Brian Greene's The Fabric of the Cosmos on PBS

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Based on the 2004 book of the same name, with elements from this year's The Hidden Reality.

"The Fabric of the Cosmos," a four-hour series based on the book by renowned physicist and author Brian Greene, takes us to the frontiers of physics to see how scientists are piecing together the most complete picture yet of space, time, and the universe. With each step, audiences will discover that just beneath the surface of our everyday experience lies a world we’d hardly recognize—a startling world far stranger and more wondrous than anyone expected.

Part 1: What Is Space? (November 2nd, 9pm)

Part 2: The Illusion of Time (November 9th)

Part 3: Quantum Leap (November 18th)

Part 4: Universe or Multiverse? (November 22nd)

Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDHOLAACYv0
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You can watch the previous series, 2003's The Elegant Universe (focused on string theory), here.
 
I should watch this. I got the FotC book a year ago and got about a third of the way through it, understanding most of it more than I thought I would, but then gave up once I got to a certain point. Been meaning to pick it up again, it's a really well written book. The doc series should be interesting.
 
I read this book when it came out 8 years ago. I assume they've updated the show to include developments since then? I'd think the book would be kind of dated.
 
Subbing in to remember to come back to this... Will they be putting these online? I also cannot wait for the new cosmos, although I'm a little apprehensive. Sagan's shoes are definitely too big for anyone I know of to fill.
 
He's a surprisingly good teacher too. I expected he would, like many professors, neglect his actual teaching in favor of research of other projects; he was instead quite engaged and helpful.
 
innervision961 said:
Subbing in to remember to come back to this... Will they be putting these online? I also cannot wait for the new cosmos, although I'm a little apprehensive. Sagan's shoes are definitely too big for anyone I know of to fill.
Yes, PBS usually puts episodes up by the next day.
 
Cool. I watched PBS's Elegant Universe a while back and it was very well done. Hopefully this will be the same.
 
Going by the preview it looks like shit. PBS needs to kick it up a notch and learn thing or two from BBC. Greene is cool but everything looks so cheap and tacky, kinda like the shows on History channel these days.

Well at least we have Cosmos 2 coming up.
 
Does anyone here know of any book, or preferably online video or text that Greene talks specifically about the math that leads him and others to believe there might be a multiverse? He brings it up often but I never heard or read of any specific example of what sort of math would lead him to that conclusion.
 
Dash27 said:
Does anyone here know of any book, or preferably online video or text that Greene talks specifically about the math that leads him and others to believe there might be a multiverse? He brings it up often but I never heard or read of any specific example of what sort of math would lead him to that conclusion.

I'm sure you could look the math up, but if you were capable of understanding it you wouldn't be asking people here to find it for you.

Edit: But I guess you could start with Einstein Field Equations which detail how very large, very fast objects interact with each other.

That's only half the story though. This would be just a part of the other half - how very small particles interact with each other. Nobody understands this half.

Dash27 said:
Greene is a popularizer of science, in effect he is able to present the data or equations in more accessible ways via analogy or generalities. I say this not for the majority of people who realize this intuitively, but so that your diminished ability to comprehend stands a chance. So in a way I'm doing for you what Greene does for others. See how that worked out?

My my, somebody has a giant chip on their shoulder. You must be a riot at a party.
 
Simon Belmont said:
I'm sure you could look the math up, but if you were capable of understanding it you wouldn't be asking people here to find it for you.

Greene is a popularizer of science, in effect he is able to present the data or equations in more accessible ways via analogy or generalities. I say this not for the majority of people who realize this intuitively, but so that your diminished ability to comprehend stands a chance. So in a way I'm doing for you what Greene does for others. See how that worked out?
 
Dash27 said:
Does anyone here know of any book, or preferably online video or text that Greene talks specifically about the math that leads him and others to believe there might be a multiverse? He brings it up often but I never heard or read of any specific example of what sort of math would lead him to that conclusion.
This relevant to my interests. String theory is really interesting concept but it is so odd that even after 30 years string theory is not testable. I would love skim through Arxiv papers but there are so freaking many of them that it's kinda pointless. Are there any must read papers on string theory and math behind it?
 
I've heard him offer to go into the math before in an interview with Robert Krulwich for RadioLab, but they never did.
 
Is this gonna be about string theory?

I read The Elegant Universe, but must have missed this one.

Edit:
Ah, glancing through the thread, I gather it is.
 
Cyan said:
Is this gonna be about string theory?

I read The Elegant Universe, but must have missed this one.

Edit:
Ah, glancing through the thread, I gather it is.
Not really, actually. Elegant Universe was his string theory book. Fabric of the Cosmos touches on it at the end, but really its more of a general overview of the last century of physics, from relativity through quantum mechanics.
 
Cyan said:
Is this gonna be about string theory?

I read The Elegant Universe, but must have missed this one.

From the (less than) half of the book I read, it's mostly about quantum mechanics and general relativity. Goes into brane theory towards the end, but it's more or less about what specifically is 'the fabric' of space-time.

Edit: Beat badly.
 
The_Technomancer said:
Not really, actually. Elegant Universe was his string theory book. Fabric of the Cosmos touches on it at the end, but really its more of a general overview of the last century of physics, from relativity through quantum mechanics.
Simon Belmont said:
From the (less than) half of the book I read, it's mostly about quantum mechanics and general relativity. Goes into brane theory towards the end, but it's more or less about what specifically is 'the fabric' of space-time.
Oh, awesome.

I will have to check this out.
 
Simon Belmont said:
Doesn't make the task much easier since first links are asking the same question.
I guess some free refrence manager would be the best way to go. Zotero and RefWorks are free and you can add most common databases into them (arXiv, BMC, EBSCO, PLoS, PubMed, ScienceDirect) but doesn't really help if you don't know what you are looking for.

Edit. And seems this show isn't going to be about stringtheory. /offtopic
 
Neat. The Elegant Universe was excellent, and almost made me a believer of string theory :P. I'll be sure to check this one out.
 
CiSTM said:
Doesn't make the task much easier since first links are asking the same question.
I guess some free refrence manager would be the best way to go. Zotero and RefWorks are free and you can add most common databases into them (arXiv, BMC, EBSCO, PLoS, PubMed, ScienceDirect) but doesn't really help if you don't know what you are looking for.

Edit. And seems this show isn't going to be about stringtheory. /offtopic

Actually if you check the 1st link it has some good stuff. The site doesn't make it plan to follow though.

superstringtheory.com

Make sure you use the next and previous little box on the right. If you just click mathematics then you only get the 1st page telling you what types of math they use. If you click next though they go through and provide some links to some more in depth material.
 
Hey look what I found in my book collection...

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Bought it when I was 14 or 15? I remember Greene really being able to illustrate the wondrous aspects that maths allows us to see that the naked eye cannot. I think the visuals will really translate well to TV.
 
Just listening to the NPR interview. Greene doesn't believe that the neutrino's that were recently measured being faster than light will hold up to further scrutinity. However he would like it to be true for the revolution that it would cause in physics.
 
SCHUEY F1 said:
Just listening to the NPR interview. Greene doesn't believe that the neutrino's that were recently measured being faster than light will not hold up to further scrutinity. However he would like it to be true for the revolution that it would cause in physics.
double-negative....so he does believe it?
 
I won't get to watch it until tomorrow (stacked DVR recordings, so I'm going to record the second airing that happens at 1AM) but man, I really can't wait to watch this! I love Nova/Nova Science Now!
 
Dash27 said:
Does anyone here know of any book, or preferably online video or text that Greene talks specifically about the math that leads him and others to believe there might be a multiverse? He brings it up often but I never heard or read of any specific example of what sort of math would lead him to that conclusion.
There are a few paths to it that I can think of. First, I'll go with General Relativity:

It is in GR that the concept of a black hole becomes possible. The gravitational collapse of a star after its life is done is sometimes strong enough to create spacetime configurations with singularities in them. The gravitational pull of that singularity is, in the parlance of GR, strong enough that all radial geodesics point toward the singularity past a certain hypersurface in spacetime. This hypersurface is called the event horizon of the black hole. Mathematically, this manifests itself through a variety of different coordinatizations of the Schwarzchild solution to the Einstein equations.

There are a few different types of black holes. Contrary to something like, say, a planet, a black hole is a very simple object. You can look up something called a "no-hair theorem", but essentially it says that black holes have no microscopic structure that we are aware of to distinguish them beyond three parameters: mass, angular momentum and charge. The Schwarzchild black hole is an idealization; there are probably no true Schwarzchild black holes because they are virtually guaranteed to have net angular momentum and charge. Black holes with charge correspond to the Reissner Nordstrom solution, black holes that are spinning (angular momentum) correspond to the Kerr solution.

These charged and spinning black holes have some extraordinary properties regarding their event horizons. They have more than one horizon, and this permits the possibility of going inside the outer horizon where all trajectories are inwards, then inside the inner horizon where they are NOT all inwards. It is possible to escape charged and spinning black holes, but there is a catch. Diagrammatically, you'll encounter something called Penrose or conformal diagrams that compactify infinite spacetimes into little squares through something in GR called conformal equivalence. When you draw the diagrams for these black hole spacetimes, you find that when you leave these charged and spinning black holes, you do not return to the spacetime you started with, but rather to another copy of it. In essence, you enter another universe.

Obviously there are a fuckload of details that I am leaving out. You'd have to read half of a textbook on GR to get to this stuff, but the core point is that there are black holes that can theoretically be escaped and when you escape them you end up in other universes. These feed into a concept called a white hole, which you can read about on Wikipedia if you so desire.

Quantum Mechanics:

The source of a multiverse in quantum mechanics is a question of interpretation of how the probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics actually works. This is sometimes called the EPR or measurement paradox. In traditional QM (sometimes called the Copenhagen interpretation), we are taught to think that a quantum system is somehow separated from our "physical" reality by an intermediate object called a wave function or state vector that describes the state of a quantum mechanical system. Mathematically, it lives in something called a Hilbert space, and we define measurement of the object through operating on that state vector with a Hermitian operator with a spectrum of possible outcomes that correspond to physical states and values for the measurement. This measurement results in something called wavefunction collapse, where the quantum state collapses into an eigenstate of the operator with a corresponding eigenvalue.

This is just one convenient interpretation. This leaves a big question of "what happened to all the other states that it could have collapsed into?" In terms of Schrodinger's cat, if we measured him and found him alive, what happened to the possibility that it was dead? The alternative that leads to a multiverse theory is called the many-worlds interpretation, and it answers this question in a way that is actually somewhat satisfying. In this interpretation, all the other outcomes that are precluded when a measurement occurs and our universe is observed to be in precisely one of the possible states, all of the other possible states still happen in other universes. In terms of the cat example, there is one universe where the cat is dead and one where it is alive. Every time a measurement occurs, there is a branching off of universes where all the outcomes happen, and we happen to exist consciously in one of them.

This is a somehow satisfying solution to the paradoxes in my opinion, but also hugely difficult to test and believe to be true. It basically says that there is an infinity of other universes in which every conceivable quantum outcome in every quantum interaction ever has come true. There are an infinite number of states in even very simple quantum states. There are different scales of infinity in the study of pure mathematics, and on those scales, this infinity of universes is pretty fucking huge. There are many guesses that go into this interpretation, and many mechanisms we obviously don't understand and we may never even be able to test.
 
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