nrvalleytime
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I get the feeling this person will quickly realize how much these games require.
It's an entirely unique experience, and it's tough to think about other experiences while playing.
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Bloodborne Reviews Thread
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I get the feeling this person will quickly realize how much these games require.
It's an entirely unique experience, and it's tough to think about other experiences while playing.
bananafactory
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Nope. I have 100+ hours in Demons Souls and 60 hours in Dark Souls 1.
My body was not even close to ready. 4 hours and I haven't beat the Cleric Beast yet
I felt so cocky strolling in
But now I'm like
QuantumZebra
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Sometimes I wonder what specimens of humanity are writing shit like that, I'm guessing the demographics intersect with goobergate
pharmboy044
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Take it slow and steady. Remember you will get upset with the game but SoulsGAF is always ready to help answer questions or even give a hand.
This is true.
Filthy Casual
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Lmao bananafactory
Ok, sorry about this but I'm resorting to repeating my post from the OT, which is moving too fast to get the answers I so desperately seek:
"Since I have to wait patiently until Friday and as such don't want to read / watch too many reviews and impressions yet, can someone who has has played the game answer the following questions to ease my still weary mind as a Souls fan?
Please spoiler tag any answers you feel might be spoilers, and try to keep specific (late game) spoilers to a minimum overall.
- Briefly ignoring the (more aggressive but, as far as I can gather, great) action-y side of the game (i.e. the melee combat), is Bloodborne's RPG side not in any way weaker compared to the previous Souls games?
Does the (presumed) lack of bows for long range combat, magic spells or miracles, and heavier armor and shields in other words not severely limit the player's ability to pick a unique playing style and role in the game('s narrative)? Or to reiterate once more: how much room for roleplaying and varied combat tactics is there if everyone seems to play as a similarly fast, aggressive hunter class (despite there being actual classes to choose between of course)?
I still fear that Miyazaki has gone too far towards the melee combat side this time for roleplaying to be possible personally, so feel free to put me at ease.
- Are all the weapons of the transforming (and often crude looking) kind and if so, is there enough variety there? Is there enough variety in the defensive weapons as well, such as other things than pistols and blunderbusses? How about the outfits: varied enough to accomodate different looks?
- Are the game's environments really as dark and aesthetically similar to each other (i.e. Victorian and Edwardian England) as the previews made it seem, or do we get to travel to a typical Souls-like variety of environments again?
Cheers gaf, you have a heart of gold!"
"Since I have to wait patiently until Friday and as such don't want to read / watch too many reviews and impressions yet, can someone who has has played the game answer the following questions to ease my still weary mind as a Souls fan?
Please spoiler tag any answers you feel might be spoilers, and try to keep specific (late game) spoilers to a minimum overall.
- Briefly ignoring the (more aggressive but, as far as I can gather, great) action-y side of the game (i.e. the melee combat), is Bloodborne's RPG side not in any way weaker compared to the previous Souls games?
Does the (presumed) lack of bows for long range combat, magic spells or miracles, and heavier armor and shields in other words not severely limit the player's ability to pick a unique playing style and role in the game('s narrative)? Or to reiterate once more: how much room for roleplaying and varied combat tactics is there if everyone seems to play as a similarly fast, aggressive hunter class (despite there being actual classes to choose between of course)?
I still fear that Miyazaki has gone too far towards the melee combat side this time for roleplaying to be possible personally, so feel free to put me at ease.
- Are all the weapons of the transforming (and often crude looking) kind and if so, is there enough variety there? Is there enough variety in the defensive weapons as well, such as other things than pistols and blunderbusses? How about the outfits: varied enough to accomodate different looks?
- Are the game's environments really as dark and aesthetically similar to each other (i.e. Victorian and Edwardian England) as the previews made it seem, or do we get to travel to a typical Souls-like variety of environments again?
Cheers gaf, you have a heart of gold!"
not_so_special
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someone doesnt like the game
bananafactory
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Unpopular opinion time.
I'm genuinely curious why Bloodborne is getting such high praise - a metacritic score on par with Dark Souls. While I love the Dark Souls series, and they are some of the best games I've played, it just feels the same. The core mechanics are the same and overall it's just more Dark Souls, very little has changed. It's similar to people praising Call of Duty every year when very little has changed and they haven't really done anything differently until Advanced Warfare came out where it brought in a nice change of pace.
I just think there is a double standard going on where other games are shit on if they don't reinvent themselves, while we have Bloodborne that has had minimal changes since Demon Souls came out. I know some people will argue against, and tell me, "BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE GUNS!" To an extent sure, but if you deny this is a Dark Souls-esque clone, you are sadly mistaken.
Regardless, I'm going to play this game because I love the Dark Souls games, but it's just been bugging me.
I'm genuinely curious why Bloodborne is getting such high praise - a metacritic score on par with Dark Souls. While I love the Dark Souls series, and they are some of the best games I've played, it just feels the same. The core mechanics are the same and overall it's just more Dark Souls, very little has changed. It's similar to people praising Call of Duty every year when very little has changed and they haven't really done anything differently until Advanced Warfare came out where it brought in a nice change of pace.
I just think there is a double standard going on where other games are shit on if they don't reinvent themselves, while we have Bloodborne that has had minimal changes since Demon Souls came out. I know some people will argue against, and tell me, "BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS, LIKE GUNS!" To an extent sure, but if you deny this is a Dark Souls-esque clone, you are sadly mistaken.
Regardless, I'm going to play this game because I love the Dark Souls games, but it's just been bugging me.
fastford58
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Oh man oh man oh man. I have one more night of work and then 2 days off. Hopefully I can actually find the game at retail.
Newtype-001
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someone doesnt like the game
Yeah. Even I get fed up with constantly killing things in video games. On the other hand. If you don't like to kill things, don't play Bloodborne. It's pretty obvious the type of game it is.
Just remember to vacuum the vents and use a micro fiber cloth to cut through that heavy layer. btw, don't put those paws on the faceplate or you'll be in smudge city.
someone doesnt like the game
lol wtf did he expect, a peacefuly tour through Yharnam?
someone doesnt like the game
Or more so that he doesn't agree with the focus on violence.
On a side note, it is sort of depressing to me that many are clamouring to this notion that the PS4 finally has its first must have title, simply because this game has a 90+ metacritic. Way too much weight is put on reviews and metacritic these days, though I won't be a hypocrite and pretend I'm not pleased the game was received well.
bananafactory
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Have you played it?
It feels very different to me, and a lot of risky changes that payed off. Yes it's cut from the same blueprint but it absolutely feels fresh.
Bathroom-selfie critiques from Twitter>all.
eot
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someone doesnt like the game
That's not allowed, or?
its okay to have a opinion,
I'm not sure if you can compare them man, have fun hunting =)
Hexa
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someone doesnt like the game
That's ok. No one likes him either.
someone doesnt like the game
Its a good point, in the sense that its something to chew on how we just go to the standard of killing everything.
Although I think Bloodborne is great for this- there's no pretense. I much prefer this setup to something like Uncharted, where theres this fiction that the baseline isn't violence, but then the gameplay centers on murdering 1000s of dudes.
someone doesnt like the game
"Vibrant"?
Isn't there a plague in Yharnam, and everything is either dead or dying??
edit: Amazon update: "Your package has been delivered" ...
... Still at work for 3 hours and then need to pick up the kids and take care of them for 3+ hours.
/cry
Probably not
Told my co-worker i skipped ps3 generation so no souls, he just laughed and said wrap my controller in some foam so it doesnt break when i chuck it
someone doesnt like the game
There are tons of games where you don't kill things. Why did he buy a game where that's clearly the entire theme of the game?
maquiladora
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someone doesnt like the game
This is how I feel about Street Fighter. All you can do is fight, and if you don't then someone will beat the shit out of you. Locations from all around the world, characters with diverse backgrounds but no oh, all you can do is fight, fight, fight. How come nobody has critiqued this yet? #violence
Do we? There are literally hundreds of games out there that build on beautiful world's that aren't about killing.
It's like complaining there's too much racing in a car game, I never get people like this you know what game it is from the off.
Lol. What irritates me is Forza, GT and other games of its ilk. So many different countries and environments and all they want me to do is race race race... It is so irritating. Nobody seems to critique this yet? #racing
Acquiescence
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someone doesnt like the game
This has to be a wind up right? He's not being serious.
He's full McIntosh. He's completely serious.
So if i'm correct, you, who have not played the game, are telling people, who have played the game, that 'everything is the same' and "not rating this game lower because everything is the same is double standards!"
Is that right?
Well i'm not going to mock your opinion. Only that you think about the possibility that critical acclaim comes from not revolution of the mechanics, but evolution of the mechanics.
Could it not be, that From Software have managed to cleverly freshen up their previous mechanics, so that it may feel familiar, but with its own spin that makes the experience a new experience entirely?
Dark Souls 1 to Dark Souls 2 is more what your describing.
semiconscious
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you're absolutely right. there're franchises that don't have to reinvent themselves, & there're franchises that're slammed if they don't. it's been this way a while, & i've never understood it, either. because, as a game like bloodborne proves, it obviously all really boils down to which franchises reviewers are simply tired of, personally, rather than the relative value/importance of 'reinventing'...
iow, yeah, it's bullshit
...orthodoxy1095
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He's creating a link that's laughable, that's the problem. Yes. There should be more games without a heavy focus on killing and fighting. But Bloodborne isn't the place to start that critique. It's a poor baseline to begin from.
Really do they? I rarely see outright criticism that there's too much violence in a movie say like Expendables or Fast and the Furious because the reviewers know what they are in for. You calibrate your expectations going in. They may critique that the fights are not choreographed well but only an idiot reviewer would go into a movie like expendables and complain that there was too much violence.
You know violence, good guys killing the bad guys and explosions are kind of the point.
CambriaRising
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someone doesnt like the game
I just do not like this fellow even though I adore the video series he works on.
Aside from some speed difference, what we've played of the early game before we quit out of loading frustration was Dark Souls but this may be because of how we've played Dark Souls in the past. If you played the older games with Magic, I think this game may come as a bit of a surprise and difficult too boot. But if you've been playing the Souls games as gung-ho melee either in Dex or Str with Dual Wield, the game will feel very familiar.
It'd say it's also been easier but in as of so far we've only played up till and past Cleric Beast. On rotation, none of us failed to beat it in one-two tries. (Dodging is waaaaaayy to lax, or it feels like it is.)
Not sure if serious but Bloodborne's combat is very different from the Souls series. You make it sound as if it is copy and paste. The world is different, the gameplay is different and the weapons feel different. Also the praise is because the game does 'Gameplay' very very well. I mean this is the level of gameplay in COD - https://youtu.be/yi1sap39_RY?t=70
It is not shocking that one is receiving such praise and the other is just a snoozefest.
Clear
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Exactly, its like faulting people for failing criticize horror movies for playing on their audience's fears!
Ill-chosen context makes the point moot.
Nope. I have 100+ hours in Demons Souls and 60 hours in Dark Souls 1.
My body was not even close to ready. 4 hours and I haven't beat the Cleric Beast yet
I felt so cocky strolling in
But now I'm like
Lol that's how I feel as well right now. I didn't die until reaching the second boss (I played the demo a while back so I knew most of the area and what to expect against the first boss). The second and third bosses kicked my ass a lot though.
I feel that difficulty wise this game is definitely harsher than the Souls games so far. It takes a while to get bosses that difficult in the Souls games, here you get them almost straight away.
BennyBlanco
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JudgmentJay
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Seems not
What a terrible opinion.
Your run of the mill newspaper review isn't going to mention it, no, but there is an immense amount of ongoing writing and dialogue amongst film critics over the level of violence in movies. You'll see it creep into reviews now and then if the violence is particularly excessive or out of place.
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