MacGurcules
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Man, Old Viscosity is such a great name for an imperial stout.
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PhoncipleBone
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eyeball_kid
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Okay, after talking so much about RIS I opened the Old Rasputin Barrel Aged XIX. Wow. Now this is a Russian Imperial Stout fit for a czar. Intoxicating nose. Chewy malt, that sizzle of caramelized sugar, a light layer of cherry, vanilla, and charred oak, and some generous bourbon aromas on top. Extremely well-balanced and hides the booze well. All with a smooth, silky texture. Damn.
"Never say die", but more like never want this bottle to end.
"Never say die", but more like never want this bottle to end.
ramoisdead
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Yes it's one of my favorite stouts. I've seen it hit shelves so I'm definitely going to pick up a 6-pack. However, I first have to track down a Barrel-Aged Ten Fidy.
Picked me up a Founder's BB and yes I agree, one of the best Barley Wine beers I can actually drink.
Can someone explain the difference between Wee Heavy's, Old Ales, and Barleywines, they often hit the same notes for me. Wee Heavy's just seem a bit more fruity maybe?
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Just discovered these beer reviewers they seem really chill - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPjCPznXa6o0_XGK7Yb5b7A
eyeball_kid
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Honestly I don't think there's any real difference between Old Ale and Barleywines historically. I read that an Old Ale is basically any ale that is aged, and the Barleywines tend to be higher-alcohol versions. I tend to find the modern Barleywines to be a bit sweeter than Old Ales, but maybe that's just the ones I've had. I've never heard of a Wee Heavy.
I think Wee Heavy is just another name for Scotch Ale. I don't drink too many Old Ales or Barleywines but I do like Scotch Ales. Drinking something like Curmudgeon Ale has some similarities to Dirty Bastard or Backwoods Bastards but I tend to get more of the dark fruit, caramel and toffee flavors from a Scotch Ale. Hard to explain but a big Barleywine will often have that overall sweetness from the higher abv, for me at least.
MacGurcules
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A Wee Heavy is basically just an imperial Scotch Ale. You'll get some of that coppery caramel, toffee, and sometimes some smoky phenolics that are typical of Scotch ales, but in an overall bigger and sweeter beer.
Old ale and barleywine can have a lot of overlap.
The defining trait of a barleywine will be its strength. You'll get a depth of malt and typically a balanced degree of bitterness but they should come with a notable amount of alcohol and commensurately full body. A barleywine set aside to age a while could easily be described as an old ale.
Historically, old ale is just a beer that's meant to be put down to age. They could be in a wide range of styles and strengths. Nowadays, they tend towards the strong and malty side and many could credibly be described as barleywines. Typically, you'll find some light oxidative notes in an old ale, like a port wine. Those are considered appropriate for the style and tend to be the major differentiator between an old ale and a barleywine.
EDIT: I like to refer to the BJCP style guidelines. It's pretty comprehensive, at least so far as this kind of thing can be.
distantmantra
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Which is why American Barleywine and English Barleywine are good descriptors. Fremont's Brew 1000 is more English, and phenomenal.
distantmantra
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Yep. Brew 2000 is in the works, though.
Just ordered my first brewing kit for a simple pale ale extract to get my feet wet, pretty excited.
Link to kit:https://www.midwestsupplies.com/simply-beer-brewing-starter-kit
My buddy is lending me a 5 gallon kettle for the boil.
Link to kit:https://www.midwestsupplies.com/simply-beer-brewing-starter-kit
My buddy is lending me a 5 gallon kettle for the boil.
MacGurcules
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Nice. I just brewed an oatmeal stout last night. If I could recommend something: a five gallon kettle is a decent starting place for extract brewing, but if you want to eventually transition to all grain brewing, an eight or ten gallon kettle would make that transition easier. Though, a five gallon kettle would certainly suffice for a three or four gallon all grain batch.
sharkmuncher
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I would recommend against using the cleanser that comes in the kit as a sanitizer. It's fine to clean with, but I'd at least use bleach (4mL/L), or better yet, if your buddy brews, I'm sure they have some StarSan you could borrow.
Enjoy the brewing and there are a few of us here more than able to answer questions, as well as any of the other major online brew communities.
ramoisdead
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Boy do I love this time of year.
sharkmuncher
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Looks like Avery is killing off some beers.
On the chopping block are all 3 demons, Salvation, Kaiser and Czar. Maharaja, Hog Heaven and The Reverand are being moved to a "new format" (I'm assuming canned). I'm personally sad to see them go as they were my gateway into big craft beers, but I'm hoping whatever they have in store as their replacements are as good or better.
Adam Avery & Westword said:
On the chopping block are all 3 demons, Salvation, Kaiser and Czar. Maharaja, Hog Heaven and The Reverand are being moved to a "new format" (I'm assuming canned). I'm personally sad to see them go as they were my gateway into big craft beers, but I'm hoping whatever they have in store as their replacements are as good or better.
theSlacker
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Damn. I really loved the demons, as well as Kaiser and Czar. The ones being kept and moved to a "new format" are ones I don't really care for.
eyeball_kid
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That Even More Jesus is pretty tasty, as are most EvilTwin brews.
PhoncipleBone
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Enjoying that now. The cans are a godsend, and so much cheaper.
eyeball_kid
Member
I'm having a Lagunitas Russian Imperial Stout. 6 bucks for a 1 pint 6oz bottle at Whole Foods, hard to beat that. Very bitter for a RIS, but really smooth mouthfeel.
Thanks guys! My buddy who just got a job at a brewery is going to walk me through the process of doing my first brew once the kit comes in. Good looks on the cleaner, from what I'm reading cleaning and sanitation are super important and different parts of the brewing process. Now, to start collecting bottles....
MacGurcules
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Sounds like you're in good hands.
And yeah, you'll quickly find that like 75% of good brewing comes down to just good cleaning. A proper and thorough sanitary regimen will eliminate a great deal of the potential beginner stumbling blocks.
PhoncipleBone
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Great for the price, I agree.
Ole Reliable for me is Founders Imperial Stout. I think there are still like 6 cases of the Dec 2014 bottled ones at the local store, which I am not complaining about. $12 for a four pack of that, and thick and heavy on the pour.
Jopen Thomas & Kenau Quadrupel: The majority of people posting here are Yanks I gather, so a Dutch microbrew (although from an established brewery) might be rather hard to get for most of you, but for those outside of the States or anyone who happens to be somewhere near the Netherlands, this is something to definitely seek out. It's their version of an aged Quadruple, with some nice vanilla flavors. Nothing subtle about this beer, but nicely balanced - nice feat, great stuff. ⋆⋆⋆⋆/⋆⋆⋆⋆⋆
EternalNewbie
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Anyone else thinking about sitting out Bourbon County Black Friday this year? Limits here in and around Philly seem ridiculous since they supposedly ended up with a lot less of the stuff for this release. Lots of 1 bottle/per person of regular and barleywine and that's it, and that'll be after lining up at the asscrack of dawn. Coffee will be a rare sight as usual of course so I haven't even bothered with that for a couple years.
It's one of my favorite beers ever but it's just been more of a hassle to get any each year. I seriously doubt the infection issues will prevent the masses from turning up.
It's one of my favorite beers ever but it's just been more of a hassle to get any each year. I seriously doubt the infection issues will prevent the masses from turning up.
MacGurcules
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I'm gonna hit up my regular stop. They tend to do pretty well in keeping things fair. Not sure if I'll bother with any others.
Though I wonder if volume is going to suffer after all of the infections last year.
The only time I was able to buy some of the Bourbon County beers was when a local World of Beer was doing an event. No idea if Florida gets these, and if they do I don't think it's with any great supply, and not anything rare. I might call a Total Wine or two tomorrow and ask if they will have some Friday morning. Like Eternal said it will probably 1 per person down here if they have it.
Mitch
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Had some pretty phenomenal beers this past weekend at Hoof Hearted's Yann Bandaña can release.
Very Green
Mexican Cake
Curiosity 27
Everybody Wants Some! Eureka
Pulp
World Wide Stout
Howling Moon w/ Coconut
Mosaic IPA
Pork Chop Sandwiches
Jackie O's Bourbon Barrel Vanilla Black Maple
Clearly Everybody Wants Some
Big Sound BBA
Vandelay Industries
Never Mind
Florida Room
Raspberry Berliner
White Oak Jai Alai
Walnut Apple Cinnamon Brown
It was cold as hell, though. Thankfully there were a couple bonfires going while we waited.
Very Green
Mexican Cake
Curiosity 27
Everybody Wants Some! Eureka
Pulp
World Wide Stout
Howling Moon w/ Coconut
Mosaic IPA
Pork Chop Sandwiches
Jackie O's Bourbon Barrel Vanilla Black Maple
Clearly Everybody Wants Some
Big Sound BBA
Vandelay Industries
Never Mind
Florida Room
Raspberry Berliner
White Oak Jai Alai
Walnut Apple Cinnamon Brown
It was cold as hell, though. Thankfully there were a couple bonfires going while we waited.
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Ohio raised the ABV limit this year and we ain't getting shit. Still need to send enough out West for all the local Whole Foods to have 30 case stacks of it sitting around for a month. Northern KY doesn't get much so the release is a total shit-show. First year I might not buy any since it's been available around here ('06?). Goose even came in here earlier in the month for a Migration Week featuring Bourbon County and others. Still not getting any.
stouts.
Baconsaurus Rex
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How does it compare to the quads you can buy at the supermarket? Rochefort, La Trappe and St. Bernardus Abt 12 primarily.
not as good or available, but hopefully that doesnt deter him from patronizing everyone
Unless they are limiting who they ship to I'm not worried about it. Not going to show up early anywhere eirher way.
distantmantra
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I'm in Nebraska for Thanksgiving, don't really give a shit about BCBS to wait in line for it. Got a bunch of Holy Mountain stuff and BBomb to look forward to at home.
I like it enough to try to get some; i still owe Seattle area gaffers a few bottles for my pillaging of Fred Meyer.
distantmantra
Member
Hosting Thanksgiving at my in-laws. I was put in charge of picking out the beer.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
What is that fresh hop bullshit doing there?
Yum yum yum
distantmantra
Member
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Almost got a growler of Harvest Ale this afternoon, but realized I wouldn't have any fridge space for it. Of course, that would mean I should just drink it all in one sitting.
distantmantra
Member
Also got Brau Brothers' fresh hop. That was nice to see.
eyeball_kid
Member
What. I love fresh-hopped beers, especially on tap.
I lucked out today. My go-to beer store had a couple of Michigan breweries y'all were talking about. I picked up the Bell's Expedition Stout and the Founder's Porter. I also grabbed a Ballast Point limited release Coconut Victory At Sea imperial stout. It's going to be a stout kind of holiday.
distantmantra
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He's teasing me. I'm a fresh hop fanatic who preaches the good word of the Yakima Valley to all.
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