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CD Projekt Red's Franchise & Lore Designer Cian Maher, Is Former Games Journalist Who Wants To Punch Gamers
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Topher
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ftfy
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
It's like playing a story driven MMO. In the beginning for let's say 2 years the world is interesting, great characters and amazingly well paced plot. Regardless if the gameplay is good or not you keep playing to continue reading the story like a great TV series or a book. But then that interesting world starts to become forgotten and rewritten into a shallow husk of it's former self, the characters become flat or fake or the characters you knew have had their appearance and personality altered from how they look to how they sound and to how they act, the story is poorly paced and is inferior to the storywriting in the first 2 years compared to what is being written now. And thus when a game that is being played for it's story and characters has no story anymore and characters so warped from their original vision what happens? You stop playing the game, you stop watching the show and you put down the book.
It's really no different from loving the Restaurant you went to as a 10 year old and the food was amazing, the place was well staffed and the customer service was excellent and you had great experiences with the other people working and eating at the restaurant but now years later you come back and the food is bland, understaffed, customer service abysmal, and every experience is either bitter, constructed and unnatural or miserable. The restaurant has changed and you move on to something else.
Pegasus Actual
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Alyssa I'm on right now... Alyssa play Overwatch with me Alyssa I got a new mic just so you can hear me better Alyssa!
Kilau
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More ragebait
Hey, it’s lore accurate Samwise Gamgee!
mitch1971
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Moriarty1889
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Someone should punch this miserable little cunt and give him a taste of his own medicine. These devs are out of control and so vocal with the hate they spew. Once again, this industry is fucked beyond repair.
Topher
Identifies as young
Where the hell you been, man?
Remember when developers of a game were unknown and they usually just had a single person be the face of the product and they would praise their customers and shill endless positivity to sell the product.
Might be time to muzzle staff again because more often than not they do nothing but harm the brand in the eyes of potential customers.
Then again I do enjoy watching companies burn and the endless drama they bring
Might be time to muzzle staff again because more often than not they do nothing but harm the brand in the eyes of potential customers.
Then again I do enjoy watching companies burn and the endless drama they bring
Pegasus Actual
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
He could love creating games and hate gamers that attack the art form.
I mean you have gamers doxing voice actors and sending death threats to people based on chin size and you are shocked that some working in the industry don't care for these types of gamers or? lol
Dirk Benedict
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It took me awhile to get into it. Let us say, 2 years after it released. I dove in, balls deep up to the esophagus.
Wonderfully packed game. Great loop, great side quests, writing, music... it was an all-round great experience and once I realized I was at the end of all of the content...200+ hours in...I got depressed, lol.
I didn't end up finishing the final battle until after a month. Which, when I loaded TW3 up, I started walking around the world, then finally initiated the final battle.
I regret not getting into it sooner, but I think I would regret not going through it at all. I still have to go through it with the big, new update, on Death March!
I"ve begun a new playthrough a couple of months back, I think I will continue it soon.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Look...all things happen for a reason and I think its best you played it years after release, with a clear perspective and many updates later.
The general Loop I like, like going from town to town killing monsters for money regarding the side quest, but I think that is as much as I liked with Witcher 3. That is still good enough for me tbh
I also like music and still randomly play the OST from time to time.
I didn't care for the story (but I think I hated the story in all 3 games tbh lol)
I hated the gameplay as it felt horrid, but I hated the way the entire RPG system was nerfed.
by the time I was finishing that game, I just wanted to be done with it and I rank it below the first 2.
I'll still buy Witcher 4 and the remake, but not day 1. Anything day 1 from this company is now long dead and its a year or 6 months after release type thing now. I think I like the lore, concept and general Idea of Witcher much more then its execution, I don't know if it does anything the best for me to have it day 1 anymore.
Crystal Winters
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You hate to see it. Chinese, Korean, and some Japanese games are still the way to go it seems.
Hypereides
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I have a feeling, in a few years time, people with this sort of attitude and the associated companies with these hires will become less favourable in the public eye and HR. In a volatile market, such as video games, the last thing you want is causing division, losing potential customers and thereby risk leaving good money in the process.
It might've worked in the last couple of years when very few were aware and pushback was marginal, but things are changing and stuff like this won't go unnoticed or unchallenged so easily anymore.
It might've worked in the last couple of years when very few were aware and pushback was marginal, but things are changing and stuff like this won't go unnoticed or unchallenged so easily anymore.
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Danteyke223
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It's mostly because if there is any pushback from gamers they get labeled as sexist or racist or transphobe. Retards took over the gaming industry and all the smart people got pushed out. It's an industry that's now run be jocks and mentally insane people.
Pandawan
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CDRP also hired Insomniac's ex story co-lead (blue haired body type 2). Looks like this company went all in on DEI
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Wolverine narrative lead leaves Insomniac for CDPR
Marvel’s Wolverine PS5 story lead Mary Kenney has announced her departure from Insomniac Games for CD Projekt RED. Her move comes months after Wolverine lost its art director Aaron Habibipour to CDPR. over / under set at 1.5 for how many men Geralt will kiss on the lips in Witcher 4
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Kilau
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Just busy, nothing special.
Crystal Winters
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CDRP also hired Insomniac's ex story co-lead (blue haired body type 2). Looks like this company went all in on DEI
Wolverine narrative lead leaves Insomniac for CDPR
Marvel’s Wolverine PS5 story lead Mary Kenney has announced her departure from Insomniac Games for CD Projekt RED. Her move comes months after Wolverine lost its art director Aaron Habibipour to CDPR. over / under set at 1.5 for how many men Geralt will kiss on the lips in Witcher 4
I need to start spending less money anyway. Things like this just make the decision easier.
Last Hearth
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It’s not a random political view, it’s not as if people are digging out his opinion on some irrelevant subject like Brexit or abortion. It about his attitude toward the people he is making a product for, he works for a game developer and he hates gamers, you don’t think that is information the potential buyers of his product might want to know.
Denton
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Let's not pretend Eastern Europe doesn't exist shall we?
Crystal Winters
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I am always on the lookout for non-woke rpg and horror games that are on console (PS5 and Switch), but I admit to not having much experience with eastern Europe game devs. can you list me some examples that I can bookmark? Don't say CDPR. Too many things I am noticing about them lately that don't sit right with me.
If I had to guess, I’d say it’s their job to populate and maintain the games wikia
Oberstein
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I miss 2015, and even when Blood & Wine was released, we weren't wasting a lot of time with all this talk of DEI, misguided lore, necessary representations of Californians in a medieval world inspired by a Polish author, etc.
It's time for this madness to stop, and for us to be able to play games for what they are, rather than trying to represent our era at all costs.
I'll wait calmly for its release, and then we'll see.
It's time for this madness to stop, and for us to be able to play games for what they are, rather than trying to represent our era at all costs.
I'll wait calmly for its release, and then we'll see.
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Hugare
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No, it's not relevant
I dont give a damn if the person likes his job or not, or he thinks his customers suck. Me, as a potential customer, only care about the final product, as it should be.
If it's a well done product that I would want to consume, who cares? Do you think CEO's of the companies that make products you consume care about you? Share the same world view as you?
Outrage culture wants you to care, but seriously, it's not relevant
Last Hearth
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Well, it’s relevant to me and most people who are normal and rational.
If I plan to go to a steakhouse, and somebody told me there are serving staff there posting on X about how much they hate non-vegetarians, I’m going to go somewhere else, and so will most normal people.
Hugare
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Well, luckily you arent able to read people's minds, otherwise you wouldn't be able live in society.
Nah, most normal people arent that fragile. If the steakhouse worker is doing a great job, then I dont give a damn if he hates non-vegetarians. As any normal adult would.
Have you seen Miyazaki views of americans? Guess no more Ghibli movies for your, if you are american.
Imagine being this fragile
Effigenius
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Someone with his opinions would curl up in the fetal position when the gamer responds to his punch.
Is this person the writer or the director of The Witcher 4 game? If not, then fuck all of that.
Most of the crap thrown around in this topic is just scaremongering and very half-assed attempts at creating guilt by association.
I'm going to buy The Witcher 4 game, maybe even pre-order it when available, unless there's an actually objective problem with it upon release. Not people throwing mud at walls and seeing what sticks.
Most of the crap thrown around in this topic is just scaremongering and very half-assed attempts at creating guilt by association.
I'm going to buy The Witcher 4 game, maybe even pre-order it when available, unless there's an actually objective problem with it upon release. Not people throwing mud at walls and seeing what sticks.
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Angry_Megalodon
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You are making a false equivalency fallacy. If Miyazaki sacrifices lambs in his apartment I will be personally outraged but his games will remain the same.
The views and fringe opinions of the WRITER of a narrative focused game or movie have a direct impact on its quality. This is not arguable. So, whoever cares for TW lore and story should know that the guy in charge of it is an ex journo with literally ZERO track record in fantasy worldbuilding and whose opinions (believing that established lore doesn't matter) get in the way of making a great game.
Hugare
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I meant Miyazaki from Ghibli studios, not the game designer lol.
And yeah, it's arguable. You have no idea how many media you've consumed from creators that you would call bigot. Seriously. Specially writers.
It's unfortunately something shocking nowadays, but some people know how to be professional and leave their own opinions out of the office.
Again: give them shit when their product suck. You are a customer, so you should care about the product, not about the creator.
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Denton
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Pretty much all Eastern European studios (and I really hope with CDPR included, jury is still out for them) are devoid of the westoid leftist wokester bullshit.
Studios like Warhorse (Kingdom Come Deliverance), GSC (Stalker), 4A Games (Metro), Mundfish (Atomic Heart), Amanita (Creaks), Ice Pick Lodge (Pathologic 2), CBE (Someday You'll Return), Madfinger (Gray Zone Warfare), Wube (Factorio), Frogwares (Sinking City), Astronauts (Witchfire), Flying Wild Hog (Evil West), Starward Industries (The Invincible), Saber (Space Marine 2)....
Hypereides
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Just to add to this; There's also Spiders from France who make various lesser known AA games (Bound by Flame, The Technomancer, Steel rising, Greedfall a.o.) and Streum On studio (EYE Cybermancy, Necromunda: hired gun). Up and coming is Sandfall interactive (Clair Obscur: Expedition 33).
One to watch out for is Rebel wolves. That studio is packing some promising talent.
This and the quoted post is just a "sample" of what you can find coming from Europe.
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Crystal Winters
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Going to write all those down and hope they stay strong, and resist being tainted by "progressives." My main genres are RPGs and Horror. Also, No Gatcha mechanics.
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gunslikewhoa
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You can read the rest here or Watch the video
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Kokoloko85
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I Love Rock 'n' Roll
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Trangerder is an ideology now... Well, time to check what the straight male ideology has done to the world and others...
cinnamonandgravy
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playing the game is the only info i need
Mozzarella
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Witcher 4 is a long time away that im sure gamers will forget about this. lol
BlitzerRadic
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You paying dudes salary... lmao you one of those people
Angry_Megalodon
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You paying dudes salary... lmao you one of those people
You are aware that videogames are sold to customers, right? Devs don't get paid with money that grows on trees.
We are entering Sesame Street territory.