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[phant0m]

Fuck the ray tracing. I'd much rather have a higher base resolution/sharper image quality and solid 60fps. I prefer the Division 2 graphically because of this. Step backwards for me. £120 for an ultimate version at 720p with an unstable frame rate. Dream on Ubi.

Most RT implementations are such a scam. 20 fps hit for visuals you can't tell the difference without side-by-side stills

Sad this gen still can't muster native 1440p rendering at 60fps for most games.

 

[bundylove]

- Current gen only. Runs on Snowdrop Engine, same engine used for Avatar.
- Choice of 3 modes. 30hz, 40hz, 60hz Performance mode. Only on Series X and PS5
- Series S version has singular performance mode.

- Many parallels with Avatar in terms of tech.
- RT deployed on all consoles.
- RTGI and RT reflections with SSR as backup (enemies only reflected via SSR)
- Distant shadows also ray traced.

- Difficult to ignore some rough spots, however.
- AI, enemy path finding, cut-scene animation etc betray a visually strong package.

- A cinematic 21 : 9 cinematic option also present, and it runs as default.
- DF says this mode only removes top and bottom halves and adds black bars.
- The 16 : 9 mode surprisingly runs with less drops on PS5 when compared to 21 : 9
- Many areas show no virtual difference.
- DF stuck with the full-screen 16 : 9 mode for testing.

- Graphics:
- 60 fps Performance: DRS 720p to 1080p
- 40 fps Quality: DRS 936p to 1252p
- 30 fps Quality: 1134p to 1620p
- Above metrics are broadly same for PS5 and SX. They match visual features as well.
- Series S offers a single 1080p mode.
-FSR is used to reconstruct game to 4K or 1440p (Performance)
- Stair step and fine grass elements still resolve as pixelated noise in areas
- Grass density, foliage distance and reflection clarity is the only major difference in Quality and Performance.
- Series S runs at Performance mode equivalent settings to SX and PS5
- Series S includes all the same RT features with the lighting calculation distance being the only difference. (i-e it resolves farther on PS5/SX)

- Performance:
- All cutscenes are locked at 30 FPS on all modes.

- 30 FPS Quality mode generally runs locked with only one or two single frame drops
- SX uses adaptive V-sync while PS5 is V-Synced, however any tearing on Xbox is largely invisible

- 40 FPS Quality mode is DF's preferred option even with a small hit on image quality
- The game runs at a stable 40 fps on PS5/SX with only minor single drops in DF's testing

- 60 FPS mode doesn't get to a tight 60 FPS lock despite resolution drop
- Broadly matched FPS settings with Xbox deploying adaptive Sync and PS5 using V-sync
- Xbox's 120hz and broader VRR range reduce judder compared to PS5 where any drop below 48hz will manifest as juddering.

- Series S:
- Locked to 30 FPS 99% of the time with single drops.
- Streaming hitches are more glaring on Series S compared to PS5/SX
- DF thinks the absence of a 40 fps mode is a shame, as Avatar supported 40 fps on Series S

Greatly appreciate you sir/madame.

One of the most level headed person on this forum as well.

Keep it up.

 

[kevboard]

you can not tell me that this game doesn't look like it was designed by committee that had a checklist for generic AAA Open World mechanics...

 

[bundylove]

It warms my heart to see additional games with a 40FPS option, 30FPS needs to be TRASHED.

Agreed.

And the reason? Not a lot of people have 120hz tv's.

Most dont even know the benefits of it.
40fps is a such a sweet spot for me its a night and day difference from 30.

And thats the sad part. You need a good tv to get the most out of these machines.

 

[Zathalus]

Greatly appreciate you sir/madame.

One of the most level headed person on this forum as well.

Keep it up.

I believe adamsapple pronouns are X/Box.

 

[adamsapple]

I believe adamsapple pronouns are X/Box.

X / Box
and Game / Pass

 

[XXL]

I get that.

But it's different developers and engine .. even the male characters in Outlaws look like mannequins.

Regardless, they did her dirty.

 

[bundylove]

I believe adamsapple pronouns are X/Box.

Hence my respect for he/she/it/they/mine/yours etc lol.

He is a respectable fanboy.

You know , one with class.

 

[adamsapple]

Hence my respect for he/she/it/they/mine/yours etc lol.

He is a respectable fanboy.

You know , one with class.

Full disclosure, you are not an alt account of mine before anyone says that

 

[Bitstream]

Full disclosure, you are not an alt account of mine before anyone says that

well, now I definitely think it's an alt account.

 

[jshackles]

Full disclosure, you are not an alt account of mine before anyone says that

If your avatar changes to this

We'll really start to get suspicious

 

[welshrat]

Really quite looking forward to this on ps5. Glad to see the 40hz mode is the best. Arrives Friday for me and I have been enjoying avatar on the pc so hopefully will give me some decent gaming.

 

[XXL]

Full disclosure, you are not an alt account of mine before anyone says that

Greatly appreciate you sir/madame.

One of the most level headed person on this forum as well.

Keep it up.

Hence my respect for he/she/it/they/mine/yours etc lol.

He is a respectable fanboy.

You know , one with class.

 

[bundylove]

Full disclosure, you are not an alt account of mine before anyone says that

Lol

Full disclosure, i was dormant the last few years but was always watching

I've seen the good the bad the ugly andthe beautiful members of the green rat gang.

Catlady was by far the worst. Rikhy was fun.
And you bring a lot of value.

Thats all. Nothing more.

 

[CuckooBananaNuts]

Its 100% on the lighting. If it was the ingame model's fault it would look hideous the whole time, which isnt the case

720p in performance mode is just OOF

Massive graphics team is very talented. Problem is the rest of the studio.

The lighting made her teeth crooked in high detail and gave her a butt chin, a different jawline, a crooked witch nose, and a horrendous haircut? Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or you?

 

[gerth666]

Hence my respect for he/she/it/they/mine/yours etc lol.

He is a respectable fanboy.

You know , one with class.

The people's fanboy if you will

 

[Hugare]

The lighting made her teeth crooked in high detail and gave her a butt chin, a different jawline, a crooked witch nose, and a horrendous haircut? Who are you trying to convince? Us? Or you?

Convince you? lol

Just saying that lighting can make stuff look wonderful or hideous, even in real life. Saw shots of the character model looking fine, more than fine even. And in others looking like Jabba.

Have they used different models? No.

So use your brain. Its the lighting.

 

[Mr Moose]

Lol

Full disclosure, i was dormant the last few years but was always watching

I've seen the good the bad the ugly andthe beautiful members of the green rat gang.

Catlady was by far the worst. Rikhy was fun.
And you bring a lot of value.

Thats all. Nothing more.

A dog person, huh?

 

[Physiognomonics]

To buy or not to buy?

To play now or wait for ps5 pro version?

If the game is properly patched on PS5 Pro it should shine as they are doing hardware RT with RDNA2 intersection units (contrary to most UE5 games nowadays)

 

[DragonNCM]

Snowdrop engine is a fucking miracle.....RT 30fps on series S.

 

[CuckooBananaNuts]

Convince you? lol

Just saying that lighting can make stuff look wonderful or hideous, even in real life. Saw shots of the character model looking fine, more than fine even. And in others looking like Jabba.

Have they used different models? No.

So use your brain. Its the lighting.

It is 100% not the lighting unless you lack eyes.

 

[shamoomoo]

It’s fine if you don’t want to hate on the game, I get it, but don’t try and gaslight everyone that has functioning eyeballs. The character model is objectively fugly. And it’s not mean to say so. The only people that should be offended by this are the unskilled ones that created and animated the model.

Maybe,but was the female lead supposed to be like her game model 1-to-1? Because the comparison shows the game model and the real life actress look similar just not alike.

 

[Barakov]

They did the model dirty lmao. She’s fucking UGLY! And the facial animation is andromeda level bad wtf?

Always enjoy Battaglia getting destroyed in the comments.

 

[DanielG165]

I would’ve completely done away with RT in performance mode for a higher resolution, honestly. We know the current gen consoles aren’t that great at RT, so having it baked in even in performance mode with a giant open world game just seems like a head scratcher.

 

[bundylove]

They did the model dirty lmao. She’s fucking UGLY! And the facial animation is andromeda level bad wtf?

Omg this guy.

I refuse to take advise on beauty standards from a dude that looks like a broke ass version of jojo . A dude that would call an ambulance at the sight of a pussy thinking its an open wound.

Sorry bukkake but this topic is out of your reach

 

[bundylove]

If your avatar changes to this

We'll really start to get suspicious

Take my wifes name out of your fucking mouth!!!! Or i will will smith your ass

 

[MadchesterManc]

It's actually a 16:7 or 16:6 instead since it just adds two black bars in the top and bottom part, but it doesn't add anything new on the left or right side.

Really weird that it has less average FPS this way

So it's not actually ultra wide? Damn

 

[RoboFu]

series X gets slightly higher frame rate advantage and series S isn't total shit!? did I go through a alt universe?

 

[CuckooBananaNuts]

So it's not actually ultra wide? Damn

Yeah. Quite dumb. There's no reason why any modern game shouldn't support ultrawide.

 

[Gaiff]

Yeah. Quite dumb. There's no reason why any modern game shouldn't support ultrawide.

The support is already hit and miss on PC because it’s not super common. On consoles, it’d be less than 1%.

 

[CuckooBananaNuts]

The support is already hit and miss on PC because it’s not super common. On consoles, it’d be less than 1%.

Yeah. It's frustrating. Consoles are an exception because they're mostly played on TVs.

 

[bundylove]

Yeah. Quite dumb. There's no reason why any modern game shouldn't support ultrawide.

I dont know man.

I am already pissed when i see 1/3 of my 85 inch tv covered in black bars when watching movies

I dont want my games to look like that either.

Full screen for me

 

[CuckooBananaNuts]

I dont know man.

I am already pissed when i see 1/3 of my 85 inch tv covered in black bars when watching movies

I dont want my games to look like that either.

Full screen for me

Yeah. That's also annoying. There should be full screen and black bar wide screen options for people that like both (for movies). But there aren't any black bars on games when ultrawide is properly supported.

 

[Arsic]

PS5 40 the way to go.

Can’t wait to make fun of this fugly ass bitch as I play.

Wild thing? No one knows the in game characters name lmao.

 

[Fbh]

Lol 720p, as if I needed another reason not to play this.
I guess at least there's a less terrible 40fps mode

 

[Wolves hunt in packs]

It has RT even in performance mode? what's the logic in that? have some nice lighting whatever and the rest in 720p-1080p? will wait like Jedi Survivor were it also had RT in performance mode and looked like crap before they patched it out.

 

[semiconscious]

Convince you? lol

Just saying that lighting can make stuff look wonderful or hideous, even in real life. Saw shots of the character model looking fine, more than fine even. And in others looking like Jabba.

Have they used different models? No.

So use your brain. Its the lighting.

that's pretty damn amazing. thanks!...

 

[adamsapple]

I dont know man.

I am already pissed when i see 1/3 of my 85 inch tv covered in black bars when watching movies

I dont want my games to look like that either.

Full screen for me

The worst thing is, it doesn't even afford you a wider field of view.

Death Stranding's Directors Cut has a similar ultra wide screen option, but that game actually changes the FoV to accommodate.

This is just useless.

 

[Wolves hunt in packs]

It seems that as a new user i can't yet edit my posts, just wanted to add that i wish for something like this added in the future: https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfo...performance-mode-we-should-have-had-at-launch

Removing RT also improves image quality in that native rendering resolutions increase, which also serve to diminish some of the tell-tale artefacts of FSR 2 upscaling. There's still some artifacting in motion and some substantial aliasing, so I don't mean to say that the game is perfectly smooth when playing. But around previous trouble spots - like around the legs of the player character while running - Jedi: Survivor resolves a better image.

Survivor was in kinda similar state at launch.. RT even it performnace mode which resulted in low res and lower then 60fps, hopefully it can be done in this as well.

 

[adamsapple]

Survivor was in kinda similar state at launch.. RT even it performnace mode which resulted in low res and lower then 60fps, hopefully it can be done in this as well.

Survivor was in a much worse state than this at launch. This game is close to 60 in the Performance mode most of the time.

Jedi's performance was much worse by comparison.

 

[DanielG165]

Can’t wait to make fun of this fugly ass bitch as I play.

That’s a little weird honestly.

 

[Arsic]

That’s a little weird honestly.

Right a whole thread to shitting on her is completely fine but laughing at her looking dumb while playing is where you want to draw the line? Ok.

 

[CuckooBananaNuts]

Right a whole thread to shitting on her is completely fine but laughing at her looking dumb while playing is where you want to draw the line? Ok.

It's fair game. They purposely uglified her when the actress they modeled for the character is a smoke show.

 

[balls of snow]

Survivor was in a much worse state than this at launch. This game is close to 60 in the Performance mode most of the time.

Jedi's performance was much worse by comparison.

No shit JS was fucking dire even in quality mode when I played at launch. It dropped to the teens during that one body of water in Kobah and again during an indoor brawl late in the game.

 

[peish]

They did the model dirty lmao. She’s fucking UGLY! And the facial animation is andromeda level bad wtf?

I always sus alex is gay and prefers male looks, so he likes them square jaws

 

[drizzledre1018]

720p in big 2024…what a time to be alive

 

[CLW]

Im to the point now that if a console game goes in on RT and does not give me the option to completely turn it off I will not buy.

I would rather have higher resolution and more fps

 

[March Climber]

adamsapple advice for next time around…When making a DF thread about a controversial game, make two threads at the same time, one about a random recent article on the controversy topic, and one about the graphics. That way you can hopefully attract the threadkiller bees to the right flowers.

 

[Balducci30]

I have played neither, but why do they praise this over Black Myth? That game seems to look far better from what I’ve seen

 

[N30RYU]

They did the model dirty lmao. She’s fucking UGLY! And the facial animation is andromeda level bad wtf?