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Digital Foundry: Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PS5: Fidelity vs Performance Mode Comparison - Which Mode Works Best?
- Thread starter adamsapple
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
- Two visual modes, Performance and Fidelity. Both have RT. Look similar at a glance but clearly evident differences when examined.
- Performance mode lacks extra clarity of RT reflections and coverage of Quality (in some tested instances RT is swapped by cube maps)
- Variety of metallic surfaces lack RT reflections in Performance mode during game play.
- Car windows get low resolution cube maps in Performance. In Fidelity mode, these are reflected with RT.
- RT is retained in windows, glossay and water surfaces in Performance mode, however.
- DF's basic impression / conclusion: Perf. mode is perfectly reasonable but drops many transparency reflections.
- Foliage is less denser, grass LoD is lower and civilian densnity is lowered in Performance mode.
- Shadow quality and character hair strand also lowered in Performance mode.
- Spider Man 2's Performance mode RT is resolving better and higher detail compared to Spider Man 1's Performance RT
- In general settings split is similar to Spider Man 1's Performance RT vs Quality mode though SM2 takes more of a hit by comparison.
- Performance mode: 1008p to1440p using Temporal injection
- Fidelity mode: 1440p to 2160p reconstructed to 4K using TI.
- Fidelity mode has a clear edge, particularly obvious in long range details.
-120h Modifier:
- Fidelity w/ 40hz mode drops typical resolution to 1440p
- VRR unlocked can drop resolutions further since it runs unlocked.
- Performance mode can drop to 900p
- Performance mode: Mostly maintains and hits 60 FPS with some drops in alpha heavy areas.
- Traversal related single drops also seen.
- Fidelity mode is 30 FPS with slight stutter at camera cuts and 1 off drops in traversal.
- Fidelity 40hz can drop more frames in stress moments of game play here.
- VRR Smooth caps the frame rate, VRR uncapped unlocks it.
- VRR unlocked Fidelity: 40 to 60 FPS
- VRR unlocked Performance: 60 to 80 FPS
- Fluctuations in frame rate can be noticeable like other VRR uncapped games
- DF conclusion:
- Visual difference between Performance and Quality is higher than Insomniac's previous games
- Oliver's personal preference is Performance mode
- 40hz Fidelity mode strikes a good middle ground with smoother performance while retaining higher visual fidelity.
- Performance mode lacks extra clarity of RT reflections and coverage of Quality (in some tested instances RT is swapped by cube maps)
- Variety of metallic surfaces lack RT reflections in Performance mode during game play.
- Car windows get low resolution cube maps in Performance. In Fidelity mode, these are reflected with RT.
- RT is retained in windows, glossay and water surfaces in Performance mode, however.
- DF's basic impression / conclusion: Perf. mode is perfectly reasonable but drops many transparency reflections.
- Foliage is less denser, grass LoD is lower and civilian densnity is lowered in Performance mode.
- Shadow quality and character hair strand also lowered in Performance mode.
- Spider Man 2's Performance mode RT is resolving better and higher detail compared to Spider Man 1's Performance RT
- In general settings split is similar to Spider Man 1's Performance RT vs Quality mode though SM2 takes more of a hit by comparison.
- Performance mode: 1008p to1440p using Temporal injection
- Fidelity mode: 1440p to 2160p reconstructed to 4K using TI.
- Fidelity mode has a clear edge, particularly obvious in long range details.
-120h Modifier:
- Fidelity w/ 40hz mode drops typical resolution to 1440p
- VRR unlocked can drop resolutions further since it runs unlocked.
- Performance mode can drop to 900p
- Performance mode: Mostly maintains and hits 60 FPS with some drops in alpha heavy areas.
- Traversal related single drops also seen.
- Fidelity mode is 30 FPS with slight stutter at camera cuts and 1 off drops in traversal.
- Fidelity 40hz can drop more frames in stress moments of game play here.
- VRR Smooth caps the frame rate, VRR uncapped unlocks it.
- VRR unlocked Fidelity: 40 to 60 FPS
- VRR unlocked Performance: 60 to 80 FPS
- Fluctuations in frame rate can be noticeable like other VRR uncapped games
- DF conclusion:
- Visual difference between Performance and Quality is higher than Insomniac's previous games
- Oliver's personal preference is Performance mode
- 40hz Fidelity mode strikes a good middle ground with smoother performance while retaining higher visual fidelity.
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Tal Shiar Agent
Member
This is where I am. I've become too accustomed to 60fps to use anything less, it made Starfield a real slog.
Ronin_7
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Not all heroes wear capes.
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Performance mode looks like shit. Don't need these too soft to criticize anything shills to tell me anything else.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
At least based on that video, there's tons of aliasing and flickering, especially on distant or fine objects such as wires and fences. Every time Oliver zooms in even mildly, the Performance Mode flickers like crazy. Fidelity Mode also does but to a much lesser extent. I hope it isn't noticeable at normal viewing distances.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Not noticing any of that playing on a 1080p monitor.
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It’s even more noticeable when playing. I’m on a 65” OLED and it’s night and day
Insane Metal
Member
900p.... damn
1008-1440p in Perf RT...
1008-1440p in Perf RT...
existensmaximum
Member
Fidelity looks and works amazing for me 
- amazingly smooth.
- amazingly smooth.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Fidelity 40hz for me when I get my copy.
Fake
Member
They should disable RT.
Insane Metal
Member
I keep saying... RT is useless in these machines. Why make such a big compromise to the IQ for that...
Fake
Member
And is very taxing. People deny, but if you have a crispy expensive 4k TV, when a game like that go way down to 900p, become easy to notice.
Even more when they start to push 8k for real.
Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I've been playing from the first minute in fidelity 120hz with VRR uncapped and it runs and looks great for my use case.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Gonna try the 40fps mode once I'm done with Mario.
Senua
Gold Member
Buzzwords, good PR. Gets people HYPED. But yes I agree..save RT for the next gen consoles which should have proper RT cores
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
Gonna try 40 but I always prefer performance. Well, ever since we have the option.
Bullshit. I love Insomaniac's RT in 60 fps. Good choice to use it instead of another crappy cube maps or screen space reflections. And the game still looks great.
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Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Its great for buildings and I wouldn't want them to get rid of it.
Add another Performance Mode where RT is disabled in favor of higher LOD and object density, sure, but I still want Performance RT.
Physiognomonics
Member
What's lacking here is the usual resolution in both 30fps and 60fps modes. Why not saying anything about it? For the 40fps mode they have no problem saying the resolution is often at 1440p, what about the others modes? Why they don't want to say resolution is usually at the highest range?
They do say the resolution usually drops when GPU bound by alphas, which I had suspected.
They do say the resolution usually drops when GPU bound by alphas, which I had suspected.
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Why? The consoles implementation of RT is no worse than Nvidia's first attempt.
hinch7
Member
This is the way.
I'm using uncapped VRR on a 1440P screen (only HDMI 2.0) and it looks and plays fantastically well.
Senua
Gold Member
Exactly. It's shite. Next gen will probably be ready for proper raytracing, I think this gen should stick to maximizing rasterization. Look how incredible Forbidden West looks.
Ev1L AuRoN
Member
I'm quite happy with PERFORMANCE mode, in these comparisons yeah you can clearly see the difference but playing I struggle to notice any difference playing on a 65'' TV at a reasonable distance. 40fps the great for purists, but IMHO smoothness beats everything.
Imtjnotu
Member
I left mine capped. Running it on a C2.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
lol performance mode is the default mode tho.
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No it isn’t. Default is fidelity, you gotta switch over to performance
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
My bad, I have my game presets changed to performance in system settings.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
I cannot go back to Spider-man without ray-traced reflections. It just looks wrong when you have all these reflective surfaces sometimes in quite confined (relatively speaking) areas and what you see reflected in them is just plainly incorrect: like a road when behind you there is a building (cube maps for reflections have their limits). It is incredibly immersion breaking once you see what RT reflections bring.
The quality of the visuals, resolution, and framerate in the 40 FPS RT mode are just *chef kiss*
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Fidelity mode for me when I get the game (hopefully tonight).
ByWatterson
Member
Fidelity for me. Not a close call.
saintjules
Gold Member
Pretty divisive here. I was preferring 60fps initially, but after playing and my eyes adjusting to 40fps, it seems that will be how I play the game. Fidelity mode capped.
Revolutionary
Member
Played around with both settings a few days ago and I settled on Fidelity, mainly because the shadows in Performance aren't up to snuff (generally lower quality or outright missing).
Also noticed some missing ray traced reflections in Performance but that was less of a factor into why I chose Fidelity.
Also noticed some missing ray traced reflections in Performance but that was less of a factor into why I chose Fidelity.
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MasterCornholio
Member
I'm going to spend some time flipping between these modes. Doesn't seem like it will be an easy choice for me.
hinch7
Member
Nice. I prefer the extra frames but for a more consistant experience locked 40fps is probably the way to go for max fidelity and good responsive controls.
DanielG165
Member
I wanna squeeze every last ounce of performance out of the PS5, but after playing SM1 on PC at 60fps, I can’t go back to 30fps with a game like this, and I don’t have a VRR capable TV. Performance mode it is for now.