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Career and progression in Forza Motorsport is confirmed to be online-only
Vognerful
Member
GT7 walked so that Forza could run
cash_longfellow
Member
I get it, I just don’t buy always online shit. Never did, never will. I’m saying it’s not a Nagasaki or Hiroshima, because people aren’t willing to take a stand and make it a huge issue for the companies that incorporate it in their games. The Jo big deal comment was supposed to be sarcasm. Sorry about that, I’m a little buzzed and was in 3 threads at once and got crossed up on them lol. I’m with you 100%, it won’t stop until people stop buying it…but I don't think they will, which is bad news for everyone.
Again, a great decision from Microsoft for single players, thanks Phil & Xbox to help me save my money for my cats.
*exasperated*
I told it, Microsoft/Xbox became the worst publisher for single player and physical release.
"No big deal" reaction is enough for them to make it standard once people give up, that's how it starts: inaction and acceptance ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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CoreyFlawless
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Heard no loot boxes. So a plus lol
U n i o n 0015
Member
Again, that's assuming that someone can actually hack it. I can't think of a single live service PC game in the last decade that has actually been preserved for offline use.
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MrTroubleMaker
Member
Dumb move
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Oh I understood what you meant, was just adding to the conversation.
It's things like this that should be a lesson to gamers to not be fantarding all over the place and fanning the flames.
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Kacho
Gold Member
It was dreadful. Probably the most dull sim racing career mode ever. Absolutely zero personality or charm.
GHG
Gold Member
And what serious online racing events will the new FM have? What racing series have they partnered with?
Throwing in iRacing as if it's the same thing as Forza and GT is as disingenuous as it gets. The game is literally an online subscription service.
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Moriarty1889
Member
So the same as GT Sport and GT7 then. Not a fan of having to be online just to play a game but I guess it is what it is. Hopefully ypu can still play offline with the free race modes that Forza has always had. Not so bad if that’s an option. Just don’t want to see the entire game shackled by an internet connection and then lose it all when they decide to delist it like other Forza motorsport games before it. Wish companies would stop pushing these online shite requirements.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Will probably have an arcade mode for when it’s not online like GT7.
U n i o n 0015
Member
Ha, coincidentally GT7's servers are down right now. The same next-gen experience is coming to FM8!
Monad
Member
We don't know anything about the racing events and partnerships yet, but even FM7 had some of them, being a real joke as a race "sim".
Besides, it has been confirmed that safety and driving ranking will be part of the game along with a properly penalty system and realistic race sequence (including qualifying and practice), just like iRacing and GT7 and completely different from previous Forza Motorsport games, so the online focus of the title is much more serious and obvious than ever before.
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Banned
Diablo 4 is a MMO lite, why do people want to play a MMO offline?
MidGenRefresh
*Refreshes biennially
Most of the more notorious console warriors are long banned.
Gamezone
Gold Member
This is BS…the new FF7 Remake Part 2 even explicitly started it will be in 2 discs because it can’t fit on one. No excuse whatsoever to force online. Plus, wtf does a download size have to do with being always online?
Edit - if it “isn't necessarily related to always online”, what the hell does it have to do with the thread? Y’all need to supporting this trash or it’s only going to get worse.
Well, it's confirmed to be always online at this point, so not acceptable.
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93xfan
Banned
The silver lining is that Xbox keeps their servers up for longer and also won’t delete your cloud saves, so any progress made while the servers run won’t disappear.
Still 100% unacceptable though. They both need to commit to taking away that requirement at some point down the road.
Still 100% unacceptable though. They both need to commit to taking away that requirement at some point down the road.
Rac3r
Member
I originally made this thread to speculate whether or not Forza was going to be online-only (the thread was updated after it was confirmed). I used Diablo as an example of another game that has the same box art disclaimer as Forza ("requires internet") to speculate that Forza may not be playable offline (like Diablo).
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Team Andromeda
Member
Its makes me laugh when one of the 1st things people do with their console is hook it up to the internet. A whole lot of fuss about nothing
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
So are we expecting a similar user review scores issue for Forza Motorsport?
Nydius
Member
Another braindead “don’t you guys have internet?” justification for shit tier level always online DRM schemes.
Your low standards are why we all keep getting trash like this.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yep. I just don't get why devs can't implement SP profile mode that doesn't require always online.
Whether GT7 or Forza, you could have an online only MP profile and SP/local profile that can be offline. It can't be that complex.
GHG
Gold Member
"More serious and obvious than ever before" but yet they haven't shown a peep of anything involving online racing despite having had plenty of opportunity to do so.
I'll file it under "I'll believe it when I see it".
Guilty_AI
Member
Because its not about preventing cheating, its about putting a ton of the content, especially cars, behind high progression hurdles and selling in-game currency while at it. Can't have those pesky players enjoying an offline modded save with all the Ferraris and Lambos available to them from the start, need to cash-in on the fomo.
...of course, thats assuming the offline non-carrer mode still needs the content to be unlocked like GT7. If its like Dirt Rally 2 where all content comes unlocked from the start, it would be at least less bothersome.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Honestly, the only reason that Diablo didn't feel the heat is because it was multiplatform.
GT7 saw the wrath by Xbox fans because it was a PlayStation exclusive. Forza will feel the heat from PS fans in retaliation because it is an Xbox exclusive.
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Guilty_AI
Member
Several pages of shills vs reasonable people, much like what GT7 saw. Enough with the self-victimizing crap.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
There is very little noise in the gaming media against Diablos' predatory practices and always-online connection.
Also, that's just one thread. On the other hand, GT 7 has a user score of 2.3 on Metacritic, with 11,000+ negative ratings. Diablo has a user score of 6. Both have a critics score in the high 80s.
There is obviously an element of exclusivity here; there is no doubt about that.
akaFullmetal
Member
It feels like everything that used to be offline is going online these days. Fine today till we run into outages and can't play stuff.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Interesting thread to look back on.
I also wonder if the same games media will write "online DRM" articles like they did for GT7.
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Guilty_AI
Member
The "element of exclusivity" is caused by the fact one game was made by a company known for singleplayer games with a popular racing franchise that had been mainly singleplayer aside from one spin-off entry. The other put the knife in and twisted long ago, and has an already established history of being hated for these reasons. Most players already expected this kind of bullshittery from them. Still didn't stop it from getting 5.2 userscores
So yeah, there's no grand green rat conspiracy here. People hate this shit, period.
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xrnzaaas
Member
Guess what, previous Forza games also had leaderboards & drivatars. And they worked perfectly fine in offline mode, the social options simply weren't available in offline play.
This is bad news, because Forza servers aren't known for their stability, especially in the first days/weeks after launch.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
Well, GT always had progression where you needed to unlock things as you build up your career and that would be fine.
But yeah, MTX ruins everything as usual.
Kvally
Member
I personally don't care that it's online only, since I am always online. However, I know it's not the case for everyone else. There should be an option IMO. Not everyone is a cheater, so why should honest gamers be penalized by forcing online connectivity for campaign progression?
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
Wait... You guys don't have internet? 
Moriarty1889
Member
One can hope. As I had stated before, hopefully it will have the free race option just like the previous titles did. If not then I will not support this installment of the series. Losing the game I paid for when they decide to delist it or kill server support one day is not what I deem pro gamer. They never did this before and I am surprised they are following in the footsteps of GT7 with this online requirement rubbish for career mode. It was never needed before and shouldn’t be now. Turn 10 have literally TURNED A PAGE and gone full retard in this matter.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Moriarty1889
Member
They can and have many times before. Sadly, they have become so greedy and are doing this to lock so much of the progression behind a paywall. It’s quite obvious and sad at the same time. Hopefully enough people stop supporting this rubbish or sooner or later all of gaming will go down this ridiculous path.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I search for it, since I wanted to cause some controversy, sometimes you gotta do it
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Those were the days! I remember when it was contrived due to how good Driveclub looked at the time.
Kacho
Gold Member
Pretty much. People can hand wave the criticism and make excuses, but the bottom line is that it's a shit requirement that doesn't benefit anyone other than the studio. They do this because they want full control and because they want to push MTX/passes.
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