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[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

I'm glad I wasn't here for that $78M estimate lol.

With $82M, it'll be difficult to reach $170M, which I think is the benchmark required for us to be certain it'll outgross Deadpool. The signs of WOM so far are not encouraging in the slightest, and with Snyder's track record, a sub 2.1 multiplier can easily happen. If the weekend comes in at $165M, I don't think it's beating Deadpool, and that'll be one hell of a thing for the media to grab onto even if the foreign total still propels it to $1B.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Here is the prediction thread again:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1199205&highlight=predict

 

[gamz]

I'm glad I wasn't here for that $78M estimate lol.

With $82M, it'll be difficult to reach $170M, which I think is the benchmark required for us to be certain it'll outgross Deadpool. The signs of WOM so far are not encouraging in the slightest, and with Snyder's track record, a sub 2.1 multiplier can easily happen. If the weekend comes in at $165M, I don't think it's beating Deadpool, and that'll be one hell of a thing for the media to grab onto even if the foreign total still propels it to $1B.

If it doesn't outgross Deadpool..... that's straight up embarrassing for WB.

 

[Surfinn]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but I didn't realize the fan score is 73 percent. Not that it matters, but I'm surprised it's that high. Wonder if other poorly rated comic book movies also follow that pattern.

 

[Primethius]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but I didn't realize the fan score is 73 percent. Not that it matters, but I'm surprised it's that high. Wonder if other poorly rated comic book movies also follow that pattern.

It's been mentioned by other users that the movie had around 110k reviews a couple of weeks before release. So that percentage is heavily inflated.

 

[gamz]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but I didn't realize the fan score is 73 percent. Not that it matters, but I'm surprised it's that high. Wonder if other poorly rated comic book movies also follow that pattern.

Typically they open big and get great reviews,” said one insider, scratching their heads over the audience’s solid B CinemaScore and the 30% Rotten Tomatoes rating. Of those demos giving the film a higher grade: Under 18 at 22% gave it an A- while under 25 at 40% gave BvS a B+

Quite often branded tentpoles are teflon to poor reviews, and, yes, BvS is another example of the trend. Only Bond films have to sweat critical response since their fans skew older and that demo reads reviews. But it isn’t often that we see a movie open to $100M-plus off of panned reviews and OK audience reactions. Of note, BvS joins Twilight: Breaking Dawn 2 ($138.1M opening, B+ CinemaScore, 24% rotten) and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen ($109M opening, B+ CinemaScore, 19% rotten).

http://deadline.com/2016/03/batman-v-superman-opening-weekend-box-office-records-1201726300/

 

[Surfinn]

It's been mentioned by other users that the movie had around 110k reviews a couple of weeks before release. So that percentage is heavily inflated.

Ah, thanks. Makes sense then.

 

[E the Shaggy]

Listen Batman meeting Superman was always going to do well financially, but when its getting the reviews its getting, do you think people will be more or less willing to shell out money for an Aquaman or a Cyborg?

That's the shit that will make WB start getting antsy.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Depends on whether WB Marketing gets the greenlight to (tastefully) throw BvS under the bus as a comparison point.

 

[BigDug13]

Listen Batman meeting Superman was always going to do well financially, but when its getting the reviews its getting, do you think people will be more or less willing to shell out money for an Aquaman or a Cyborg?

That's the shit that will make WB start getting antsy.

70+% user score on BvS. Critics hate it. Public likes it.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

If this thing ends the weekend a couple mil south of 160?

It won't be panic mode, but people at the studio are going to be pretty fuckin upset, I think. Luckily, it appears overseas is treating it better than we are.

I thought it was on the lower end for the Chinese BO?

 

[Sibersk Esto]

70+% user score on BvS. Critics hate it. Public likes it.

see above

 

[ryan299]

Listen Batman meeting Superman was always going to do well financially, but when its getting the reviews its getting, do you think people will be more or less willing to shell out money for an Aquaman or a Cyborg?

That's the shit that will make WB start getting antsy.

Is there one person who actually thinks Cyborg is getting his own solo movie? I sure don't. I've thought since the beginning that his film would be turned into a Titans movie.


This movie needs to do at least 100 million next weekend.

 

[Chamber]

I'm glad I wasn't here for that $78M estimate lol.

With $82M, it'll be difficult to reach $170M, which I think is the benchmark required for us to be certain it'll outgross Deadpool. The signs of WOM so far are not encouraging in the slightest, and with Snyder's track record, a sub 2.1 multiplier can easily happen. If the weekend comes in at $165M, I don't think it's beating Deadpool, and that'll be one hell of a thing for the media to grab onto even if the foreign total still propels it to $1B.

Even Hulk had a 2.1 multiplier and that was in June. I don't think that's likely to happen at all with no competition for 3 weeks. This will do $1B, there's more than enough negativity surrounding this without pretending it isn't at least going to do well financially.

 

[kmag]

70+% user score on BvS. Critics hate it. Public likes it.

The RT user score is pretty bullshit, it was sitting at some ridiculous number of votes before even the early release.

 

[gamz]

Listen Batman meeting Superman was always going to do well financially, but when its getting the reviews its getting, do you think people will be more or less willing to shell out money for an Aquaman or a Cyborg?

That's the shit that will make WB start getting antsy.

Aquman has James Wan at the helm tho.

 

[E the Shaggy]

Is there one person who actually thinks Cyborg is getting his on solo movie? I sure don't. I've thought since the beginning that his film would be turned into a Titans movie.


This movie needs to do at least 100 million next weekend.

Its confirmed by WB right now, this can always change of course.

 

[TheSlySoul]

The RT user score is pretty bullshit, it was sitting at some ridiculous number of votes before even the early release.

It is also really easy to manipulate scores, since PSVR is sitting on a low rating and it is not even out.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I thought it was on the lower end for the Chinese BO?

I thought China was treating it decently.

K-Swiss, where you at?

This movie needs to do at least 100 million next weekend.

There is no way that happens. It's about as likely as spontaneous standing ovations at your local multiplex.

 

[suaveric]

Is there one person who actually thinks Cyborg is getting his on solo movie? I sure don't. I've thought since the beginning that his film would be turned into a Titans movie.


This movie needs to do at least 100 million next weekend.

There's no way it does over 100 next weekend. That would be an insane hold for any movie, let alone one that's getting this reception.

 

[gamz]

I thought it was on the lower end for the Chinese BO?

No, it's doing good for a SH flick in China. I don't think any of them do as well as Transformers of the Fast series.

Edit: As of yesterday it was at 22M. Well know more in about an hour or so about yesterdays foreign haul.

 

[kswiston]

I thought China was treating it decently.

K-Swiss, where you at?

Opening day was over-estimated, and Saturday legs in China have been shit, so not as good as things looked two days ago.

$37.8M after two days. Probably $50M or so for the weekend.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Those over at BOT are saying BvS's weekend in China will be around $55M, lower than expectations due to a weak Saturday increase. $120M sounds like it'll end up being the ceiling over there.

Opening day was over-estimated, and Saturday legs in China have been shit, so not as good as things looked two days ago.

$37.8M after two days. Probably $50M or so for the weekend.

Wow. Are you thinking right around $100M for the total?

 

[kswiston]

Those over at BOT are saying BvS's weekend in China will be around $55M, lower than expectations due to a weak Saturday increase. $120M sounds like it'll end up being the ceiling over there.

$100-110M seems more likely.

Way up from the ~$60M that MoS and TDKR did, but nothing special given the market growth. Basically Ant-man is as big as BvS to the Chinese.

 

[Ridley327]

$100-110M seems more likely.

Way up from the ~$60M that MoS and TDKR did, but nothing special given the market growth. Basically Ant-man is as big as BvS to the Chinese.

If irony were strawberries, etc.

 

[kswiston]

Those over at BOT are saying BvS's weekend in China will be around $55M, lower than expectations due to a weak Saturday increase. $120M sounds like it'll end up being the ceiling over there.

Wow. Are you thinking right around $100M for the total?

You are probably right with $55M for the weekend. $50M is too low given $22M for Sat.

Given the user ratings there though, I think $120M will be tough. Barely higher than Star Wars' 2-day opening over 3 days with similar userscores doesn't spell legs to me.

 

[gamz]

$100-110M seems more likely.

Way up from the ~$60M that MoS and TDKR did, but nothing special given the market growth. Basically Ant-man is as big as BvS to the Chinese.

What were the est to begin with?

 

[Dash_Riprock]

$100-110M seems more likely.

Way up from the ~$60M that MoS and TDKR did, but nothing special given the market growth. Basically Ant-man is as big as BvS to the Chinese.

Guess BvS is a flavor of the week in China...

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

You are probably right with $55M for the weekend. $50M is too low given $22M for Sat.

Given the user ratings there though, I think $120M will be tough. Barely higher than Star Wars' 2-day opening over 3 days with similar userscores doesn't spell legs to me.

Looking at the way Spectre performed, it would be a struggle to $110M with that kind of weekend. It's having huge openings in Europe and Latin America, but if doesn't top $380M in the US, the $1B target is not going to be easy.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at WB today.

 

[kswiston]

What were the est to begin with?

Most were expecting $65-70M for the weekend from early presales and general audience awareness.

But audiences are mixed at best on the final result. Same situation we had with the Force Awakens in China.

 

[Caderfix]

I was interested in the movie, but then I decided to wait, as Superman is the most boring and bullshit superhero ever. After seeing the reviews and hearing what people said about it, I won't go at all.

 

[kswiston]

Looking at the way Spectre performed, it would be a struggle to $110M with that kind of weekend. It's having huge openings in Europe and Latin America, but if doesn't top $380M in the US, the $1B target is not going to be easy.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at WB today.

I don't expect EU/Latin American holds to be all that special either. This film needs $400M worldwide this weekend to have a decent shot at $1B.

 

[vareon]

I'll want it to financially fail for you.

I want good movies to succeed, not all movies. That way we get better movies.

Sure, whatever makes you happy.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Guess BvS is a flavor of the week in China...

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice/

Not sure if it's been mentioned, but I didn't realize the fan score is 73 percent. Not that it matters, but I'm surprised it's that high. Wonder if other poorly rated comic book movies also follow that pattern.

.....bots

 

[kswiston]

Some actually interesting stats from Cinemascore via Deadline: http://deadline.com/2016/03/batman-v-superman-opening-weekend-box-office-records-1201726300/

Of those demos giving the film a higher grade: Under 18 at 22% gave it an A- while under 25 at 40% gave BvS a B+.

Looks like the under 25 crowd was actually larger than typical for a comic film. Predictably, younger audiences also liked the film more.

CinemaScore reports is that people came out this weekend because they wanted to see a Batman film at 62%. This more than whoever was playing Batman or Superman: Ben Affleck and Henry Cavill pulled in 21% of the audience, while Gal Gadot accounted for 14% (which is pretty good for a fresh face).

People want Batman

 

[AdventureRacing]

Some actually interesting stats from Cinemascore via Deadline: http://deadline.com/2016/03/batman-v-superman-opening-weekend-box-office-records-1201726300/

Looks like the under 25 crowd was actually larger than typical for a comic film. Predictably, younger audiences also liked the film more.

People want Batman

I still wish they had just kept them separate. I think a lone batman movie could have been just as big as BvS (in fact I think it would have done better) whilst allowing them to build on MoS. I know it works wonders for marvel but I'm not convinced that these big team ups are the only way to go. I guess the idea is to leverage the popularity of batman and superman for some of the less popular characters like the flash. I feel they rushed into that.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

People want Batman

When people compare the different strategies taken to set up their cinematic universe, they will (correctly) malign WB for not going the same route as Disney with solo films before the big crossover films. At the very least, as that polling indicates, they absolutely should have done a solo Batman film first, which would have undoubtedly been massive on its own.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

The question of "rushing" only really factors in if you feel like you need to stop down and explain why things are the way they are.

Which you absolutely do not have to do. Superheroes have been a thing for about 80 years now. Audiences are more than able to process a self-contained story that begins in a fictional world where nobody has to explain what superheroes are and how they could exist. They can just be. Hell, the Incredibles is proof enough of that.

There absolutely can be a movie where Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman are all known quantities with fully formed personalities from second one after the opening credits. But studios and their creatives seem to think such a notion is amazingly risky, even though they're exploiting the brand precisely because of that cultural familiarity in the first place.

It's fuckin' weird.

 

[ramparter]

Like amazing Spider-Man 2, you kinda have to see this regardless of reviews. Batman and supes and Wonder Woman all on the same screen come on

I found BvS much better than ASM2. I even liked it more than Ultron. And no I dont think its a good movie. It has some really stupid choices but I enjoyed it. Feels like someone mixed a good film with a bad film.

 

[Apathy]

The question of "rushing" only really factors in if you feel like you need to stop down and explain why things are the way they are.

Which you absolutely do not have to do. Superheroes have been a thing for about 80 years now. Audiences are more than able to process a self-contained story that begins in a fictional world where nobody has to explain what superheroes are and how they could exist. They can just be. Hell, the Incredibles is proof enough of that.

There absolutely can be a movie where Superman and Batman and Wonder Woman are all known quantities with fully formed personalities from second one after the opening credits. But studios and their creatives seem to think such a notion is amazingly risky, even though they're exploiting the brand precisely because of that cultural familiarity in the first place.

It's fuckin' weird.

Superman and Batman for sure, they are universally known and so are their origins and personalities. I don't think any other hero gets away with that (maybe spiderman). WW does not have familiarity outside comic fans, even with her show in the 70's.

 

[Diprosalic]

very anecdotal evidence but theaters in mainland europe are quite empty, very far from sold out. usually you can't get a good seat on saturday afternoon for a big movie in its first week but there are lots. i only checked 15 theaters tho.

 

[Nipo]

Like amazing Spider-Man 2, you kinda have to see this regardless of reviews. Batman and supes and Wonder Woman all on the same screen come on

See it? Totally. Pay $~25 for two people? Nah, I'll buy the definitive edition UHD blu-ray at Christmas for less than that

 

[CloudyTuba]

I dont think it was ever in doubt that this movie would make a lot of money opening weekend, regardless of reviews. The excitement surrounding the characters involved is going to do a lot of carrying.

But no matter how much money it makes this weekend, the brand has been dragged through the dirt and WB is not going to be happy about that. Amazing Spider-Man 2 made some good money too, but look how that turned out anyway.
It'll probably have some pretty harsh drops, too.

 

[mugurumakensei]

.....bots

The CinemaScore hints that people actually really did like it. Anecdotally, most people I know who have seen it liked it.

 

[kswiston]

It's fuckin' weird.

Especially with Batman. How many times have we seen Martha's pearls hit the ground by now? My memory isn't the greatest for films I haven't seen in decades, but I am pretty sure that scene has at least been in Batman 89, Batman Forever, Batman Begins, and now BvS. We don't need to recap on Batman's parents being shot every time we get a new director. People know what happened to Batman.

 

[-tetsuo-]

Transformer 4 just had China in it and made all of the Chinese nationalist flock over to the box office to watch it just because it had China.

What about the other 2 sequels?

 

[Can Crusher]

Of note, BvS joins Twilight: Breaking Dawn 2 ($138.1M opening, B+ CinemaScore, 24% rotten) and Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen ($109M opening, B+ CinemaScore, 19% rotten).

That company.

 

[Darkangel]

I'm in Canada and tried to go last night but it was completely sold out.

 

[cebri.one]

What was the budget for this film?