davidwhangchoi
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man the boss yelling @ Jimmy was disheartening.
but what a cliffhanger at the end =)
Gus would be awesome
but what a cliffhanger at the end =)
Gus would be awesome
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Better Call Saul S2 |OT| The Truth Is Just A Point Of View - Mondays 10/9c
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Holy shit that promo yo. So hype.
BlackGhost
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Boooooo chuck!
Cya guys next week
Cya guys next week
2 times, a gun and the pig.
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Brainfreeze
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Can anyone explain how the bus scene at the start qualities as solicitation?
PantherLotus
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Many will dismiss this as a slow moving episode (Sepinwall, for example), but these kinds of board-setting episodes are some of the underrated ones that make the most difference in the long run.
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Sepinwall is kind of a tool IMO. Anyway the avclub review explains why this show is great. Nothing we haven't said here but it's true.
Read it all http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/better-call-sauls-showmanship-has-one-simple-secre-232958
I'd say the one thing of note from the Sepinwall review:
"Ice Station Zebra, the movie Kim makes Jimmy watch, will have a big enough impact on it that he'll name one of his holding companies after it in the Saul Goodman years."
That's a neat callback.
"Ice Station Zebra, the movie Kim makes Jimmy watch, will have a big enough impact on it that he'll name one of his holding companies after it in the Saul Goodman years."
That's a neat callback.
From what I understood from the information presented in the episode, lawyers apparently aren't allowed to go talk to clients in person to try to get them to hire them. While he was technically only speaking to the one woman who returned the mailer, he was very deliberately doing it within earshot of the other residents.
EDIT: Yeah, according to the American Bar Association's rules for solicitation of clients:
So that's why the mailers that were sent out were ok, but Jimmy's bus stunt was questionable.
Now that I read that over, though, it makes me wonder what Jimmy was doing in the first season (before all the Sandpiper fraud was even discovered) would violate that rule. He was going around the nursing home, handing out business cards to people. While it wasn't for a specific case, he was still soliciting clients.
tearsintherain
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Hahaha, if you call the phone number in the ad it sounds legit, asks if you are a resident of Sandpiper and tells you that you may be eligible to participate in a class action lawsuit and to leave your name and number. Not Jimmy's voice unfortunately, don't think its anyone from the show. The phone number is 505-242-7700
And yeah, I was dreading and excited at the shadowy figure at the end, thought it might be Gustavo Fring with all the chicken coops or whatever around. "Hi Mike, I am really passionate about fried chicken and I want you in on the ground floor. We also sell drugs."
Why didn't Mike just tell his daughter in law he was outside the house all night and what she heard was newspapers? She'd get pissed for not listening to him?
And yeah, I was dreading and excited at the shadowy figure at the end, thought it might be Gustavo Fring with all the chicken coops or whatever around. "Hi Mike, I am really passionate about fried chicken and I want you in on the ground floor. We also sell drugs."
Why didn't Mike just tell his daughter in law he was outside the house all night and what she heard was newspapers? She'd get pissed for not listening to him?
March of the Crabs
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This was a great episode. This show is just simply really fucking good overall. I never want it to end each week.
Grinchy
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I think he can see she's just losing it a little bit. The house reminds her of her dead husband and the trouble he was getting himself into. She's just scared all the time and the only solution Mike can think of is to just get her into a new house. It doesn't matter that the threat isn't actually real.
Jimmy even mentions it when he has his discussion with Kim after the meeting, that what he was doing when he was building the case with Chuck was indeed solicitation and it didn't bother the latter at the time. It just shows that Chuck is out to get him and will look for any opportunity to make him look bad.
Wow, I didn't even notice that. Awesome touch by the director.
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Damn Jimmy, couldn't have waited until next week when Stan Sitwell got back to the office?
PepperedHam
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The dude knew he had a hit and he knew there was a shot it wouldn't get approved, this guy knows what works and he couldn't let what he had go to waste. Although his boss liked the idea for a commercial, it's obvious the partners are more in favor of those boring lawyer ads that I still see on TV even IRL.
- Vulture: Better Call Saul Recap: Bingo!
- NYTimes: Better Call Saul Recap: Season 2, Episode 3: Lone Star State of Mind.
- Yahoo: 'Better Call Saul' Postmortem: Does Jonathan Banks Think Mike's Daughter-in-Law Is Playing Him?
- Wrap: Better Call Sauls Jonathan Banks Sums Up Rest of Season 2 With One Word: Violence.
- NYTimes: Better Call Saul Recap: Season 2, Episode 3: Lone Star State of Mind.
- Yahoo: 'Better Call Saul' Postmortem: Does Jonathan Banks Think Mike's Daughter-in-Law Is Playing Him?
- Wrap: Better Call Sauls Jonathan Banks Sums Up Rest of Season 2 With One Word: Violence.
He was back in the office. He chickened out before he went in. I guess he thought he would reject it, and was better off trying to do it and say sorry later, assuming success.
RatskyWatsky
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I love slower paced episodes like the one we got tonight. It makes all the big stuff that comes after all the more powerful.
What is the significance of the pig, again?
What is the significance of the pig, again?
Gus coming on seems way too early. Hoping for his appearance to be a season cliffhanger
Didn't Mike use it to cover the eye-peice on the door before he killed some guy?
Didn't Mike use it to cover the eye-peice on the door before he killed some guy?
Cliff Main is reasonable, I mean he really should've had that vetted by the partners before airing it. But blame Chuck. #fuckchuck, he pretty much goes to the meetings to goad Jimmy into being his worst, and Jimmy continually falls for it, and Chuck knows that.
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Pretty soon Chuck won't have to worry about it anymore, once Jimmy gets fired or disbarred, whichever comes first.
Jimmy's unwillingness to take others advice on ethics is as much a snub to Kim, Howard, and Clifford who all stuck their neck out for Jimmy. Especially Kim, she really put her career advancement at HHM at risk by going to bat for Jimmy in a big way.
Chuck was right. Jimmy isn't cut out for working at a big law firm. And Jimmy's kind of an ass for not taking Kim's advice to straighten up and fly right, considering how much she has riding on it.
newtypepilot
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another great episode.
Jimmy did fuck up by airing the ad without Cliff's approval. Yeah, he assumed he wouldn't get the green light, but it was wrong to air it without permission. It's showing Jimmy's inexperience working in a big firm. Also, where did they find that flat screen 4:3 TV in Jimmy's apartment?
I have a feeling that Mike's daughter-in-law is suffering from some sort of PTSD. Some people thinking she's manipulating Mike into giving her more money, but I don't think she's in any serious financial troubles. I think the fact she's still living in that house reminds her of her husband, and knowing how he died, she always paranoid that someone is trying to go after her. She probably still resents Mike on some level because he did indirectly cause his death, so it explains her behavior towards Mike.
I'm also glad it's not Gus at the end. They even shot it in a way to troll the viewers lol
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Jimmy did fuck up by airing the ad without Cliff's approval. Yeah, he assumed he wouldn't get the green light, but it was wrong to air it without permission. It's showing Jimmy's inexperience working in a big firm. Also, where did they find that flat screen 4:3 TV in Jimmy's apartment?
I have a feeling that Mike's daughter-in-law is suffering from some sort of PTSD. Some people thinking she's manipulating Mike into giving her more money, but I don't think she's in any serious financial troubles. I think the fact she's still living in that house reminds her of her husband, and knowing how he died, she always paranoid that someone is trying to go after her. She probably still resents Mike on some level because he did indirectly cause his death, so it explains her behavior towards Mike.
I'm also glad it's not Gus at the end. They even shot it in a way to troll the viewers lol
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8BitsAtATime
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I think Jimmy is trying to screw everyone right now. He has pretty much been told he's not good enough and has tried to tell everyone that he knows what he's doing but they don't believe him. He just wants to help people so it's 'S'all good, man.
Yeah he doesn't do things the "right way" but you can tell he just wants to help no matter what the cost is.
I have a feeling Kim is trying to play him in someway.....I don't know how but I don't trust her.
Breaking Bad starts in like 2006 or something IIRC? So it makes quite a bit of sense a flatscreen 4:3 is like high end shit at the time of BCS.
Grinchy
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Chuck is definitely only the "bad guy" because we like Jimmy. Chuck is actually completely right. He knows his brother's slippery ways and he has a reason to want to protect the firm and this case. If Jimmy is really doing exactly what Chuck assumes Jimmy is doing (and he is) then the whole firm can be hurt by it.
Everyone else sees Jimmy as something he isn't, but Chuck knows exactly what is going on.
Everyone else sees Jimmy as something he isn't, but Chuck knows exactly what is going on.
Grinchy
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True, but it's like having a brother who is a drug addict. You've seen all the shit and you've bailed him out a million times so you're always going to be skeptical. And he's shown that his skepticism was pretty founded because Jimmy wants to scam more than he wants to genuinely practice law.
firehawk12
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He's basically his own worse enemy, which is kind of why this is all tragic. I mean, we know that he has to burn all his bridges because he changes his name and either bails on his family/friends or is abandoned by them.
I wonder what will happen when we catch up to the Cinnabon-Jimmy though. I almost expect the series to end with him reading a newspaper article about Walt going out in a blaze of gunfire against the Neo Nazis and being pissed that Walt gets all the fame while he's stuck in a dead end life being afraid all the time.
I wonder what will happen when we catch up to the Cinnabon-Jimmy though. I almost expect the series to end with him reading a newspaper article about Walt going out in a blaze of gunfire against the Neo Nazis and being pissed that Walt gets all the fame while he's stuck in a dead end life being afraid all the time.
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