Majormaxxx
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I am skeptical. Let's see your output the next 3 years.
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Disney is reportedly learning from their misses and will try to focus on quality over quantity.
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DeepEnigma
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Unknown Soldier
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Disney CEO Bob Iger says company's movies have been too focused on messaging
Disney CEO Bob Iger acknowledged his company's movies have been too focused on messaging rather than strong storytelling.
www.cnbc.com
Okay Bob you're saying a lot of shit let's see some ACTION
EverydayBeast
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A new alien? I’ll get my tickets now.
belmarduk
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A new Alien made by Disney. You might want to wait a while until you're sure you want those tickets.
Cyberpunkd
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1. Become a CEO of Disney
2. Create an environment where messaging and modern themes are given importance over storytelling
3. Hire people that share this vision
4. They make movies
5. Movies bomb
6. Make a pivot saying the company focused too much on messaging
It looks like Czapek wanted exactly this - not taking political stances but just doing the job, and found himself in opposition to all activist employees that were hired over the past 15 years of Iger as a CEO.
Also Iger never wanted to leave his job as a CEO.
2. Create an environment where messaging and modern themes are given importance over storytelling
3. Hire people that share this vision
4. They make movies
5. Movies bomb
6. Make a pivot saying the company focused too much on messaging
It looks like Czapek wanted exactly this - not taking political stances but just doing the job, and found himself in opposition to all activist employees that were hired over the past 15 years of Iger as a CEO.
Also Iger never wanted to leave his job as a CEO.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The classic bait & switch. Create the problem, allow it to fester and grow unabated, provide the "solution" of the problems you helped lay the groundwork and curate, all while blaming "the other guy" who wanted to fix them.
Politics 101, really.
Cyberpunkd
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I mean - I know I shouldn't be surprised, but the CNBC article makes both Czapek and Iger as rather childish figures that couldn't even communicate properly. Czapek was wondering if Iger's questions were passive-aggressive snaps and sarcasms or genuine ask for information. At the same time Iger with his "let's have a long walk" and not giving his support to Czapek is WTF moment, how is that leadership?
I know he probably realized very quickly he didn't really want to stop being the CEO, but just be honest with yourself and the guy and backtrack, they only thing hurt will be your ego.
JimmyRustler
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Disney has prolly not only chased away all the talent that is able to do good original content but is also polluted by woke people they can't just lay off.
Disney has prolly not only chased away all the talent that is able to do good original content but is also polluted by woke people they can't just lay off.
ManaByte
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Disney CEO Bob Iger says company's movies have been too focused on messaging
Disney CEO Bob Iger acknowledged his company's movies have been too focused on messaging rather than strong storytelling.
Okay Bob you're saying a lot of shit let's see some ACTION
They already fired Victoria Alonso from Marvel. She's the exec who was pushing to not use the X-Men name, and was responsible for the shit VFX because all VFX houses hated her.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
We shall see
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Sweet, now do KK next.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
I’m just glad that “wokeness” is now a concept that has entered the public consciousness and is seen as a pejorative, and is alienating audiences and costing companies real money.
Funny how some people would always try to tell you that wokeness was just a figment of your imagination and that you’re being a sensitive snowflake, or that “[thing you liked before we ruined it] has always been woke”. Kinda hard to keep pushing that lie when even Disney’s CEO admits it’s real and it’s losing them billions of dollars.
Funny how some people would always try to tell you that wokeness was just a figment of your imagination and that you’re being a sensitive snowflake, or that “[thing you liked before we ruined it] has always been woke”. Kinda hard to keep pushing that lie when even Disney’s CEO admits it’s real and it’s losing them billions of dollars.
Dural
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Susan Arnold was also removed from chairman of the board, so maybe they really are trying to move in a different direction as she was at the forefront of the Florida bill argument. The DEI director was also let go, though they did hire a replacement (I was hoping they would just leave the job vacant). It's really a wait and see at this point, maybe they will focus on story rather than ideology, but it's going to take a lot of time to really know with everything that was already in the pipeline.
Fake
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Most of the people that deny 'woke' are woke themselves. Look at Spider-Man 2 game. This is like the game putting woke infront of you 100% of the time and people 'nah'.
I can't see much difference between woke deniers and round earth deniers. They both need a shock of reality after denying biology and science.
BlackSandrock10
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Now, where have he heard this before......given the current record with Disney and everything that's happened, seeing is believing!
RoboFu
One of the green rats
I cant imagine how much tom and tim are getting paid to come back. 4 was supposed ot be their big going out.
frozen is a risk. 2 wasn't nearly as good or well recieved as 1.
But beyond all of that there. Being able to fire all the crazies without getting sued is going to take a long time. I really do not see how its going to happen quick enough. I mean even if it isn't her fault just having Kathleen Kennedy still around is going to automatically push people away. Her connection t starwars and raiders failures is dogmatic now.
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Kraz
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The word is so vague most people wouldn't even know what to deny if someone only used the word woke to describe something.
It's become like marklar.
Vyse
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TaylorSwiftFan
Member
You are absolutely right. He must really think that people are dumb to not see what he’s trying to do. Let’s not forget that while he was not the CEO of Disney anymore, he was still on the board and still kept his office at the HQ.
SkylineRKR
Member
Drop the multiverse, and the phases. Its been done, and it peaked at Endgame. If anything the series on D+ made it even worse.
Try to create stand alone stories again. Perhaps smaller scope.
MCU right now is a dead horse. I doubt it will recover. Its been in decline for quite a while now and The Marvels is an absolute case of viewers voting with their wallet. And its a case of woke losing ground. Pick this side, and you will feel it. It will always be a vocal minority.
Ant Man 3 should've bombed like this too, terrible movie.
Try to create stand alone stories again. Perhaps smaller scope.
MCU right now is a dead horse. I doubt it will recover. Its been in decline for quite a while now and The Marvels is an absolute case of viewers voting with their wallet. And its a case of woke losing ground. Pick this side, and you will feel it. It will always be a vocal minority.
Ant Man 3 should've bombed like this too, terrible movie.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I personally regret not buying Netflix stock when its market cap dropped to 80b.
The thing with Disney is that they have run Star Wars into the ground and nobody cares about new Marvel heroes. Their last remaining card is X-Men and that's it.
Yeah, Frozen 2 came and went without any impact.
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DaleinCalgary
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All subscription service owners put out quantity over quality these days. Need to fill it up so it looks worth subscribing.
Yoda
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Even if it's true (Disney being honest lol) it'd take quite awhile before we saw a "pivot" in their content. On top of that, it isn't quantity that's the problem, it's the creatives they've cast into roles which should be a brutal meritocracy; so not being honest about whats wrong is another sign this is raw bullshit. As long as people like Kathleen Kennedy can't be fired over obvious consistent failures (RoS, Indiana Jones, etc...) than these mandates are meaningless. Their output is the sum of all their senior creative executives, and the ones who gave us the current crop of shit all our still employed in their same roles.
DeafTourette
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‘Godzilla Minus One’ Roars to Life With Giant Global Box Office Haul
‘Godzilla Minus One’ delivered the best domestic debut for a non-English live-action film in over two decades.
collider.com
Never thought I'd see the day where a Japanese Godzilla movie, released widely in North America for the first time since Godzilla 2000, available only with subtitles and no English dub, would somehow find a way to beat the latest Disney Thanksgiving weekend animated family picture. If this isn't a damning indictment of how audiences are responding to Disney's recent output, I'm not sure what is. I don't think it helps matters that most people who bothered to see Wish during the first week said it sucked, which is why in it's second week it got stomped on by a giant monster's debut.
KrakenIPA
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Ulgh where is Napoleon im saw it last week im going again this week!‘Godzilla Minus One’ Roars to Life With Giant Global Box Office Haul
‘Godzilla Minus One’ delivered the best domestic debut for a non-English live-action film in over two decades.
Never thought I'd see the day where a Japanese Godzilla movie, released widely in North America for the first time since Godzilla 2000, available only with subtitles and no English dub, would somehow find a way to beat the latest Disney Thanksgiving weekend animated family picture. If this isn't a damning indictment of how audiences are responding to Disney's recent output, I'm not sure what is. I don't think it helps matters that most people who bothered to see Wish during the first week said it sucked, which is why in it's second week it got stomped on by a giant monster's debut.