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China responds to Mattis remarks on East China Sea islands

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Spectone

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US putting regional stability at risk, then what do you call building artificial islands and placing weapon systems on them then China?
 
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SmartBase

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I love the irony in China whining about the deployment of a missile defence system in South Korea when it's the reason it's needed in the first place.
 
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Setsuna

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Magni said:
I used to think you were some random German guy with a hard-on for Bayern, but I see you in literally every thread that concerns China defending them against whatever it is that they're being attacked in the thread for. Why?

On topic: the world can't get past fossil fuels soon enough, we should make those islands an international marine reserve or something.
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Has nothing to do with oil, but $4-6 trillion worth of shipping that can be used against the U.S, and or global economy
 
kingkaiser

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China should just offer a missile "defense" system to Canada and Mexico in respond.

Would be funny to see how the US hypocrites would react to that.
 
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Savitar

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Trump: We'll never let China have those islands.

China: We'll take away three billion from your debt and praise you as a wise leader for this.

Trump: SOLD
 
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One might say relations aren't Lu Kang good.
 
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The Salt Life

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erlim said:
What are on those islands exactly that everybody in East Asia has their panties in a snowflake?
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nampad

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China trying to claim stuff of others again and again. Good on the US to include the Senkaku islands in the treaty.

Blablurn said:
Ah, true! my fault. so many territorial disputes going on, despite it being very obvious that China owns the right to them.
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That's not true at all.
 
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Cerium said:
Oil.
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No not really. It is more or less all about nationalism and about impotent rage at America having been the arbiter of who had sovereignty over what after WW2. With some vague converns over fishing rights and potential natural gas deposits in the Dokdo disputes with Korea. But 99% of it is about China and Korea wanting to embarrass Japan and by extension the US
 
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Frozenprince

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For those asking why we are involved and why America is playing world police

Japan and Korea have been our allies for over 60 years now, and the US is world police because the US is the sole global super power. Of course we're directly involved. Any other nation that has global reach and overwhelming power projection would be.
 
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airmangataosenai said:
No not really. It is more or less all about nationalism and about impotent rage at America having been the arbiter of who had sovereignty over what after WW2. With some vague converns over fishing rights and potential natural gas deposits in the Dokdo disputes with Korea. But 99% of it is about China and Korea wanting to embarrass Japan and by extension the US
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Yep. A lot of insiders reckoned that Beijing would have let the matter drop and to a certain extent were caught off-guard by the populist protests following the partial nationalisation of the islands. Now it's just a useful issue to rally popular sentiment - asserting these claims aggressively is a way of making China look big and powerful on the national stage. The islands themselves have very little strategic value and even the oil reserves are not especially interesting in context.
 
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Crab said:
Yep. A lot of insiders reckoned that Beijing would have let the matter drop and to a certain extent were caught off-guard by the populist protests following the partial nationalisation of the islands. Now it's just a useful issue to rally popular sentiment - asserting these claims aggressively is a way of making China look big and powerful on the national stage. The islands themselves have very little strategic value and even the oil reserves are not especially interesting in context.
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The whole thing is just a pissing contest.
 
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Kimawolf

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America is setting up a lot of anti missile defense systems all around the world..
what if someone hacked and stole them....


the script for XXX 4: Xander strikes back!
 
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Breads said:
I'm seeing the word snowflake being tossed around a lot. Is this a new dog whistle term? What does it mean?

I thought snowflakes where people who eschewed aesthetic sensibilities in favor of being unique, usually to the expense of their own dignity.

As for the topic at hand... come on. Why do we (the us) have to fight this. This is in their (East Asia's) interest. Let them sort it out amongst themselves. Why does the US have to stick it's nose into everything.
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Despite what our President says, the US cannot be an isolated nation, we have allies all over the world. We can't ignore Taiwan and Japan.
 
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China has been saber rattling and testing U.S. resolve. China has been bullying surrounding nations and *THEY* are the ones who've started these chains of events,
not the United States and not President Trump(who is wrongly being accused of escalating and starting this).

Here is a great article regarding what China is doing http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/asia/china-south-china-sea-disputes-explainer/

They have also repeatedly been warned about currency manipulation when it comes to the Chinese Yuan and American dollar. This is also something President Obama's administration had to deal with.

They won't risk a war with the U.S. as they have the most favored nation trading status with us(that could be taken from them as a form of sanction).

This is also very typical of what China and North Korea do when we elect a new administration. They're actively testing us to see what our response or course of action will be.

In the end, this will be resolved without any military confrontation. China has everything to lose and nothing to gain from their actions.
 
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Thequietone

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How about this? Since the islands are uninhabited no one gets them? I know too easy of a solution and greed will lead them to a pointless conflict.
 
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erlim

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ultrazilla said:
China has been saber rattling and testing U.S. resolve. China has been bullying surrounding nations and *THEY* are the ones who've started these chains of events,
not the United States and not President Trump(who is wrongly being accused of escalating and starting this).

Here is a great article regarding what China is doing http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/asia/china-south-china-sea-disputes-explainer/

They have also repeatedly been warned about currency manipulation when it comes to the Chinese Yuan and American dollar. This is also something President Obama's administration had to deal with.

They won't risk a war with the U.S. as they have the most favored nation trading status with us(that could be taken from them as a form of sanction).

This is also very typical of what China and North Korea do when we elect a new administration. They're actively testing us to see what our response or course of action will be.

In the end, this will be resolved without any military confrontation. China has everything to lose and nothing to gain from their actions.
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I see where you're coming from with the saber rattling thing, and you're right, China is trying to test out how much it can push. However, this administration might just pull the trigger and behave in a severely aggressive way that nobody has tried to with China before.
 
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erlim said:
I see where you're coming from with the saber rattling thing, and you're right, China is trying to test out how much it can push. However, this administration might just pull the trigger and behave in a severely aggressive way that nobody has tried to with China before.
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I don't think it's a test at all.
 
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They're in Japanese seas, quite clearly.

nampad said:
China trying to claim stuff of others again and again. Good on the US to include the Senkaku islands in the treaty.
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Exactly.

Blablurn said:
The see routes in the Soutch Chinese Sea are the endgame. if you control them, your control the economy.

Based on historical facts, this area belongs to China.
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LMAO, no. That has about as much leg to stand on as if Japan were claiming Eastern China, but they're not.
 
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