Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I'm also too scared to drop Tiger Lilly right now since I rely on her Medi-Mortar quite a bit to make up for not being the best strategist, haha.
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Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I'm actually getting positive news from people playing it (particularly /v/ rather than in NeoGAF, and honestly I trust that place more when it comes to games) and I'm not really that bothered by the waiting time (I honestly thought X-COM has longer times at some stages).
I guess I'll pick this up when it comes out here.
I guess I'll pick this up when it comes out here.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Well I pre ordered this bad boy, I'm a huge tactics fan ( X Com, v cronicles, ogre, fire emblem) I read a lot of disappointing reviews and posts and I didn't pick my pre order up; however this thread I'm going to go grab that bad boy tomorrow.
From what I gathered the reviews only refer to the early missions which are subpar, but the missions afterwards are really good and very hard.
EndlessSky
Member
Well I pre ordered this bad boy, I'm a huge tactics fan ( X Com, v cronicles, ogre, fire emblem) I read a lot of disappointing reviews and posts and I didn't pick my pre order up; however this thread I'm going to go grab that bad boy tomorrow
You definitely should. It's a great game.
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Mission 8 character discussion:
The fox's rifle is a little disappointing. Huge cost with only ok power. Can't even 1 shot when hitting the weak points. I do have the scouting boiler that I havent been able to try on her yet, and that will prob make her better, but wish she had a little more umph. Right now I usually run Henry (amazing special), Queequeg (cause I like penguins, and it's actually really useful), and Tom for mobility. The last character will prob go to the fox whenever I get to bring 4 people. Stun sub weapon + penguin is my fav combo right now. The scientist guy was great in his debut map, but I don't think he's that useful on regular maps, though his ability is amazing
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
About that character...
Not sure how since I haven't got her yet, but I've heard people swear up and down she's the best with some set-up, like 500 damage per shot
Alex_Mexico
Member
What's this I hear about Adam Baldwin being in this game? Is it true?
EndlessSky
Member
more about the mission 8 character:
Yeah, I've even got 600 before. But sometimes I just get ~60 for a weak spot hit. Maybe there's some sort of sweet spot distance that maximizes the damage. I'll have to play around with her some more
TDLink
Member
Yes, he voices the "main" character Henry Fleming.
I was told both Will Wheaton and Adam Baldwin are in the game doing voice acting, meaning it's getting criticism from both sides of the GG spectrum.
I was also told the voiceovers were finished before GG was even a thing, but I don't know if that's true.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Heck, you don't even have to know what GG is to hate Adam's inclusion - he's a pretty outspoken homophobe.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Where did you hear that? I hope it's true because I was in the fence with this game but I'm not paying any money to anything Adam Baldwin's in. You only need to spend 5 minutes reading his Twitter timeline to witness what a nutcase he is. He coined the term Gamergate, for fuck's sake, and continues to champion it to this day.
Dammit NoA. Why do game companies keep hiring this homophobe and all around general hater?
EDIT: also as far as I'm concerned there's no "two sides" to GG. There's the gators and then there's everyone else and that's it.
KawaiiRaptor
Neo Member
I had no idea this was a thing. I want now.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Two years ago? That's ridiclous! Anyway that's reassuring although were I the decision maker I would've recasted Baldwin's role if possible.
Why did Wil Wheaton specified that the recordings were so long ago? Did he stated that in regards to Gamergate and his and Adam's polar opposite stances on this mess?
Riposte
Member
In one sense, there's two sides: people who randomly bring up gamergate in threads in order to feel indignant about things scantily related to it and those who don't.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Well forgive me but I'm talking about an actor that plays the main role of the game in question, I think it's related. I wanted to make sure he was in, I had no idea and now unknow he voices the main character, and I'm venting my disapproval.
An acquaintance mentioned it but I don't have a source other than that.
I'm certainly not defending Adam Baldwin or Gamergate though, just pointing out that the game is sort of caught in the crossfire because it has both Wheaton and Baldwin.
One of the treehouse reps said they even moved sequences around and spliced lines together to get the desired effect. He also mentioned if there was a certain amount of lines that needed to be redone or recorded they would have went back into the studio.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
A Link to the Past
Banned
That's not a thing at all. It's more like, "Hitler is voicing Henry Fleming." Taking issue with the morality of the cast of a work of fiction is an okay thing to do.
TheMoon
Member
a) You see it on the pop-up screen once you replay a map. That's why you're "supposed" to go for par-times on replays, not your first time through.
b) The Fox is a sniper.
That is most definitely true since they revealed the game with voicework already done last E3 which was right before or as GG was starting to boil up. During the twitch stream on Friday Wil Wheaton said they started voice recording in 2013 (!) so casting was done about or more than TWO YEARS AGO at this point.
Making a fuss about Baldwin's involvement in a "how could they!" way is the stupidest thing ever.
To be clear: him being a complete dick / idiot / etc is out of the question obviously and that has already retroactively ruined some of my favorite TV shows for me. His presence is generic enough here that I can easily ignore it's him.
Now let's please move back to talking about the game and not some meta issues (esp. if those are related to that GG pest).
Awesome
thanks for responses.I look forward to playing it tonight!
cooljeanius
Member
So I asked this on Miiverse, but no one has responded to it yet, so I'll ask here as well:
On Mission #10 (it's called "A Line in The Sand" and takes place in Monument Valley, and is the one where you get
), what sort of team have people been going with? At first I just went with the default
for my 3 chosen characters, but then I noticed all the ledges that none of my characters could climb, so I restarted and swapped my choosable characters out for Tom, Lion, and Henry with the jump booster
, and then I found myself getting completely destroyed by the incoming exploding enemies... So basically, mobility vs. defense: which is better for Mission #10?
On Mission #10 (it's called "A Line in The Sand" and takes place in Monument Valley, and is the one where you get
Tin Man
(Randolph, Tiger Lily, and Califia)
(I gave the Jump Booster to Henry because he's the only one with Overwatch on his primary weapon that doesn't already have some sort of mobility, and I like to make sure all my characters have one Overwatch-capable weapon)
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Man, I was looking forward to this, but between the review complaints and the Baldwin stuff I just don't want to pick it up anymore :/
EDIT: Let me be clear, the reviews are what really killed it for me
EDIT: Let me be clear, the reviews are what really killed it for me
El Pescado
Member
If you're a fan of this type of game; ignore the reviews. I feel like a lot of the low review scores either didn't play very much of the game or just weren't fans of this type of game. I mean, let's be honest, third-person, tactical strategy RPGs are kind of a niche genre.
cooljeanius
Member
Then how come people are saying stuff like:
So I'll ask again: Is there any place I can catch a replay/recording of the Twitch stream? It's seeming like I did actually miss stuff...
TheMoon
Member
cooljeanius
Member
Thanks!
I can't check it right this moment (I saved at mission 5-3 because I need help finding the 3rd gear), but basically, there's 3 different ways you can replay a mission:
- Blind Eye: No HUD for either your steam or the enemy's health. Reward: 1.2x the medals
- No Return: No backtracking. Once you take a step, that steam can't be recovered. Reward: 1.5x the medals
- Merciless: Enemies are much stronger now Reward: 2x the medals
Eh, I tend to trust reviewers more than fans, at least for Day 1 impressions. Fans make an effort to enjoy the game since they just spent money on it, which tends to skew opinions.
After a month or so is passed, then I start trusting fans more than reviewers since they've settled down.
what's wrong with making an effort to enjoy things?
god people are so jaded these days!
Obviously nothing is wrong with that on a personal level. But you wouldn't spend money according to reviews that attempt to like or dislike things. If I attempt to enjoy a bad game I can probably get some enjoyment out of it. But if I instead attempt to enjoy a good game I can probably love it.
TheMoon
Member
Where it says "Team" on the top-right corner of the touch screen, tap it & it'll switch to show units & the stats of weapons.
I just downloaded and played up to #2 in the demo. Great game so far. I like the third person mechanics. I enjoy being surprised by enemies and having to actually aim. It strongly reminds me of the tabletop game Heroscape.
I'm going to go pick up the game later today. I have two questions:
How many save game slots are there? I assume three.
How many missions are in the demo?
I'm going to go pick up the game later today. I have two questions:
How many save game slots are there? I assume three.
How many missions are in the demo?
TheMoon
Member
2 "missions"
Mission 1 is three maps. Mission 2 is one map. After that you can replay all four maps with the four characters you have collected by the end of the demo.
Thanks. I've played through the first three maps of mission #1. If the demo was much longer, I would just wait for the retail game. Looks like I'll play through mission #2 before buying then.
I like the characters.
Thanks! Talk about not straight forward. I've played like 5 missions and wasn't able to figure it out.
TheMoon
Member
Always click on everything at least once. Helps a lot! I tend to do it with every game. I need to know what things do.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I imagine with doing voice acting for a game, the actors got a set amount of money when they finished recording the lines, regardless of how many copies the game does or does not sell...
So, you're really not supporting Adam Baldwin at all when you buy this. This isn't like an Orson Scott Card novel where he more or less gets paid based on copies sold after the money goes through his publisher, Adam is just one of many people involved with this game.
I guess if S.T.E.A.M. does well enough though they might re-hire him for downloadable content, if Henry gets into Smash, etc., but maybe they'll reconsider seeing the stir he's made around the net. Truth be told I think Henry has a good voice, but it's generic enough they could probably get another dude to do it easily.
So, you're really not supporting Adam Baldwin at all when you buy this. This isn't like an Orson Scott Card novel where he more or less gets paid based on copies sold after the money goes through his publisher, Adam is just one of many people involved with this game.
I guess if S.T.E.A.M. does well enough though they might re-hire him for downloadable content, if Henry gets into Smash, etc., but maybe they'll reconsider seeing the stir he's made around the net. Truth be told I think Henry has a good voice, but it's generic enough they could probably get another dude to do it easily.
Velcro Fly
Member
Damn in the demo I had no trouble on the Map 3 of Mission 1 clearing it with my people alive and getting all the gears.
This time I was going to die but I know my mistake so I'm restarting the map.
This time I was going to die but I know my mistake so I'm restarting the map.