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Capcom Is 'Aware' of Dragon's Dogma 2 Frame Rate Issues on PC, Looking Into Fixes
Buggy Loop
Member
No, we don't have those glasses
Everything is more blurry, It's really obvious.
I mean if we drop to console equivalent settings and IQ (DLSS performance? I think even that is still better) then you should never have a problem with performances on PC.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
it's not obvious. It looks the same what are you talking about.No, we don't have those glasses
Everything is more blurry, It's really obvious.
I mean if we drop to console equivalent settings and IQ (DLSS performance? I think even that is still better) then you should never have a problem with performances on PC.
blurry? really obviously blurry?! FROM THIS VIDEO ?! are you joking.
How are you even alive being this picky. I can't see the difference.
I mean, obviously 4k dlss is better than ps5. OBVIOUSLY.
BUT YOU CANT SEE THAT IN THE VIDEO
nah man. You cannot say that
It's the same fucking thing. Keep enlarging that difference like it's your penis haha got you !!!
not to mention, the left one CLEARLY looks like a ps3 game
you trolls
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SolidQ
Member
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mansoor1980
Gold Member
Skifi28
Member
I imagine the game was built with RT on in mind seeing how even the console versions have it.Some of these RT off scenes look like 2011 Skyrim
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
The difference in the first shot looks very obvious but god this game looks like shit.it's not obvious. It looks the same what are you talking about.
blurry? really obviously blurry?! FROM THIS VIDEO ?! are you joking.
How are you even alive being this picky. I can't see the difference.
I mean, obviously 4k dlss is better than ps5. OBVIOUSLY.
BUT YOU CANT SEE THAT IN THE VIDEO
nah man. You cannot say that
It's the same fucking thing. Keep enlarging that difference like it's your penis haha got you !!!
Buggy Loop
Member
it's not obvious. It looks the same what are you talking about.
blurry? really obviously blurry?! FROM THIS VIDEO ?! are you joking.
How are you even alive being this picky. I can't see the difference.
I mean, obviously 4k dlss is better than ps5. OBVIOUSLY.
BUT YOU CANT SEE THAT IN THE VIDEO
That's RT OFF vs ON though ?
PS5 vs PC video I can see the difference almost everywhere in the video
But good for you
You have more tolerance and options.
DanEON
Member
I am confused. Does it have Frame Generation or not?
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
A 4080 is over twice the price of a PS5 and requires a good cpu/build to actually feed it data fast enough not to bottleneck!
And of course people still whinge about performance because in the end, its only as impressive as the software allows it to be.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
No it's not. Stop trolling. If that's obvious to you then you are fooling yourself. Difference is minimal and compression is maximal
yeah got the pic from other vid too. I updated the post.That's RT OFF vs ON though ?
PS5 vs PC video I can see the difference almost everywhere in the video
But good for you
You have more tolerance and options.
It's not tolerance. There is no difference man. What I am telling and showing you.
The only difference in both these vids is rt in the room and one rt scene with fire in town square.
Everything else is not worth it. Surely resolution is not even worth mentioning
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
it's interlaced. Closer to 1080p or about there. maybe less. And that's with rt off.
Doesn't look that bad to be honest considering it's 1440p at max settings which are always "absurd" settings to put, on big cities a 5600x struggles to get 40 FPS on average, but on the open world you can easily get over 60 FPS, which is where the fluidity matters.
Similar case to Starfield it seems, which i ran at around 90 FPS on average, and then on the main city frames could drop up to 40 FPS.
really demanding on cpu
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
This game looks like a PS4 game on every platform, it has no deal running this bad.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Nah, it's pretty blatant. Not sure if it's an AO setting but the right side of that roof isn't even properly shaded on console. For some reason, the shadows are also greyish instead of black. Also looks like the grass is missing self shadows. Second shot, yeah, harder to tell besides the bounce lighting but I think it's because the light on PC is orange and more yellow on PS5.No it's not. Stop trolling. If that's obvious to you then you are fooling yourself. Difference is minimal and compression is maximal
The difference is clear but doesn't completely alter the looks of the game. Looks shit either way.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
Look for them on consoles, cowards
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
dude... the right side of that roof?
are you kidding me? If this is RT, then we can end rt race right now. wow the shadow is 1% darker. like cmon man. have some respect.
In the 2nd pic, the ground is more orange from the light. Yes, I see it. but it's still not even worth mentioning.
You keep insisting on clear but it's really not. it just isn't here.
The real difference will be how the shadows on and off rt translate with HDR.
We can agree that it doesn't look too good regardless. FF16 blows this graphics away if we take in similar setting.
But this is physics, simulated world and so on. And I bet it will look way better running natively than on yt
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I'm saying the difference is obvious, not necessarily massive. For instance, if the grass is green on one side and red on the other, the difference is clear, not necessarily huge.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
PCGamer is showing performance loss when using DLSS.
Although advertised as “DLSS 3”, it doesn’t have Frame Gen according to PCGamer. DLSS 3 is AI upscaling+Frame Gen+Reflex. DLSS 3.5 is RT reconstruction.
RT doesn’t look impactful either.
Although advertised as “DLSS 3”, it doesn’t have Frame Gen according to PCGamer. DLSS 3 is AI upscaling+Frame Gen+Reflex. DLSS 3.5 is RT reconstruction.
RT doesn’t look impactful either.
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
PCGamer is showing performance loss when using DLSS.
Although advertised as “DLSS 3”, it doesn’t have Frame Gen according to PCGamer. DLSS 3 is AI upscaling+Frame Gen+Reflex. DLSS 3.5 is RT reconstruction.
RT doesn’t look impactful either.
Looks like Pure Dark will make some money with a Frame Gen mod.
AngelMuffin
Member
It was a mess on the 360 and I still had a lot of fun with the game. Assuming a similar experience with the sequel.
Setsuna Mudou
Member
We might need a couple more DRM solutions on top of what Capcom already has. I'm sure that will really fix things
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
See this is what pisses me off so much...why the frick don't they address console performance? Elden Ring was the same thing..they address PC and never did the console!
How much longer can console players be treated like shit before they start to finally get Fed up with it?
Kacho
Gold Member
Not sure. Capcom said they were shifting to PC as their main platform a few years ago, so that might be why it gets priority.
Capcom wants PC to be its main platform for games in the future
We're not complaining.
Pop
Member
That 30fps hurts
Mister Wolf
Gold Member
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Oh stop the game blows the original out of the water visually
Bernardougf
Member
Set your game for 60 fps standard on the majority avaible mid hardware .. build from there what you can ... bad perfomance and slow fps is equal to bad optimization and bad choices in the development.
For me in 2024 30 fps games are unacceptable no matter how many npcs and puddle reflexes you throw at my face.
The priority should always be fluid gameplay. Period.
For me in 2024 30 fps games are unacceptable no matter how many npcs and puddle reflexes you throw at my face.
The priority should always be fluid gameplay. Period.
YeulEmeralda
Linux User
True but there's always a chance a modder fixes it on PC. Remember Automata?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I heard from GAF experts that it’s a CPU issue so we will need to wait until 2028 CPUs arrive before it can be fixed
Krappadizzle
Member
By all indications my PC is up to the task, but I just don't feel like dealing with fluctuating framerates. I'll wait, still too much to play to get upset trying to run a game with inconsistent performance.
Kacho
Gold Member
Current CPUs don’t have enough blocks and sectors to handle the load. Advanced AI scripts aren’t cheap.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Now, imagine it on an OLED screen/monitor with their inherent stutter at anything below 60fps.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Guess no one saw frame drops on their test units? How do they slide shit out like this? They knew it had issues.
Responding to a query about frame rate problems from IGN, Capcom said in a statement that performance issues on PC may be linked to the heavy amount of CPU demanded from NPCs in the game.
via IGN
Spyxos
Member
It doesn't look much better on the PC. No matter where you play it, the game won't be pretty.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Not just Denuvo because Capcom probably out their crap DRM on top of Denuvo. And definitely this could have some sort of an impact.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
They aren't going to do this.
nkarafo
Member
It's funny how games don't get significantly better looking the last 5 years or so and despite CPUs/GPUs advancing further, the games run like shit and their requirements continue to climb.
So basically, the better the hardware, the more bloated the code. Because why should i, as a programmer, bother optimizing when i know that modern hardware will probably brute force my shitty code?
So basically, the better the hardware, the more bloated the code. Because why should i, as a programmer, bother optimizing when i know that modern hardware will probably brute force my shitty code?
Guilty_AI
Member
They always remove it after some time
Kacho
Gold Member
It's the softer picture coupled with the ~30 framerate that makes it look like a 360 game. I wonder what the resolution is.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
I don't see it happening.
GL
nkarafo
Member
Is this a new game? Or an older remaster/re-release or something?
It doesn't look like a modern game at all.
Guilty_AI
Member
They removed it even from both of their Monster Hunter games, don't see why this one would be different. Denuvo fees are expensive after all.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
They just patched in more shitty DRM into old games.
Edit: Denuvo might be out but some random crap made by a very suspect outfit will be in. I am done with buying Capcom games on PC for the time being.
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Guilty_AI
Member
You mean that enigma stuff? It was quite shitty of them, but on what i read of it afterwards that drm is basically useless and does nothing. I genuinely think they've been duped. I think they realized that too since they stopped adding it after some time.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
I don’t want random shit from random ass suspect company installed on my PC. That’s a very good way to get yourself hacked.
And yes, I did mean Enigma fiasco.
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