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[MikeM]

Some Zotac 5090s are showing missing ROPs which is impacting performance. See below link for article:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, Performance Loss Confirmed

TechPowerUp has discovered that there are NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards in retail circulation that come with too few render units, which lowers performance. Zotac's GeForce RTX 5090 Solid comes with fewer ROPs than it should—168 are enabled, instead of the 176 that are part of the RTX...

www.techpowerup.com

If you have a 5090 (or any 50 series), verify it with GPU-Z. If true and not a driver bug, massive quality control L.

Imagine paying these absurd prices to find out you are not even getting a fully specced GPU lol

Edit: Does not seem locked to Zotac. Seems to also involve chips from Gigabyte, MSI and others.

 

[TheRedRiders]

ROP's as in rasterisation output units? they're deeply embedded into the silicon design, how on earth do you miss them out? you can't just accidently forget them.

 

[Hudo]

how on earth do you miss them out? you can't just accidently forget them.

Shipped them with FedEx.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Looks like I'm missing some. I enabled ROP generation so problem solved

 

[SolidQ]

There is answer

 

[Radical_3d]

This launch is getting worse all the time!

 

[Ovek]

Lol what a cluster fuck.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Good. "Arrogant" Nvidia needs some burn.

 

[mansoor1980]

those ROPS power his shield

 

[Windle Poons]

Stuck between a rop and a hard place these 5090s...

 

[AFBT88]

God i wish Nvidia wasn't such a market leader. They are making me hate them more and more.

 

[StereoVsn]

ROP's as in rasterisation output units? they're deeply embedded into the silicon design, how on earth do you miss them out? you can't just accidently forget them.

Issues in manufacturing most likely, with defects not caught.

I mean why do proper QC for these cards when suckers will buy them anyway.

 

[Skifi28]

ROP's as in rasterisation output units? they're deeply embedded into the silicon design, how on earth do you miss them out? you can't just accidently forget them.

There's a dowload code in the package for the missing ROPs, so careful not to buy used.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Having to worry after dishing out 3K or something for what should be a no worries premium product is ridiculous. They can charge whatever they want, but if the price doesn't match the expected quality, that's not good.

 

[sertopico]

Maybe it's a ransomware of some sort. Pay them and they will decrypt you ROPs.

 

[Hot5pur]

This is comical and what monopolies look like.
Nvidia has such massive dominance that it doesn't have any f*ks left to give.
More and more we are living in a time where wealthy and powerful entities just don't suffer any significant repercussions for being shitty.

 

[moogman]

ROP's as in rasterisation output units? they're deeply embedded into the silicon design, how on earth do you miss them out? you can't just accidently forget them.

Isn't there a separate slightly nobbled design for China? I'm not sure of the silicon for that, but there might be a mix-up on destination if that has 168 ROPS.

 

[TrebleShot]

Mine was ok (FE)

 

[kittoo]

Isn't there a separate slightly nobbled design for China? I'm not sure of the silicon for that, but there might be a mix-up on destination if that has 168 ROPS.

Thats gimped on a BIOS level. Hardware is same so ROP count shouldnt change.

 

[KungFucius]

Is this restricted to Zotac? Is it possible it is a Board PCB defect that magically just happens to impact the ROPs? I mean all those pins route somewhere.

I was actually considering sucking it up and buying a Zotac because they tend to be the easiest to get.

 

[Physiognomonics]

They were likely deactivated because defective. I am really surprised they are still selling them at the same price. But this is typical of Nvidia and they have done worse than this in the past.

 

[BattleScar]

ROP's as in rasterisation output units? they're deeply embedded into the silicon design, how on earth do you miss them out? you can't just accidently forget them.

Bad yields on a 750mm2 die, and awful quality control to not realise that some of the ROPs had silicon defects in them.

Baring in mind the 5090 is already cut down from the full die, this is shambolic.

 

[MrA]

nvida, we care, and what are you gonna do about it?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

People who decided to stick with their 4000 series are looking better and better.

Those who sold their 4000 series in anticipation of 5000 are looking more and more stupid.

Hopefully this will force some of you FOMO/scalper enabling mutherfuckers to wait for reviews and steady supply.

 

[Danknugz]

shame for all the 40 people who got their hands in a 5090.

 

[Draugoth]

No one here has an RTX 5090

 

[Celcius]

Oof, I'm just feeling better and better about holding onto my RTX 3090 for as long as I can

 

[Danknugz]

Is this restricted to Zotac? Is it possible it is a Board PCB defect that magically just happens to impact the ROPs? I mean all those pins route somewhere.

I was actually considering sucking it up and buying a Zotac because they tend to be the easiest to get.

same, at one point i would have bought any 5090 if i could have but could t even score a lowly zotac, kind of sad.

 

[Senua]

No one here has an RTX 5090

TrebleShot might be the only one

 

[Thabass]

The 5080 may be a worse value, but since buying mine I have had absolutely no problems with mine and it's putting in a ton of work. I think I made the right decision.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Anyone buying the 50 RTX series thinking the are getting a good deal are missing some ROPs too.

 

[TonberrysKnife]

People who decided to stick with their 4000 series are looking better and better.

Those who sold their 4000 series in anticipation of 5000 are looking more and more stupid.

Hopefully this will force some of you FOMO/scalper enabling mutherfuckers to wait for reviews and steady supply.

Yea....I am DEFINITELY sticking with my 4090 after this cluster fuck of a situation now.

 

[Physiognomonics]

Bad yields on a 750mm2 die, and awful quality control to not realise that some of the ROPs had silicon defects in them.

Baring in mind the 5090 is already cut down from the full die, this is shambolic.

I doubt they didn't know about this.

 

[Celcius]

MEGAsizeGPU (@Zed__Wang)

The root cause is the chip. A small batch of GB202 is defective, and the bios can not do anything with this issue.

xcancel.com

Sounds like the only fix is an RMA

 

[poppabk]

Did they check that their Nvidia+ subscription was up to date? 30% of the ROPs and ray tracing are locked without a subscription I thought?

 

[Radical_3d]

I can already imagine how they are at Gamer Nexus:

 

[Drew1440]

God i wish Nvidia wasn't such a market leader. They are making me hate them more and more.

Why? Nothing is stopping you from buying an AMD or Intel GPU.

 

[rm082e]

Jesus - even if you were ready to make a really stupid decision, having to worry about the power connector melting, or getting a unit that's incomplete is just...ugh...

 

[bender]

If you cheeped out and only got scalped for $4,000, you get what you deserve.

 

[analog_future]

No one here has an RTX 5090

I do!

(and mine's fine and has the full 176 ROPs)

 

[MayauMiao]

Thanks 5090 buyers for being the victim beta testers.

 

[Thebonehead]

Some Zotac 5090s are showing missing ROPs which is impacting performance. See below link for article:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Spotted with Missing ROPs, Performance Loss Confirmed

TechPowerUp has discovered that there are NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 graphics cards in retail circulation that come with too few render units, which lowers performance. Zotac's GeForce RTX 5090 Solid comes with fewer ROPs than it should—168 are enabled, instead of the 176 that are part of the RTX...

www.techpowerup.com

If you have a 5090 (or any 50 series), verify it with GPU-Z. If true and not a driver bug, massive quality control L.

Imagine paying these absurd prices to find out you are not even getting a fully specced GPU lol

For reference it's just one card.

Zotac 5090 Solid disabled ROPs

Hey guys. I'm desperate, I have spent such a big amount of money on this piece of hardware and got this. I don't know wtf is going on with my card. Because I couldn't find a problem similar to mine on the Internet, looks like nobody's ever dealt with this before. The story: Have been using this...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[V1LÆM]

No one here has an RTX 5090

I do

All ROPs here

 

[Ulysses 31]

My 5090 FE reports 176!

 

[Unknown Soldier]

They forgot to enable DLSS ROP Generation

Would be funny if some people were sold the 5090's intended for China (5090D) which actually are hardware neutered to comply with US sanctions

 

[Magic Carpet]

My 4090 only reports 64ROPS. I need to return it, can I ship it back in an old 4070 box?

 

[gooner4life_uk]

My 5090 FE reports 176!

No shit, your 5090 FE is from Nvidia not a Zotac partner board with a dodgy chip.

 

[SolidQ]

"small batch"

MSI Suprim

 

[moogman]

For reference it's just one card.

Zotac 5090 Solid disabled ROPs

Hey guys. I'm desperate, I have spent such a big amount of money on this piece of hardware and got this. I don't know wtf is going on with my card. Because I couldn't find a problem similar to mine on the Internet, looks like nobody's ever dealt with this before. The story: Have been using this...

www.techpowerup.com

In the Techpowerup article they tried their own review Zotac card and it had exactly the same issue as reported in their forums. It's also now been seen in MSI and Gigabyte cards, so it's probably one batch rather than one card. Hopefully a very limited problem though.

 

[Kilau]

Gonna be a long day at work waiting to check my FE at home.