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[Loomy]

I think they have learned. Just because it’s done well doesn’t mean they haven’t learned anything. The game was in a really bad state at one point but they stuck with it and turned it around. They made a lot of money off it at launch so they could’ve fucked off with the money and not gave a shit.

A lot of people still think it’s a bad game and are willing to give CDPR shit so their reputation is still damaged but those who have actually played it know that they put in serious work to improve it.

I bought it at launch on PC and it wasn’t terrible but after the 2.0 (?) patch and Phantom Liberty it is a much much much better game and one of my all time favourites.

They can’t afford to fuck up the next release which I think is Witcher 4.

Cyberpunk is a very good game.

The reason I say they will never learn is because this isn't the first time they launched a bug filled borderline unplayable game. They did the same with Witcher 2 and Witcher 3. They didn't learn after those 2 games, and I have a hard time believing they have learned now.

 

[LectureMaster]

Very impressive. One of the legend redemption arc in history.

I just hope they stay true as the passionate dev when they started witcher 1, and not get overly poisoned by western bullshit modern culture.

 

[V1LÆM]

gonna play it for the first time + pathtracing when the 5090 is released

The game with everything on max is amazing.

Cyberpunk is a very good game.

The reason I say they will never learn is because this isn't the first time they launched a bug filled borderline unplayable game. They did the same with Witcher 2 and Witcher 3. They didn't learn after those 2 games, and I have a hard time believing they have learned now.

I know but this has been the biggest fuck up. Bigger than the whole Witcher 3 graphics downgrade.

Maybe you’re right but I do think they will be more cautious next time. They can’t afford another shit launch and I don’t think they want their games pulled off stores.

We’ll see

 

[Magic Carpet]

Bought on Xbox One X. Just awful.
Continued on Series S. Just awful.
Finished on Series X. Finished with all bought cars and all side quests. over 100 hours. Just awful
Rebought on PC. Why didn't I wait? Why? It looks and plays so much better.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Not worth it just for 1 more sale.

I have good money to spend.

 

[kikkis]

One of the best looking video games out there. Good story with amazing characters. Combat is so fun…I do enjoy a hacking/sword build. The map is one of the best in any video game.

I definitely agree that the world in terms visuals is cool.

 

[V1LÆM]

I have good money to spend.

Yeah I know you have money to spend… maybe more than you know what to do with.

 

[Loomy]

I know but this has been the biggest fuck up. Bigger than the whole Witcher 3 graphics downgrade.

Maybe you’re right but I do think they will be more cautious next time. They can’t afford another shit launch and I don’t think they want their games pulled off stores.

We’ll see

Biggest fuckup since their last biggest fuckup. Graphial downgrade was the least of Witcher 3's problems.

And they can definitely afford it. They sold 30 million copies of an $80 product, plus 8 million copies of a $30 product.

By the time this game comes out, there'll be a whole new group of "reviewers" and "influencers" who will gladly take their bribe (like the branded yellow Cyberpunk chairs) and forget how abysmal the Cyberpunk launch was, just like the current ones forgot how bad Witcher 3 launch was.

 

[DanielG165]

The Witcher 4 is in full swing, they’re not making a Pro patch, guys; they don’t need to.

OT: Awesome news and well deserved after how they completely turned 2077 around.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Can't wait for that GOTY nom.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Yeah I know you have money to spend… maybe more than you know what to do with.

That $20 surplus is massive, yeah.

 

[BigLee74]

I bought it and loved it!

 

[EN250]

Deserved after that long road to redemption they went through by keep updating the game, tho all that could have been avoided if they didn't got greedy with PS4/bone versions

 

[mckmas8808]

Imagine releasing a PS5 Pro patch...They'll have 30.01 millions.

30.03 from me too

 

[PauloRoberto]

Biggest fuckup since their last biggest fuckup. Graphial downgrade was the least of Witcher 3's problems.

And they can definitely afford it. They sold 30 million copies of an $80 product, plus 8 million copies of a $30 product.

By the time this game comes out, there'll be a whole new group of "reviewers" and "influencers" who will gladly take their bribe (like the branded yellow Cyberpunk chairs) and forget how abysmal the Cyberpunk launch was, just like the current ones forgot how bad Witcher 3 launch was.

Sorry, but this math is wrong. They absolutely did NOT sell 30 millions copies of a $80 product.

 

[mckmas8808]

I thought so at first.. but perhaps it's a joke that there aren't many Pro users.. so it will only add little sales?

So what's this?

 

[cormack12]

Superb game. I played it at launch and it was kinda rough, but after 1.6 dropped it became one of my favourite games ever.

 

[Wolves hunt in packs]

So what's this?

lol you found the most total noob to PC world... i guess even smaller market then the pro?

 

[Loomy]

Sorry, but this math is wrong. They absolutely did NOT sell 30 millions copies of a $80 product.

That's the MSRP and looking at price history on both Steam and GOG, it has spent most of its time at full price. But let's average it out to $60 if it makes you more comfortable with the math. Point still stands.

 

[Senua]

I completed the game at launch on PC and despite its shortcomings, I still had a great time. I really need to go back and play it through again and see just how much they've improved it.

 

[PauloRoberto]

That's the MSRP and looking at price history on both Steam and GOG, it has spent most of its time at full price. But let's average it out to $60 if it makes you more comfortable with the math. Point still stands.

Wrong again.

https://steamdb.info/app/1091500/

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/cyberpunk-2077/history/

But no worries. If you want to inflate a price to show a product is more lucrative (ludicrous, also given the work to salvage it after the first weeks and such), i simply will ignore you (already has)

 

[timothet]

That's the MSRP and looking at price history on both Steam and GOG, it has spent most of its time at full price. But let's average it out to $60 if it makes you more comfortable with the math. Point still stands.

Dude, where are you taking this data from? MSRP on Steam for most of the regions was $60 or lower. The only region close to $80 is Switzerland at $78.86. The second highest is Costa Rica at $68.46.
And it's constantly on -50% sale.

 

[Saber]

That's not port begging, since there already is a PS5 port. It's asking Project Red to keep their games up to date to support a new consoles revision. Every fucking games company should be required to this. It's nonsense that we as paying customers even have to ask companies to do this.

I'm not sure it's port begging because there's a PS5 version and a theoretical Pro patch would only be an enhancement. It's not like Cyberpunk is a new game.

So, it is PRO version begging not port begging. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Kings Field]

I bought about 20 copies when they were on sale for like 5 bucks a few years ago and gave them to friends.

 

[rkofan87]

And this is why they will never learn.

this w4 i going to be a shit show day1.

 

[FrankWza]

So, it is PRO version begging not port begging. Thanks for the clarification.

But this gens xbox pro console got a version so why should Playstation be left out when it sells more copies?

 

[timothet]

So, it is PRO version begging not port begging. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, it's probably not viable for CDPR business-wise as PS platform accounts only for 20% of CP2077 sales... and PS5 PRO is a fraction of that currently.

Maybe they will work on it some years later when Pro user base will be bigger. They are not afraid to go back to old projects and upgrade them as we saw with next-gen version of W3.

 

[Hookshot]

Didn't play it as I didn't like Witcher but wasn't this boycotted?

30 Mil added to the 30+ Mil of Hogwarts suggests that boycotts against stronger targets aren't very effective.

 

[FrankWza]

Yeah, it's probably not viable for CDPR business-wise as PS platform accounts only for 20% of CP2077 sales... and PS5 PRO is a fraction of that currently.

Maybe they will work on it some years later when Pro user base will be bigger. They are not afraid to go back to old projects and upgrade them as we saw with next-gen version of W3.

13% on Xbox with most of it probably on the base version since it sold more than their Pro. If it was financially viable to release on xbox pro why not PS5 Pro? Just because xbox got a 4 year head start because they're innovators?

 

[dispensergoinup]

Enjoyed it for what it was and finished long before the re-work.

Sad for the console players back when it released though.

 

[amigastar]

gonna play it for the first time + pathtracing when the 5090 is released

I can run it very good on max settings with pathtracing on my 4070 so 5090 is not really needed here.

 

[timothet]

30 millions is good, The Witcher 3 has 50 million? Don't think CP will reach that numbers but still very nice.

Cyberpunk is actually selling better when you compare it to when W3 reached 30M units. It took W3 around 5 years vs 4 years for Cyberpunk.

13% on Xbox with most of it probably on the base version since it sold more than their Pro. If it was financially viable to release on xbox pro why not PS5 Pro? Just because xbox got a 4 year head start because they're innovators?

CDPR always had good business relationships with Microsoft (console exclusive of W2, revealing W3 on xbox E3 showcase, custom cyberpunk themed console and controller, Keanu Reeves reveal at xbox showcase to name few). I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft paid them to release that patch or offer some other assistance.

 

[FrankWza]

CDPR always had good business relationships with Microsoft (console exclusive of W2, revealing W3 on xbox E3 showcase, custom cyberpunk themed console and controller, Keany Reeves reveal at xbox showcase to name few). I wouldn't be surprused if Microsoft paid them to release that patch or offer some other assistance.

We've gotta get phil over to our side somehow. He's quite the strategist

 

[Shake Your Rump]

Just bought the PS5 Ultimate edition on disc for half price. I'll check it out over the Christmas break.

 

[FrankWza]

Just bought the PS5 Ultimate edition on disc for half price. I'll check it out over the Christmas break.

30,000,002

 

[Fake]

They really change the state of their game.

 

[BennyBlanco]

But this gens xbox pro console got a version so why should Playstation be left out when it sells more copies?

PS didn’t outsell Xbox by much and now consider what that tiny sliver of that 20% bought a ps5 pro. Only way this is getting a pro patch is if Sony pays like Apple very likely did. I hope they do though because this game would be by far the best benchmark for how hard they could push RT on a console.

 

[Xtib81]

Well deserved. It is my favorite game this gen, nothing comes close to Night City.

 

[Denton]

Very good. The game is in another league entirely compared to products from Bethesda, Bioware or Ubisoft. So the high sales are well deserved.
Now, Larian has basically replaced Bioware and Warhorse is replacing Bethesda, so we will still get some great RPGs in the future.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Very good. The game is in another league entirely compared to products from Bethesda, Bioware or Ubisoft. So the high sales are well deserved.
Now, Larian has basically replaced Bioware and Warhorse is replacing Bethesda, so we will still get some great RPGs in the future.

And Owlcat is replacing old Larian

 

[Denton]

they launched a bug filled borderline unplayable game. They did the same with Witcher 2 and Witcher 3.

This is revisionist history and dare I say, complete lie/fabrication

Witcher 2 and Witcher 3 were both perfectly playable at launch and reviewed well by both gamers and journalists right at launch. Were they flawless? No, but they were night and day compared to Cyberpunk on lastgen.

I played both the day they came out, they were fine.

That said, PC version of C77 was also good enough when it comes to stability and bugs, there the problem was more with AI and some missing features.

 

[Loomy]

Dude, where are you taking this data from? MSRP on Steam for most of the regions was $60 or lower. The only region close to $80 is Switzerland at $78.86. The second highest is Costa Rica at $68.46.
And it's constantly on -50% sale.

Wrong again.

https://steamdb.info/app/1091500/

https://isthereanydeal.com/game/cyberpunk-2077/history/

But no worries. If you want to inflate a price to show a product is more lucrative (ludicrous, also given the work to salvage it after the first weeks and such), i simply will ignore you (already has)

CAD. I should have specified CAD since that's my region. And I chose $60 CAD as an average between full price and half price. Seems like a sensible approximation to make here. That's why averages exist after all.

 

[Wolves hunt in packs]

PS didn’t outsell Xbox by much and now consider what that tiny sliver of that 20% bought a ps5 pro. Only way this is getting a pro patch is if Sony pays like Apple very likely did. I hope they do though because this game would be by far the best benchmark for how hard they could push RT on a console.

wow PC is a beast, i would have guessed PS5 at least 40%-50%.
edit: is there this kind of info about the base game?

 

[apocaliptic]

As a huge fan of all three Witcher games I bought it and still haven't played.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Deserved. Its my number 1 game of all time.

 

[SEGAvangelist]

wow PC is a beast, i would have guessed PS5 at least 40%-50%.
edit: is there this kind of info about the base game?

PS5 Pro release would help boost those numbers for sure.

 

[Dodo123]

Some NeoGAF users taught me that the only way for them to turn this game into a success is by releasing a PS5 Pro patch. Without this move, they are basically doomed. (THEY HAVE TO DO THIS, THEY OWE IT TO US, THESE LAZY M*******S)

 

[Gaiff]

wow PC is a beast, i would have guessed PS5 at least 40%-50%.
edit: is there this kind of info about the base game?

The adjusted breakdown is as follows:

for 2020: PC – 56%, PlayStation 4 – 28%, Xbox One – 17%
for 2021: PC – 58%, PlayStation 4 – 20%, Xbox One – 22%

Source

Phantom Liberty isn't available for last-gen consoles, so the much higher PC % is due to that.

 

[ebevan91]

8 million copies sold for a DLC/expansion is really good.

 

[simpatico]

One of the very few current gen true classics.