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[Felessan]

China market is a double edge sword but it helps. USA market, Euro, and Japan market are still the most important.

China has a bigger market than Japan and EU, close to combined.

 

[ReyBrujo]

PS5 is for poor PC gamers, noted.

 

[jm89]

PS5 is for poor PC gamers, noted.

Evidently not

Mat Piscatella (@matpiscatella.bsky.social)

High income households are becoming a bigger part of the US console hardware market. 49% of US VG console buyers during Q4 2024 had a household income of at least $100k/yr. This is a record high, beating the 48% seen in Q4 2021. This group accounted for only 29% of VG HW purchasers in Q1 2020.

bsky.app

Study Shows PlayStation Gamers Make the Most Money Out of All Console Players as Adults

I think this topic has potential to be fun. https://www.dualshockers.com/playstation-gamers-make-the-most-money-as-adults/

www.neogaf.com

 

[DeepEnigma]

PS5 is for poor PC gamers, noted.

Ass of Can Whooping

Educate him on household incomes, please.

 

[Horseganador]

Sony has been working in China for many years (although back then those projects were called "smoke") and now that they are arriving, the results are already being seen in sales.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Shu probably visits GAF once in a while. I can only imagine his embarrassed look after seeing some random Spaniard expressing his weird obsessive love all the time.

 

[Kerotan]

China market is a double edge sword but it helps. USA market, Euro, and Japan market are still the most important.

China becoming more relevant. If the growth continues the PS6 will be big there relative to other markets.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Ass of Can Whooping

Educate him on household incomes, please.

 

[Sebastian1295]

Sony have been putting in the hard work for years and it’s paying off

China Hero Project | PlayStation

The China Hero Project is a PlayStation mentoring and support initiative for China-based game developers, giving them the opportunity to develop amazing and imaginative games that can reach a worldwide audience.

www.playstation.com

Sony understands the Chinese audience. They have booth babes in the video!!!!

 

[Sooner]

Getting closer to that 1%

 

[Sethbacca]

I got shat on in another thread less than a month ago for saying that the cost of PC hardware is becoming unsustainable and that it's going to cause people to go to console as a cheaper alternative..... Consider this my shocked face.

 

[Euler007]

I was told it was too expensive.

 

[AFBT88]

As a PC gamer, if Nvidia keeps doing what they've done recently and AMD keeps screwing up, i will definetely switch to consoles. Graphic cards prices are getting absurd and i ain't paying 2000$ for a GPU.

 

[Ebrietas]

I was told that PC gamers don't switch to Playstation?

Correct. A PC gamer would never buy a console. Especially not in Asia.

Totally separate market and demographics. Zero overlap.

 

[Sgt. Pinback]

I suspect this could become more common around the world as people who want to play mainstream, big budget games look to alternatives to nvidia's price gouging.

 

[mayham2199]

As a PC gamer, if Nvidia keeps doing what they've done recently and AMD keeps screwing up, i will definetely switch to consoles. Graphic cards prices are getting absurd and i ain't paying 2000$ for a GPU.

Once I saw most games were hitting 60 FPS I switched back to consoles. That was the only thing keeping me on PC. It wasn't even the prices just all the other shit I had to deal with on PC gaming.
I still run into the occasional old games that look and run like shit on console so that does suck but I'll take that over the PC issues I had. It's the last thing I miss about PC gaming was how even really old games still looked incredible on PC.

 

[Felessan]

Correct. A PC gamer would never buy a console. Especially not in Asia.

Totally separate market and demographics. Zero overlap.

Everyone knows that consoles don't have Genshin

 

[RetroGamingUK]

ArtHands is being oddly quiet.

 

[Self_Destructive]

So they do.

They're the Xbox in China.. lmao last resort gaming

 

[Cyberpunkd]

If a country with more than 1b people suddently farts a fraction of its mobile/pc player base into the console sinkhole, sonys profit quadruples.

We go back to "1bln people" argument? Cute, makes me feel like it's 2006 again.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

They're the Xbox in China.. lmao last resort gaming

But people are switching from PC to PS5?

 

[Physiognomonics]

Selling consoles as a mean of growth? What an absurd idea. I thought PC was the future of Playstation.

 

[onQ123]

I'm disappointed in the lack of 1% of China jokes in this thread

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Chinese gamers are also mad because Nvidia is only allowed to officially sell neutered versions of their best cards in China

This is due to sanctions against potentially good computer equipment being sold to China which are imposed by the US

 

[onQ123]

Wrong! Sony just needs to get 1% to be the most important!

I was losing faith in NeoGaf when I didn't see the 1% of China comment postedbon the 1st page

 

[Self_Destructive]

But people are switching from PC to PS5?

No.. they're buying PS5s when PCs or GPUs aren't available, or affordable. That's what parents do at Christmas when the PS5s are all sold out in America.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

No.. they're buying PS5s when PCs or GPUs aren't available, or affordable. That's what parents do at Christmas when the PS5s are all sold out in America.

Yes, so they bought PS5s instead of upgrading their PCs.
Ie. they switched from PC to PS5.

 

[kazuyamishima]

I got shat on in another thread less than a month ago for saying that the cost of PC hardware is becoming unsustainable and that it's going to cause people to go to console as a cheaper alternative..... Consider this my shocked face.

Don't let the floodgates open, you might be sorry about that.

 

[Ebrietas]

No.. they're buying PS5s when PCs or GPUs aren't available, or affordable. That's what parents do at Christmas when the PS5s are all sold out in America.

So they're buying PS5s instead of PC parts. Thanks for confirming.

 

[Self_Destructive]

Yes, so they bought PS5s instead of upgrading their PCs.
Ie. they switched from PC to PS5.

They couldn't buy a PC, so the plan B option is PS5.... aka Xbox.

 

[Skifi28]

What's the double edge?

They're still Chinese.




Sorry, could not resist

 

[Killjoy-NL]

They couldn't buy a PC, so the plan B option is PS5.... aka Xbox.

The reason is irrelevant. What are you even trying to argue at this point?

 

[Self_Destructive]

So they're buying PS5s instead of PC parts. Thanks for confirming.

Because it's the option they're left with... after all other options are exhausted.

It's ok tho.

 

[Self_Destructive]

The reason is irrelevant. What are you even trying to argue at this point?

PS5 is the Xbox of China.

 

[Klayzer]

Because it's the option they're left with... after all other options are exhausted.

It's ok tho.

Lol. That's certainly one way to cope.

 

[yogaflame]

Sony has been working in China for many years (although back then those projects were called "smoke") and now that they are arriving, the results are already being seen in sales.

Sony also has projects in India, South Korea and Middle East which are also big. The good thing about this market including China, is there games are mostly no political and woke agendas.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

We go back to "1bln people" argument? Cute, makes me feel like it's 2006 again.

I stand corrected. It's 1.4b

 

[NeverYouMind]

They don't have AMD in China?

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I stand corrected. It's 1.4b

 

[StereoVsn]

Sony also has projects in India, South Korea and Middle East which are also big. The good thing about this market including China, is there games are mostly no political and woke agendas.

Wait… you think gamers in China aren’t political? -1000 to your Social Credit, comrade.

It’s very political over there, just a different kind of political. So is Middle East and India.

 

[yogaflame]

Wait… you think gamers in China aren’t political? -1000 to your Social Credit, comrade.

It’s very political over there, just a different kind of political. So is Middle East and India.

Well in fairness I did not see any communist indoctrination in there games, its mostly Chinese folklore, horror, genshin type fantasy games and space age adventures. No gender pronoun crap, no sodomy, and there characters are beautifuly designed, not being ugly or overweight.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well in fairness I did not see any communist indoctrination in there games, its mostly Chinese folklore, horror, genshin type fantasy games and space age adventures. No gender pronoun crap, no sodomy, and there characters are beautifuly designed, not being ugly or overweight.

Let's enjoy them for now, until if they ever gain a significant foothold, that is.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

 

[yogaflame]

Let's enjoy them for now, until if they ever gain a significant foothold, that is.

Good analogy. It helps sales of PS for sure, but just like I said before China is a double edged sword. But hopefully it's the other way around , that influence of good from outside will come inside China will happen, but I pray not those woke crap of the west. China cultures, people and values are good , it's only the communist government and communist ideology is evil.

 

[{insert code here}]

Impossible. NeoGAF told me that console sales were plummeting.

You have to look at the market as a whole to see it.

(PS5 + Xbox Series) < (PS4 + Xbox One + Wii U) < (PS3 + 360 + Wii)

 

[DarkstarRising13]

Once I saw most games were hitting 60 FPS I switched back to consoles. That was the only thing keeping me on PC. It wasn't even the prices just all the other shit I had to deal with on PC gaming.
I still run into the occasional old games that look and run like shit on console so that does suck but I'll take that over the PC issues I had. It's the last thing I miss about PC gaming was how even really old games still looked incredible on PC.

It certainly is true that the tables are starting to turn slowly against PC Gamers. 60fps was almost nonexistent in previous generations when the seventh generation of consoles hit the market. Now, thanks to the power of the PS5 adn especially the PS5 Pro, it’s become the norm even for average Joes/Janes to take notice of and demand a 60fps mode. Even Mark Cerny pointed this out on the PS5 Pro’s presentation and was a key factor when making the PS5 Pro.

PSSR will definitely be a great weapon against PC Gamers. Many games look excellent with it on. Resident Evil 4 Remake with PSSR on makes it the definitive console version with HFR on that, combine with an OLED TV, certainly makes it a blast to play.

 

[Self_Destructive]

Evidently not

Mat Piscatella (@matpiscatella.bsky.social)

High income households are becoming a bigger part of the US console hardware market. 49% of US VG console buyers during Q4 2024 had a household income of at least $100k/yr. This is a record high, beating the 48% seen in Q4 2021. This group accounted for only 29% of VG HW purchasers in Q1 2020.

bsky.app

Study Shows PlayStation Gamers Make the Most Money Out of All Console Players as Adults

I think this topic has potential to be fun. https://www.dualshockers.com/playstation-gamers-make-the-most-money-as-adults/

www.neogaf.com

That's literally what the article insinuates though. Some people who can't afford PCs are buying PS5s.

 

[mckmas8808]

You have to look at the market as a whole to see it.

(PS5 + Xbox Series) < (PS4 + Xbox One + Wii U) < (PS3 + 360 + Wii)

We did you remove the Nintendo Switch here from your equation?

 

[Skifi28]

You have to look at the market as a whole to see it.

(PS5 + Xbox Series) < (PS4 + Xbox One + Wii U) < (PS3 + 360 + Wii)

If you remove the PS5 too and just leave the Xbox the numbers work even better.

 

[bender]

ArtHands , post if you are ok.