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Chuds are winning, wokes are losing. Do game developers still not get the message?

Stuart360

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Sony Playstation developers
Have you ever seen a more unappealing main character?.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
2024 has been a banner for chuds, we got our 'rare chuds win' one after another;
- woke games bombed (Suicide Squad, Concord, SW Outlaws, DA Veilguard, Dustborn, Unknown 9, and many others)
- based games prospered (Stellar Blade, Wukong, Helldiver 2, Space Marine 2)

Looks like the momentum continues in 2025. In latest major developments in war against wokeness
- Chinese-developed Marvel Rivals is doing great numbers with its traditionally designed characters (masculine men, sexy feminine females)
- BIG NEWS: Meta completely nuked all their DEI programs and Facebook/Instagram dumped censorship and wokeness completely
- Amazon also cancelled many of their DEI programs
- Ubisoft is on the brink of bankruptcy and AC: Shadows delayed once again. Will Ubisoft even survive before Shadows released??
- CI Games, Lord of the Fallen studio, said they will not implement anymore DEI elements in their games, because they basically said 'go woke go broke'

With all these recent developments, Do other game developers still not get the message???? is Naughty Dog still going to stick to their bald dude female character? is Fable still going to keep their butt ugly female character?? they're risking hundreds of millions of dollars, even when they already know what the outcome will be

DEI wokeness is dying, chuds are winning. Adjust or DIE
DEI and woke culture in general is doomed to fail because it attempted to rewrite reality. They attempted to:

1) brainwash you into thinking that you do not need to look at beautiful people (you do)
2) brainwash you into thinking that women can do everything that men can and better (they can't - not *every* thing)
3) brainwash you into thinking that you should be ashamed for being white, male and straight (you shouldn't)
4) brainwash you into thinking that all people belonging to minority groups are always better and smarter than you and you are holding them back (they aren't *always* and you don't)
5) brainwash you into thinking that you are a horrible person for calling them out on their practices (you are not)
6) brainwash you into thinking that people getting hired based on skin color and sexuality has no effect on merit and quality (it has)

You can trick some people forever. You can trick all people for some time. But you cannot trick all people forever.

They can hide their work and their intentions all they like. They can hide SBI, black gamers inc. and whatnot - it doesn't matter. The moment you see a game having butt ugly women in it, the moment you see all white male characters being emasculated and lectured, the moment you see the protagonist being a butch black lesbian who looks like a dude ... you immediately know where this is going. You don't need to see an SBI logo to be sure.

Just. Trust. Your. Gut.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I mean, yes? Have you see Star Wars Outlaws main character?
She looks better than thatthing above. If fact in gameplay the Outlaws character actually looks fine, she's just gimped in the cutscenes for some reason
Going by wacky cinematic images, it really comes down to if you guys prefer an 80s mophead with a giant double chin or a Shaolin Monk drinking a slurpee. lol
 

Kings Field

Member
DEI and woke culture in general is doomed to fail because it attempted to rewrite reality. They attempted to:

1) brainwash you into thinking that you do not need to look at beautiful people (you do)
2) brainwash you into thinking that women can do everything that men can and better (they can't - not *every* thing)
3) brainwash you into thinking that you should be ashamed for being white, male and straight (you shouldn't)
4) brainwash you into thinking that all people belonging to minority groups are always better and smarter than you and you are holding them back (they aren't *always* and you don't)
5) brainwash you into thinking that you are a horrible person for calling them out on their practices (you are not)
6) brainwash you into thinking that people getting hired based on skin color and sexuality has no effect on merit and quality (it has)

You can trick some people forever. You can trick all people for some time. But you cannot trick all people forever.

They can hide their work and their intentions all they like. They can hide SBI, black gamers inc. and whatnot - it doesn't matter. The moment you see a game having butt ugly women in it, the moment you see all white male characters being emasculated and lectured, the moment you see the protagonist being a butch black lesbian who looks like a dude ... you immediately know where this is going. You don't need to see an SBI logo to be sure.

Just. Trust. Your. Gut.

2025. post of the fucking year. Nailed it all.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
DEI and woke culture in general is doomed to fail because it attempted to rewrite reality. They attempted to:

1) brainwash you into thinking that you do not need to look at beautiful people (you do)
2) brainwash you into thinking that women can do everything that men can and better (they can't - not *every* thing)
3) brainwash you into thinking that you should be ashamed for being white, male and straight (you shouldn't)
4) brainwash you into thinking that all people belonging to minority groups are always better and smarter than you and you are holding them back (they aren't *always* and you don't)
5) brainwash you into thinking that you are a horrible person for calling them out on their practices (you are not)
6) brainwash you into thinking that people getting hired based on skin color and sexuality has no effect on merit and quality (it has)

You can trick some people forever. You can trick all people for some time. But you cannot trick all people forever.

They can hide their work and their intentions all they like. They can hide SBI, black gamers inc. and whatnot - it doesn't matter. The moment you see a game having butt ugly women in it, the moment you see all white male characters being emasculated and lectured, the moment you see the protagonist being a butch black lesbian who looks like a dude ... you immediately know where this is going. You don't need to see an SBI logo to be sure.

Just. Trust. Your. Gut.
And the great and hilarious thing about this is that many companies lately are axing DEI. There is too much customer pushback that affects sales. There is some guy who helped rally the masses on social media to make Harley Davidson and another company change their internal DEI policies.

So what this shows to the woke-ish folks on social media or even employees hired due to DEI initiatives is that they are tossed to the curb again. Except for the most hardcore DEI supporting company who will to go down with the ship, at some point big companies will follow the sales and change back. They had their fun 5 year romp going political trying to paint a picture they are everyone's best friend. Now it's time to get back to nuts and bolts business financials and hiring on merit than ratio hires.

And more companies will change too. Follow the leader.
 
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What is going on with this message board these days? lol. Take this to X, please. For someone so against "woke" stuff you sure seem triggered as hell over a damn game. I really think America needs to find a way to make therapy more accessible and mandatory. This is not healthy at all. These things really bother you this much? Developers will go where the money is. They don't care about any of us, lol. Its a new year, move on.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Woke isn’t a thing?!? Are you in America or Western hemisphere??? It’s literally right there, several posts before yours

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What’s also weird about any lbgt woke push is what the hell us with all the rainbow colours and various flags and stuff.

Just dress like a normal person and axe the waving flags stuff making it look like us vs them. Are giant spectrums of colours needed for motivation? Are the flags needed like a 200 year old wars with those flag bearer guys on the frontline? I guess they need it for self esteem.

I don’t think any straight person in life has ever cared about waving a straight flag in peoples faces.
 
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Fess

Member
The tide has definitely turned. But it will take 2-4 years to see the results due to long dev times.
Yeah that’s how it is. There will be a couple rough years for devs who bet too much on this stuff but those who’re planning a release in 2+ years should be able to change things around to fit current times.
 

PeteBull

Member
The chuds are about to wipe Ubisoft off the face of the planet. A shame, because there could have been a renaissance there if they took control of their company. Ghost Recon, R6, Splinter Cell, PoP, Far Cry…and all they had to do was make them and make them like they used to.
Ubi was stupid and stubborn enough to not change back in time, they got nothing but themselfs to blame.
Compared to some non profit organisation, all companies are made/run for profit, if pushing agenda takes over, then ofc they either make way less profit or straight go bankrupt, its obvious and normal thing :)
 

MonkD

Member
And the irony is that companies and people in positions of power believe in it.

let than sink for a moment. and reflect how fucked up that is.
I doubt they believe or give a shit about it in either direction. They are trying to produce games that sell.

But right now they've either been to tone deaf or hands-off, that has in turn lead to a lot of their employees getting away with implementing their political agendas. And it seems to me like a lot of market analysts today don't know what they are doing. They check the pulse of market and start development of a game that won't be out for another 5-8 years, and whatever they put out is already dated by the time it is released. I'd say this is typical for any company that is run by incompetent people.
 

cireza

Member
I don't think this is a win for anybody. Is there an actual fight engaged here ?

More like woke movement is losing alone because it doesn't make sense, to such a degree at least, as a business opportunity. Companies are only here to make a profit, they don't care about ideology or anything, they will simply go where the money is.
 
It will take a while yet for the victory to be complete, but it is happening and picking up much needed momentum. On the eastern side of gaming, Square Enix needs to stop bowing the knee. Now they are talking about suing gamers


 
Actually the tide is changing but VERY slowly. And a lot of games developement started at the peak of the trend. Also, videogames industry can be even more retarded than the movie industry and slower about learning of its mistakes. In other words, give it time.
 
While the OP has a point. The game market was crashing long before the woke/chud debate started.

AAA games cost way too much $$$ to make and take far too long. All the companies started to chase Billionaire dreams of a couple specific genres. It hasn’t worked.

Games have also become far too complicated.

It is one of the many reasons Nintendo is rolling. Half Nintendos games are remakes from yesteryear. Providing a wide variety of genres.
 
While the OP has a point. The game market was crashing long before the woke/chud debate started.

AAA games cost way too much $$$ to make and take far too long. All the companies started to chase Billionaire dreams of a couple specific genres. It hasn’t worked.

Games have also become far too complicated.

It is one of the many reasons Nintendo is rolling. Half Nintendos games are remakes from yesteryear. Providing a wide variety of genres.
While this is true (in terms of homogenizing AAA), certainly there has been large volumes of jet fuel dropped upon the situation.
 
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raviolico

Member
2024 has been a banner for chuds, we got our 'rare chuds win' one after another;
- woke games bombed (Suicide Squad, Concord, SW Outlaws, DA Veilguard, Dustborn, Unknown 9, and many others)
- based games prospered (Stellar Blade, Wukong, Helldiver 2, Space Marine 2)

Looks like the momentum continues in 2025. In latest major developments in war against wokeness
- Chinese-developed Marvel Rivals is doing great numbers with its traditionally designed characters (masculine men, sexy feminine females)
- BIG NEWS: Meta completely nuked all their DEI programs and Facebook/Instagram dumped censorship and wokeness completely
- Amazon also cancelled many of their DEI programs
- Ubisoft is on the brink of bankruptcy and AC: Shadows delayed once again. Will Ubisoft even survive before Shadows released??
- CI Games, Lord of the Fallen studio, said they will not implement anymore DEI elements in their games, because they basically said 'go woke go broke'

With all these recent developments, Do other game developers still not get the message???? is Naughty Dog still going to stick to their bald dude female character? is Fable still going to keep their butt ugly female character?? they're risking hundreds of millions of dollars, even when they already know what the outcome will be

DEI wokeness is dying, chuds are winning. Adjust or DIE
Dear god.....
 

Ivan

Member
Just imagine that everything you said was true, but since the development time is so long nowadays, we'll have to play woke shit that started development earlier for at least five years 😅
 

Draugoth

Gold Member
The fascinating thing is that most of these projects are a complete waste of money. There are so many examples and it keeps happening, lol.

It's so bizarre to me. But Blackrock is definitely a thing with funding this through ESG and ESG inherently brings in DEI. And now the West seems to be actively pushing back against it through elections. What a bizarre time in history.

What Omg GIF

The only reason DEI agenda in games didn't straight up die is because of Blackrock and other investment companies.
 
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TastyPastry

Member
nah woke is still winning sadly, yeah the chuds won a couple battles but pretty much every western AAA studio has been infiltrated by woke hires in senior positions. if a woke game fails they just move on to the next one.
 

Cakeboxer

Gold Member
The only reason DEI agenda in games didn't straight up die is because of Blackrock and other investment companies.
The endboss is Sony. With their AAA game and marketing budgets, games simply can't fail completely and so they can always be an example of how good dei works in games.
 
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