inside the envelope was just the gun, one mag, (which I proptly swapped with Wilsons, as you can see,) and a really nice piece of Galco leather. It had been test-fired too.
It's kind of a nice deal, actually. First off, I didn't pay for it. It was a gift. Second, I've kinda always wanted a really beautiful gun with gorgeous work like this, but I like more combat-style shooters.
This is like the best of both worlds. It's a certainly hybrid of the looks I like, except for the grips, which I will replace with something I like. But I don't think I would never own a strictly "collectable" firearm. I like to shoot 'em, and I really would want to change the grips, so a beauty like this would be really hard to justify, if I was buying it.
Since this one's collectable value is basically blown, I don't feel bad about shooting it. I've done so already, and it's a real tight grouper. I love it. I'm going to change the grips with something really nice, but more me, and shoot, shoot, shoot it.
RapidCancel said:
Yeah. It's sad. They make beautiful firearms that have that form/function thing I like. But when you get one that's terrible, and you find out it's sort of a common problem, and nobody seems to be able to fix it, it bums you out. How hard is it to do an extractor in a 1911? Especially an EXPENSIVE 1911? I understand that if you really hammer Kimber over the problem they'll replace the whole slide for you on these guns, but I just got sick of dealing with it, frankly.
Synth_floyd
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I don't get guns. Why bother to spend all that money and effort on something if you're just going to end up doing nothing but shooting targets with it? With rifles you can hunt with them but pistols are just for target shooting and self defense in the 1 in a 1000 chance that you get robbed and are able to get to your loaded gun in time and are able to ward off the attacker. It seems mostly to be a cultural thing though.
Pristine_Condition
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Synth_floyd said:
Seems like your problem isn't that you don't "get" guns. The fact that you took the time to respond suggests that the problem is that you don't "get" that different people have different interests. Because that's all it is.
I don't "get" motorcycles. At all. But I "get" the fact that some people like them, and I can sorta put myself in their place and understand why they do. I can look at the machines themselves and see that there is a history of design, and some engineering and workmanship there. But I don't "get" why anyone would want to own or want to ride one. Whatever. That's freedom of choice.
For people that like pistols:
-Shooting pistols is fun.
-It's a skill that you can improve with practice. We keep score.
-Whether purely functional, or beautiful, the guns themselves are brilliant machines.
-As machines, they are almost limitless in their differences. You can try many before you find what you like, and then, if you like you can tinker with that until you make it something that is truly just the way you want it to feel, look, and behave. You can do a little, or you can do a lot--you can even go so far as to load your own rounds for exactly the performance you want.
-Even if it is unlikely, the capacity for self defense is still a good thing. In the unlikely event, in the "1 in a 1000 chance that you get robbed," well, there you go... I don't know what would happen, but I know my odds, as a gun owner who is skilled at shooting, of being able to "get to [a] loaded gun in time and [be] able to ward off the attacker" are a helluva better than yours are, right? I don't feel like carrying a firearm on my person, but I certainly don't mind having them at home, and I like the freedom of being able to get a CCL if I would want one.
To me, it's no more baffling than why people buy extremely fast cars that they may never drive as they were designed to drive. Cars are fantastic machines. Some people like to drive them. Some people like to work on them. Some people just like to look at them. Whatever.
And as to the "well you only shoot targets" thing, well, isn't that the same as guys who love fine guitars, and only play them alone in their rooms, and never join bands or play on stage?
So recently a house in my little community was robbed. They robbed the owners at gunpoint, and beat them. The victims were 2 old people. What sick fucks. Anyway, now my family wants to stock up on some weapons. :lol
I think we may be getting a 20 gauge from someone. Not sure the details on it though. The only thing we own right now is a .38 snub nose. I really want a pistol. Anyway, what are some of the ideal home defense guns. The state police basically told us to kill them if they break in.
I think we may be getting a 20 gauge from someone. Not sure the details on it though. The only thing we own right now is a .38 snub nose. I really want a pistol. Anyway, what are some of the ideal home defense guns. The state police basically told us to kill them if they break in.
Robobandit
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Added another to the collection... -
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It's a Sig Sauer P226 W. German model..triple serial, date code KB (1991)..
Now that I've shot it, I believe I've made some terrible error.. my sig collection is missing a lot of calibers..and I feel the need to remedy this problem as quickly as possible..
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It's a Sig Sauer P226 W. German model..triple serial, date code KB (1991)..
Now that I've shot it, I believe I've made some terrible error.. my sig collection is missing a lot of calibers..and I feel the need to remedy this problem as quickly as possible..
teacupcopter
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I'm from Australia, and I think self defense won't let you shoot someone if you're being robbed (not that anyone has guns here anyway)
Are Self Defense laws in America such so that say if you woke up at night and saw someone crawling around with your TV you could shoot them right there? Or only if they have a gun or weapon pointed at you?
Are Self Defense laws in America such so that say if you woke up at night and saw someone crawling around with your TV you could shoot them right there? Or only if they have a gun or weapon pointed at you?
WanderingWind
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Looking at the Saiga 12, but anytime I move states, I have to file for an exemption to own the damn thing. I never really paid much attention to it, but damn, some of the laws for gun ownership are convoluted.
ElectricBlue187
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Depends on which state you're in. Here in SC we have castle doctrine which means if someone is breaking into your house they'd better be prepared to get shotteacupcopter said:
ChiTownBuffalo
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Going to Detroit, Detroit proper, not a burb, over the weekend for an event on 10/30. Will be in a new SUV, with thousands of dollars worth of camera/computer equipment.
Have a CCW permit in Colorado that will be honored in Michigan, as I still have a CO driver's license. Debating whether or not to exercise this privliege.
Have a CCW permit in Colorado that will be honored in Michigan, as I still have a CO driver's license. Debating whether or not to exercise this privliege.
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Pristine_Condition said:
That gun is a real beauty. I remember reading about it and I love those POW MIA grips. Very cool. Hope you enjoy that, I love 1911s.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Yoritomo said:
I've always wondered about the Kel-Tecs. How is the width? Pretty thin?
This becomes more relevant as I consider the best way to conceal a H & K USP .40.
evil solrac v3.0
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does anyone find it odd that there are a lot European weapons makers who make quality stuff yet it seems (to me at least) that a lot European countries and it's citizens outright reject guns fr self-defense and otherwise?
ChiTownBuffalo
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Well, most of the European arms manufacturers like H&K, FN, Glock, have manufacturing plants in the US. Some places just assemble, or they do that and manufacture for sales to countries that have no agreements or relationships with Austria, Belgium, etc.
So, it could be, "We manufacture the weapons in the numbers we do, in the countries where we have the most sales."
So, it could be, "We manufacture the weapons in the numbers we do, in the countries where we have the most sales."
ChiTownBuffalo said:
Very very thin. Can also be pocket carried as long as you don't wear tight jeans, or you're slightly taller. It's probably the largest of the guns I would consider a pocket gun. Out of the Colt Pocket 9, Kahr PM9, Rohrbaugh R9, and the kel-tec it's very slightly larger than the others in length and height. I believe it's the thinnest and lightest though. Slightly thinner than the technically smaller Kahr PM9. I believe it's also the absolute lightest 9mm you can get. I would fire one before you buy one. I would include the Taurus but I hate that thing so much primarily due to the grip angle. Firing it straight feels really unnatural to me.
If price is an issue the kel-tec is really the only choice. Although I'd never suggest trusting your life to a 300 dollar difference.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Might pick up a pre ban Daewoo K2 over the holiday weekend.
Will post pics if I get it.
Will post pics if I get it.
Lionheart1827
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ChiTownBuffalo said:
A thanksgiving MIRACLE! Was this spurred by the korea thread or have you been looking into it? I didn't even know about that gun until you just mentioned it.
I'm actually looking into getting a new pistol one of these days. I love my Taurus PT1911 but 45acp is a bit expensive. Probably gonna look into getting a Glock 9mm, probably the 19 or the 36. My brother has the 19 as his duty and the 36 as his off duty. Says both of them are great
So Big5 is having a gun sale.
Mosin Nagant for $99 pretty usual sale, I was thinking of getting one as my first gun but I can't shoot it in my local indoor ranges.
Then I saw they had a bunch of .22 rifles for sale.
Namely a MP5, AK47, and some variations of the M16 by Colt all of these shooting .22lr. all for $399 each.
I've been reading that the GSG-5 is really good for a .22 plinker but the Big5 one is branded ATI. Also some people have been complaining about the Colts accepting ammo and cycling.
Anyone have thoughts? I'd like to know before the sale ends friday.
Mosin Nagant for $99 pretty usual sale, I was thinking of getting one as my first gun but I can't shoot it in my local indoor ranges.
Then I saw they had a bunch of .22 rifles for sale.
Namely a MP5, AK47, and some variations of the M16 by Colt all of these shooting .22lr. all for $399 each.
I've been reading that the GSG-5 is really good for a .22 plinker but the Big5 one is branded ATI. Also some people have been complaining about the Colts accepting ammo and cycling.
Anyone have thoughts? I'd like to know before the sale ends friday.
TheOrangeKid007
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A lot of that will depend on he size of the gun. Very small guns can make for a difficult day at the range especially if they are larger caliber. I have seen some of the Derringer style guns with 7+ inch barrels, they look like little cannons. But if you are looking for something very small that will give you two shots, be prepared to be in and out of the range in no time.
I personally like the Glock 26 for a subcompact. I would recommend trying one out though. They can be hit or miss depending on the size / shape of your hands.
I personally like the Glock 26 for a subcompact. I would recommend trying one out though. They can be hit or miss depending on the size / shape of your hands.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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For taking to the range and home protection, the last thing you should be thinking about is a Derringer. Inaccurate, slow follow up shots and reload, no rail for light mounting, poor ergonomics and usually very bad safeties.Weenerz said:Thinking of picking up a Derringer of some sort, anyone have a recommendation? I have heard great things about Bond Arms. I mostly want a pistol that I can take to the range, and of course home protection
If you are going to pull that trigger, you need to know that bullet is going to go where you are aiming. Derringers are wildly inaccurate and if you did bring one to the range, you would surely find that out. What if those few shots you have in a Derringer, aren't enough? Have fun reloading that under extreme stress conditions.
I would suggest looking into a shotgun like the Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 for the uses you are looking for. They are cheap to shoot, which means for good practice at the range. Not to mention most shotguns, especially pump-actions, are extremely reliable, which is what you need to trust your life with.
If you must go with a small pistol, I would look into a Kahr P9, Springfield XD Subcompact or a Glock 26/27. All 3 are small and compact, but offer way more firepower than a Derringer.
Dreams-Visions
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still loving my XD.45 ACP Compact.
that is all.
that is all.
Pristine_Condition said:
That is a pretty ass gun. I would smang it.
Also, I am looking into getting into pistol target shooting. I want something light, super-accurate and reasonably powerful. Any advice?
Also, will pistol clubs let me store my gun there? Don't want to keep it at home.
Old Gimlet Eyes
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I would see if there are any shooting ranges near by that offer rentals. That way you can get a chance to fire a variety of different pistols and calibers. There are lots of different pistols to choose from and really the best way to know which is right for you, is to get your hands on them.OuterWorldVoice said:
As for a light pistol, there are a ton of great polymer frame guns out there. Glock, Springfield XD/XDM series and the Smith & Wesson M&P are what I would look into. They are all very accurate and you will be the limit of the accuracy, not the pistol. That said, I would look into a 9mm, as it is cheap to shoot. That will mean better accuracy for you and more range time, which is what a shooter needs most. 9mm is also plenty powerful enough, especially when loaded with 127gr +P hollow points.
As for storing at a pistol club, well I'm not really sure. Possibly joining a range as a member might let you do that. However, there might also be some liability issues involved with that, really not sure. I'll ask someone with a bit more knowledge and try to get back on that one.
ChiTownBuffalo
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Darkshier said:
Psssh.
I SAY PSSSSSH, SIR!!
TheOrangeKid007
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Can't go wrong with a 9 mm. Good power and availability. Don't let people tell you they are weak. I don't know how much gun experience you have but when you fire one you will see...and subsequently think "This would freaking hurt if I got shot by this".
Old Gimlet Eyes
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Holy Fuck, I stand corrected! :lolChiTownBuffalo said:
OuterWorldVoice said:
Right on, 9mm is a great caliber and I think it will do you well. It's hard to buy a pistol when there are so many choices out there though. What size you might want, full size or sub compact, ease of takedown/cleaning (they are all pretty easy) safety or no safety (depends on the make), availability of parts/accessories, etc.....
If I could have any 9mm I would take either the Springfield XDM 9mm with it's 19 rounds in the magazine + 1 in the chamber. Hard to beat that kind of firepower. I would also take a Sig Sauer P226 and be just as happy with it's extreme durability and reliability.
Agent Ironside
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So what seemed like forever, I finally got my tax stamp in not too long ago. Will put some better pics up later.
Citizens owning Class 3 weapons FTW.
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Citizens owning Class 3 weapons FTW.
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Dreams-Visions
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congrats.
I'll hopefully be putting my paperwork in next month for my Class 3 so I can buy my suppressor.
I'll hopefully be putting my paperwork in next month for my Class 3 so I can buy my suppressor.
Manos: The Hans of Fate
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Speaking of Class 3 Weapons and Suppressors....Check out this site
http://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc/autos?sz=800x600
http://www.westernfirearms.com/wfc/autos?sz=800x600
Agent Ironside
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Dreams-Visions said:
Im so tempted to get a suppressor for it, but I have too much money into this gun as it is. lol
Thanks for the congrats everyone.
BattleMonkey
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Just picked one of these up, love the extended tube look and extra shell capacity. Trying to decide on the folding stock to get for it. $299 so I was happy with the deal.
Was also at the gun show looking for a Jericho and only one dealer had one, in a 9mm model. I seem to not be able to find it in .45 or .40 like I want, will have to try and see about special ordering one I guess from a local place as twice the gun show has failed me.
Was also at the gun show looking for a Jericho and only one dealer had one, in a 9mm model. I seem to not be able to find it in .45 or .40 like I want, will have to try and see about special ordering one I guess from a local place as twice the gun show has failed me.
Never done it, but if you are comfortable stripping the weapon in detail apparently it's not too hard: http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?123776-How-hard-is-it-to-install-an-ambi.-safety-on-a-USPFlo_Evans said:
You're only allowed a firearm in Australia if you hunt or shoot targets, self defense isn't a valid reason. You also have different catergoies of licenses such as for pistols, shotguns and longarms/rifles. No semi-auto shotguns or rifles unless you're employed by the government. To be able to hunt, you either have to be part of a gun club or know someone with a hunting property. To get ur pistol license you have to join a pistol club and can't get anything over 9mm unless you do big-bore shooting competitions.
NegativeZero
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Agent Ironside said:So what seemed like forever, I finally got my tax stamp in not too long ago. Will put some better pics up later.
Citizens owning Class 3 weapons FTW.
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What are class 3 weapons?
Lionheart1827
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NegativeZero said:
I believe its suppressed weapons(I think maybe automatic as well but not sure). Not sure if it includes explosives as well. I think you can only obtain class 3 weapons if they were manufactured before 1986 so they are probably WAY more expensive, too.
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