Gamer_By_Proxy
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Why does balanced modes need HDMI 2.1?
I thought HDMI 2.1 was just required for 4k/120fps
I thought HDMI 2.1 was just required for 4k/120fps
Assassin’s Creed Shadow - Rendering Modes Revealed (PS5/PS5 Pro)
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
in b4 "but ackwhallly the watermelons are not growin in japan at that time of the year and on 1:44 you can see a watermelon so ubisoft is ultra trash"
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If I'm not mistaken, hdmi 2.0 doesn't support 120hz at 4K.
hdmi 2.1 is minimum for 4K at 120hz. The game might be internally rendering lower but the output image is still 4K, so it would need that bandwidth, and the 40fps mode needs 120hz support on the display end.
That's my basic understanding.
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Luipadre
Gold Member
Im pretty sure this is PC footage
Topher
Identifies as young
Why do you say that?
Luipadre
Gold Member
Because it looks too clean to be a 60 fps pro footage with really high ress textures aswell. If the Pro version really runs at around 800p upscaled to 4k, that would look considerably worse than this.
Topher
Identifies as young
We don't know what rez it is running at here though. What was reported in the past could have changed.
Lokaum D+
Member
dont talk bad about ps5 pro or ps5 pro brigade ll come after you, they are many over here
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Topher
Identifies as young
Eh....we got a substantial anti PS5 Pro "brigade" here as well. I've seen plenty of shit thrown in both directions
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Performance Mode:
Quality Mode:
Balanced Mode:
Series S:
PS5 Pro:
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Right, but what if my tv has 2.0 and 120 support and 4k support. Just can't do 4k@120 . . . what does that have to do with 4k@40 balanced mode?
Day one on the Pro.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I dunno, guess we'll find out in a few days if it works @ 40fps on hdmi 2.0 or not.
Skifi28
Member
On my old 2.0 monitor I could use 40fps modes, but with the resolution set to 1440p. In order to utilise 40fps you are running in 120hz so I imagine that hits the limit of 2.0
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It's probably down to VRR support which requires 2.1 on the PlayStation consoles. Hopefully that means they implemented LFC for a smoother Balanced mode.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I've seen the physical edition marked down to €60, so I'm tempted to grab it on day one after seeing some of the more recent gameplay.
Also, I'm currently playing through SW Outlaws in the 40 fps balanced mode on the Pro, and it plays and looks great (the image quality is good after the most recent patch, with the exception of the RT reflections which are still pretty low res; the controls are also very responsive for a 40 fps mode).
And yeah, I know that AC Shadows uses a different custom engine than Outlaws, but if the balanced mode plays similarly to Outlaws, then that's more than good enough for me. I'm not going to bother with the 60 fps mode with limited RT GI and probably pretty bad IQ.
Also, I'm currently playing through SW Outlaws in the 40 fps balanced mode on the Pro, and it plays and looks great (the image quality is good after the most recent patch, with the exception of the RT reflections which are still pretty low res; the controls are also very responsive for a 40 fps mode).
And yeah, I know that AC Shadows uses a different custom engine than Outlaws, but if the balanced mode plays similarly to Outlaws, then that's more than good enough for me. I'm not going to bother with the 60 fps mode with limited RT GI and probably pretty bad IQ.
Skifi28
Member
Technically 2.1 is not required for VRR, it's just the only way to be sure that it's supported. Individual TVs/monitors are known to support VRR even in 2.0 but you have to look up your model to be sure.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
ah. Sucks. I didn't get the pro cause I don't feel like upgrading my TV right now. It has basically all the bells and whistles before hdmi 2.1 and VRR.
It's just 4k with all the HDR and 240hz i believe.
Mister Wolf
Member
Nice that Pro gets RTGI in Performance Mode. That's a big upgrade over the regular PS5.
Ironman_Bad
Member
Yeah they polished this lol it's gonna be eye candy on the pro
bbw_lover87
Member
It look great, imma get dat ubisoft+ this month to play it lets go baby
yamaci17
Gold Member
u a something of a sekiro enjoyer huh
Saiyan-Rox
Member
I wonder if being able to turn off all ray tracing could bump to native 4k? (At least on pro)
RedC
Gold Member
I'm sorry this deserves it's own thread.
RedC
Gold Member
I created a thread like a dumb ass
Topher
Identifies as young
On second though, you may be right here. I initially thought this was a PlayStation video, but it isn't. This is just a Ubisoft video with PS branding. So probably is a PC version of the game here.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I was worried that RTGI was getting axed for all consoles, after rumors started circulating a couple weeks ago that it would be cut.
This is a big relief as a Pro owner and a bigger deal than people realize. It would've been easier for Ubi to just remove it from all consoles for the sake of "parity" (remember when they did that back on ps4?). This is a big deal because it sets a precedent for Ubi and other 3rd parties to not ignore the power of the Pro.
They could've still had the "Pro enhanced" tag without RTGI ...just up the resolution or add pssr and called it a day...not risked missing off regular ps5 owners but they didn't.
This is the way things should be of course but we can't exactly trust devs to do things the right way these days.
This is a big relief as a Pro owner and a bigger deal than people realize. It would've been easier for Ubi to just remove it from all consoles for the sake of "parity" (remember when they did that back on ps4?). This is a big deal because it sets a precedent for Ubi and other 3rd parties to not ignore the power of the Pro.
They could've still had the "Pro enhanced" tag without RTGI ...just up the resolution or add pssr and called it a day...not risked missing off regular ps5 owners but they didn't.
This is the way things should be of course but we can't exactly trust devs to do things the right way these days.
memoryman3
Member
So many games seem to have the Series S version be the Series X Performance Mode, running at 30fps. Going to be interesting to see how it will cope when Series X games inevitably start targeting 1080p at 30fps.
This gives hope for a very good PS5 pro upgrade for GTA6.
saintjules
Gold Member
From the Truck Simulator dev who was talking about SDK and PSSR versions
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Gonzito
Gold Member
I have talked to a friend who is playing it too, he says that the game is very polished and bug free and that on ps5 pro it looks really good.
He is not too happy with the story though
Edit: Btw this friend hasn't told me why the story is weak or anything, he just said that he is not a fan so far which doesn't surprise me coming from Ubisoft at this point
He is not too happy with the story though
Edit: Btw this friend hasn't told me why the story is weak or anything, he just said that he is not a fan so far which doesn't surprise me coming from Ubisoft at this point
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usamarslan
Neo Member
Damn they downgraded the Balanced mode on PS5 Pro to Standard Ray Tracing instead of Extended. What's the point of playing on Balanced now?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Wait, they did?
Where do you see that?
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I see.
The picture on the page still shows Pro Balanced as Extended, but the information text below it says Balanced will have RT GI only, not reflection, which is "Standard" in their own verbiage.
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TrebleShot
Member
Sign up to Ubi+ for a month, play and finish it, cancel ubi+ then buy it at some point on sale for half price if I enjoyed it?
Yeah sounds good to me.
Yeah sounds good to me.
usamarslan
Neo Member
You can also check out the playstation blog in the first post, it got updated at the end of the page.Wait, they did?
Where do you see that?
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I see.
The picture on the page still shows Pro Balanced as Extended, but the information text below it says Balanced will have RT GI only, not reflection, which is "Standard" in their own verbiage.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
High-end QLED is an oxymoron.From the Truck Simulator dev who was talking about SDK and PSSR versions
GymWolf
Gold Member
Do you mean pssrsecution complex?!
So there is less benefit going for balanced mode. Let's hope the res is a lot higher. I see here someone said that. Let's hope is true.Wait, they did?
Where do you see that?
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I see.
The picture on the page still shows Pro Balanced as Extended, but the information text below it says Balanced will have RT GI only, not reflection, which is "Standard" in their own verbiage.
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Putonahappyface
Member
I was starting to come around to a future purchase and that news has really pissed me off.
darthkarki
Member
I don't think that's accurate. I guess we might need to see the final result to be sure, but that seems like a miscommunication. Both the main image at the top and Question 1 of the FAQ both say that Balanced is using the same Extended ray tracing as Fidelity:
I think they just messed up the listings of which modes have which features in Question 2 - everything else indicates Fidelity and Balanced are the same, leaving Question 2 as the odd man out and most likely that's the mistake.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think that's accurate. I guess we might need to see the final result to be sure, but that seems like a miscommunication. Both the main image at the top and Question 1 of the FAQ both say that Balanced is using the same Extended ray tracing as Fidelity:
I think they just messed up the listings of which modes have which features in Question 2 - everything else indicates Fidelity and Balanced are the same, leaving Question 2 as the odd man out and most likely that's the mistake.
The PS blog updated too, they striked out Extended and replaced Standard in that area.