Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Wow, that's pretty bad. Hopefully it's something they can fix before release.
Glad I'll be playing on PS4, at any rate.
Glad I'll be playing on PS4, at any rate.
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Apparently the Division on PC has a fatal flaw in it's code that allows easy cheating
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Zomba13
Member
You'd think during beta tests designed to stress the servers that you'd turn on the features that stress the servers to see if they hold up with a small amount of people so you can be more confident they will hold up when the game launches.
Not if the Beta is a glorified demo not reflective of the problems the game may be facing at launch.
They may be dishonest, but they're not stupid.
Instead of randomly guessing if they can fix this or can't fix it, or what this actually means, what would be really useful is if we could get a comment from the dev team.
Does anyone know a dev on twitter? Has anyone sent this info to a website to try and get them to contact ubisoft for a comment?
Does anyone know a dev on twitter? Has anyone sent this info to a website to try and get them to contact ubisoft for a comment?
GHG
Gold Member
This needs to be in the OP.
stan423321
Member
Well guess what, prepare for even more shenanigans!
captainraincoat
Banned
Ubi aint the best at stopping cheaters....i can load up a trainer on dying light and enter peoples games and slaughter them with godmode...unlimted ammo...ect...still has not been patched
Same with r6...u can load a trainer on single player...level up your character and give him tons of renown then jump back online
Trainers have been around for years....
Same with r6...u can load a trainer on single player...level up your character and give him tons of renown then jump back online
Trainers have been around for years....
GHG
Gold Member
Dying light isn't an Ubisoft game...
Hello? This is Hailun!
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Hello? This is Hailun!
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OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM UBISOFT
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...anti-cheat?p=11332858&viewfull=1#post11332858
http://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...anti-cheat?p=11332858&viewfull=1#post11332858
Phanatic8390
Member
If you read that thread they're mostly discussing the invisible player problem which does appear to actually be a glitch. There is nothing in that thread before that post about client/server checks. I wouldn't really consider that acknowledgement of the issue.
The far more likely scenario here is that there are critical stability problems in the server-side checking algorithms so they disabled the checks so that the limited beta could proceed as scheduled.
Validating the data coming from the client is one of the server's primary duties. You don't just not do that in production code.
Validating the data coming from the client is one of the server's primary duties. You don't just not do that in production code.
https://twitter.com/hamishbode/status/693887497986805760
Hamish Bode - Community Developer for The Division at Massive
PedroLumpy
Member
That doesn't seem like it actually addresses the topic in this thread.
Do either of them give any additional context? That twitter conversation is just vague enough that it could be about invisibility bugs etc. rather than the client/server side stuff.
captainraincoat
Banned
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Beta builds in their current form we get now are usually much older clients (like a demo), than what they have now. This may have been something that is no longer set like this in their internal builds.
And like some have suggested, this may have have been intenational for testing purpose.
I refuse to believe they are that naive.
And like some have suggested, this may have have been intenational for testing purpose.
I refuse to believe they are that naive.
M_A_C
Member
Look up some of the PC Rainbow Six Siege cheater/hacker videos of people being so blatant with it and there is seeming no repercussions.
MutonCommander
Banned
It seems like an easy thing to fix.
Working perfect here.
Orochinagis
Member
So the community doing Ubisoft work.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Really? Will do.
Always been par for the course with online gaming, especially on the PC sadly.
You mean, beta testing? Lol
are you on mobile? It's probably related to the 90 MB gif posted.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
is this 1999? client side Diablo trainers lol
that Ubi post on this still seems rather... specific to certain glitches, not the entire client side thing. that said, I can't imagine any serious MP game since about 2005 keeping such data client side lol i mean, not even ubisoft should be making that error. could not even be a glitch but just something they left in a debug version of the client so that internal QA could more quickly edit/test data.
that Ubi post on this still seems rather... specific to certain glitches, not the entire client side thing. that said, I can't imagine any serious MP game since about 2005 keeping such data client side lol i mean, not even ubisoft should be making that error. could not even be a glitch but just something they left in a debug version of the client so that internal QA could more quickly edit/test data.
Doesn't Siege use FAIRFIGHT? So that doesn't work in Siege either as in Battlefront.
did people forget that this was a beta? lol... like the WHOLE POINT is to find stuff like this so they can fix it...
so... good job?
NumberThree
Member
How do you know all this?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Good. Good. Ubisoft is delusional. Good.
SentryDown
Member
It will be fixed guys, don't panick, you'll have other opportunities to board the Ubisoft Hate Train.
EDIT : Cheating will exist anyway guys, that's PC, may I remind you that about 1 millions players get VAC banned each year on Steam and that's only for modifications of original files that get detected, many other bans comes with internal system such as CS GO Overwatch
EDIT : Cheating will exist anyway guys, that's PC, may I remind you that about 1 millions players get VAC banned each year on Steam and that's only for modifications of original files that get detected, many other bans comes with internal system such as CS GO Overwatch
Is it possible to even fix this? If they just move the variables onto the server, the fact is players can just alter the modifiers to those variables client side if they keep the same structure.
They'll actually have to recode the architecture for this and that's an absurd amount of work.
They'll actually have to recode the architecture for this and that's an absurd amount of work.
SentryDown
Member
They definitely don't have to recode the whole architecture for a small thing like this, they just need to add a few script client and server side to check small variables.
SomedayTheFire
Member
What? lol they did change the biggest "complaint" from the battlefront beta. man random battlefront shitposting is getting tedious.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
That Reddit post is pure speculation. Who releases a "beta" with checks like this OFF? That makes zero sense. I don't see a plausible scenario in which they just "left the checks off because servers cost money" or anythjng of the sort.
stan423321
Member
Not necessarily. It isn't outright impossible to make a completely serverless PC game which prevents "forbidden action based" cheating (as opposed to graphical hacks, bot help etc.), at least in the sense of "everybody else sees you doing idiotic stuff"; it simply costs "some megahertzes". However what we've seen so far does not look promising.
And now they say it could be possible hacks/cheats and not just glitches lol
Hold it, the game isn't even out yet.
CyberPunked
Member
It's not a port.
Eh...They're not desperate enough to charge for bullets as microtransactions...yet.