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Digital Foundry Direct Special: The Best Game Graphics of the Year 2023
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Stuart360
Member
Trust me on this, dont go there. Just accept it and move on. Talking from experience here lol.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
No. 30fps mode runs like crap and still have no reflections and is extremely grainy and breakup is intense.
Patched a bit but not enough. It’s the only game I regret not getting on pc
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
I do but won't say anything. Just don't engage them seriously and have a laugh.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Ignored troll must be quoting me.
Now you need mod help.
Xbox didn't get mentioned.
It's about best graphics from a pcmr channel that automatically starts a VS war.
Acting like a pcmr snob but not actually being apart of it is impressive.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
AW2 looks fantastic on console, rofif is just mad about Forborin' not making the list.
These are all console shots. The art and asset quality is superb.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
It looks like trash as soon as you move or shadows move. And all forests are 28fps or at least were.AW2 looks fantastic on console, rofif is just mad about Forborin' not making the list.
These are all console shots. The art and asset quality is superb.
What’s so impressive anyway? It’s a static game. They could’ve baked it and it would look the same and be 4k60
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Senua
Gold Member
Interesting. I have a question for you gatekeeper! Seeing as I'm a supposed wanabe "PCMR", is the requirement 32gb ram? Not 64gb then? Did I just miss the cut off with 16gb? My RTX 3080 and 5800X3D get me some of the way there right? They aren't quite PS5 level but it's still a PC technically just not MR, like a Honda NSX.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
AW2 looks fantastic on console, rofif is just mad about Forborin' not making the list.
These are all console shots. The art and asset quality is superb.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No it wouldn't. TLOU Part I is baked with no RT on PS5 and runs at about 35fps unlocked and can dip below 30.
Baking everything would have also probably taken quite a bit longer and Remedy is a smaller team than ND.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
tlou also looks better and you are right. it runs 35+ fps AT NATIVE 4K mode.
AW2 runs at fsr2 ultra performance mode, looks like hell and doesn't dip below 30. All Saga forests sections are below 30.
I am fine with it being LOW RES. that's ok. But they have some sorting done wrong. It's like some effects dont get TAA treatment in the correct order in chain.
When you look at a fence and move the camera around, it all breaks down more so than in other fsr games.
And everything has this dirty, grainy look. Because they apply reflections/ssr to most surfaces... and their ssr technique on consoles is the worst thing ever.
Look at demons souls or tlou2 even on ps4. Clean image quality. Consistent all the way through.
Maybe baking would take long time and have some drawbacks sure. But there are many things they could've done on consoles. not just this
Mister Wolf
Member
And this isn't even taking into consideration the higher detailed assets in AW2 over TLOU Remake. Tekken 8 isn't even 4K 60 on the consoles and he thinks AW2 would be haha.
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Mister Wolf
Member
tlou also looks better and you are right. it runs 35+ fps AT NATIVE 4K mode.
AW2 runs at fsr2 ultra performance mode, looks like hell and doesn't dip below 30. All Saga forests sections are below 30.
I am fine with it being LOW RES. that's ok. But they have some sorting done wrong. It's like some effects dont get TAA treatment in the correct order in chain.
When you look at a fence and move the camera around, it all breaks down more so than in other fsr games.
And everything has this dirty, grainy look. Because they apply reflections/ssr to most surfaces... and their ssr technique on consoles is the worst thing ever.
Look at demons souls or tlou2 even on ps4. Clean image quality. Consistent all the way through.
Maybe baking would take long time and have some drawbacks sure. But there are many things they could've done on consoles. not just this
You get what you pay for. No different than the shit tier image quality and inconsistent framerate I have to put up with playing FF16. What did you expect for $500?
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Senua
Gold Member
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Dacvak
No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
Nothin twists GAF’s panties up more than a subjective vid from DF. Was gonna offer my two cents, but I think it’s better if I just go make some popcorn. 
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Honestly, those are just selective bad shots, you can take a picture mid severe motion in any game and it will look bad.
The game looks fantastic, and it's number two spot is well justified.
Played it on Series X and i wasn't impressed. A lot of aliasing, at least on performance, image is not as clean as this.AW2 looks fantastic on console, rofif is just mad about Forborin' not making the list.
These are all console shots. The art and asset quality is superb.
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
you couldn't be more wrong.
FF16 has perfect 30fps mode, is higher res and got no breakup like that.
It's all up to developer how they choose to not optimize. They clearly just used low pc settings and slapped it on a console. Many other devs achieved higher resolutions, fps and image quality like postcards.
Look at ff16. Shit looks like CGI. The soft lighting and shadwing is unmatched. And gameplay looks just as good (and like ff14 in other spots but no comment)
this is in gameplay model. just used photo mode for a better angle/closer
I mean look at this!
And I am doing a disservice posting HDR converted to SDR screenshots.
FF16 looks incredible live on oled with HDR
WAY better. On the same fucking ps5 at that.... and running at stable 30 or unlocked or 90fps mode. Not a single jaggy or shimmering spot to be found. Like a postcard.
The breakup and dots from shimmering ssr grain are there regardless.
Motion blur actually looks even better than without it... It's needed to survive 30fps mode anyway.
Senua
Gold Member
Genuinely looks a gen behind AW2 lmao.you couldn't be more wrong.
FF16 has perfect 30fps mode, is higher res and got no breakup like that.
It's all up to developer how they choose to not optimize. They clearly just used low pc settings and slapped it on a console. Many other devs achieved higher resolutions, fps and image quality like postcards.
Look at ff16. Shit looks like CGI. The soft lighting and shadwing is unmatched. And gameplay looks just as good (and like ff14 in other spots but no comment)
this is in gameplay model. just used photo mode for a better angle/closer
I mean look at this!
And I am doing a disservice posting HDR converted to SDR screenshots.
FF16 looks incredible live on oled with HDR
WAY better. On the same fucking ps5 at that.... and running at stable 30 or unlocked or 90fps mode. Not a single jaggy or shimmering spot to be found. Like a postcard.
The breakup and dots from shimmering ssr grain are there regardless.
Motion blur actually looks even better than without it... It's needed to survive 30fps mode anyway.
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
tlou also looks better and you are right. it runs 35+ fps AT NATIVE 4K mode.
AW2 runs at fsr2 ultra performance mode, looks like hell and doesn't dip below 30. All Saga forests sections are below 30.
I am fine with it being LOW RES. that's ok. But they have some sorting done wrong. It's like some effects dont get TAA treatment in the correct order in chain.
When you look at a fence and move the camera around, it all breaks down more so than in other fsr games.
And everything has this dirty, grainy look. Because they apply reflections/ssr to most surfaces... and their ssr technique on consoles is the worst thing ever.
Look at demons souls or tlou2 even on ps4. Clean image quality. Consistent all the way through.
Maybe baking would take long time and have some drawbacks sure. But there are many things they could've done on consoles. not just this
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
fucking wrong wrong wrong "lmao".
Senua
Gold Member
TxKnight7
Member
Spider man has a Ray tracing on ps5?all top 3 games have ray-tracing , lord battaglia has spoken , PC crushes consoles
Portugeezer
Member
Turk1993
GAFs #1 source for car graphic comparisons
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Dude forspoken is beautiful what are you smoking.
Posting pics because that hdr is stunning
And raw HDR-SDR captures. most are not photo mode. Just gameplay. forspoken adds the watermark always.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Insomniac was able to do ALL THAT for an open world game.Yes RT reflections
But Remedy was only able to disable all RT and put settings to Low for Alan Wake 2....
go figure.
Very nice shots. I need to pick this up !
Senua
Gold Member
Why are you always impressed by mediocrity, yet shit on actual impressive games.Dude forspoken is beautiful what are you smoking.
Posting pics because that hdr is stunning
And raw HDR-SDR captures. most are not photo mode. Just gameplay. forspoken adds the watermark always.
It's quite a talent
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
You clearly lack an eye for what's good looking.
There is no shame in that. One day you will grow up to notice that.
Senua
Gold Member
I look forward to the day I see PS4 rooted games more impressive than fully current gen experiences, it would save me a lot of money in hardware!
rsouzadk
Member
These ss genuinely looks like horse shit.Dude forspoken is beautiful what are you smoking.
Posting pics because that hdr is stunning
And raw HDR-SDR captures. most are not photo mode. Just gameplay. forspoken adds the watermark always.
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Mozzarella
Member
Avatar looks that good? i didnt play it but i doubt this.
Stuart360
Member
It doesnt look shit but i tried it on max settings and it looked like a last gen game to me (although many games this gen have so far to be fair), with sometimes terrible draw distances.
It doesnt deserve to be mentioned along side some of these games imo.
rofif will rofif though.
MadchesterManc
Member
Why are you always so salty bro. What did you want to win?
True there was great hair tech in Spiderman 2
Either my eyes are playing tricks on me or MJ looks like Bella Ramsey here
mansoor1980
Gold Member
Either my eyes are playing tricks on me or MJ looks like Bella Ramsey here
Zathalus
Member
The ability for the exact same posters to shit up every DF thread imaginable is quite impressive.
The list has both major PS5 exclusives for the year in it and they can still somehow cry about bias.
I'm quite confident DF can post a video of Alex giving Jim Ryan head and they would still complain about him not stroking the shaft enough.
The list has both major PS5 exclusives for the year in it and they can still somehow cry about bias.
I'm quite confident DF can post a video of Alex giving Jim Ryan head and they would still complain about him not stroking the shaft enough.
Senua
Gold Member
Either my eyes are playing tricks on me or MJ looks like Bella Ramsey here
ChiefDada
Gold Member
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
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JimboJones
Member
I'm starting to think he is getting paid, I'd respect him more of he did honestly.That why you're so salty? They get paid and Sony doesn't give you a penny for all your work?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Fake
Member
Indeed look. I find overly saturated in colors, but is a replica of the movie vision by far.
Zathalus
Member
It's the exact same shit every thread. Excuse me for being annoyed.